The infection rate changes daily, Thailand has been second on the list for most of the duration of the outbreak. I wonder why. Keeping borders open to the Chinese will deter any other nations holidaying here but they don't seem too bothered about that.
I wonder how Thailand is treating the thousands that are stuck here and can't go back yet, do they get free visa extensions and accommodation?
Covid-19 News & Updates (Thailand and Southeast Asia only)
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Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
Re: China Coronavirus
Does this mean the relatively young Dr Li's demise took some 6 weeks? Seems a long time?A Chinese doctor who tried to issue the first warnings about the deadly coronavirus outbreak has died, the hospital treating him has said.
Li Wenliang contracted the virus while working at Wuhan Central Hospital.
He had sent out a warning to fellow medics on 30 December but police told him to stop "making false comments".
One factor that could force the Chinese infection/fatality figures up is that they are some of the heaviest tobacco smokers around especially the males.
Complexity is so simply overrated
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Health minister: Kick out 'Western' tourists not wearing face masks
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... s#cxrecs_s
Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul lashed out at "Western" tourists on Friday for not wearing face masks and suggested they be expelled from the country for putting others at risk during the coronavirus outbreak.
The outburst came as the kingdom faced steep losses over a drop in visitors from China, where the virus has killed more than 600 people and prompted sweeping travel restrictions.
Mr Anutin was distributing masks at the Siam skytrain station entrance and complained that "farang" tourists did not take them and acted as if they "don't care".
"These kinds of people, we should kick them out of Thailand," he told reporters, waving a handful of masks in the air.
Mr Anutin did not respond to additional requests for comment but posted an apology on his Facebook page for "losing it" after "some foreigners from Europe" were uncooperative in the mask campaign.
More than 10 million Chinese tourists visited Thailand last year but the industry projects about 2 million fewer arrivals in 2020 because of the coronavirus, making US, European and other markets more vital.
Debates over the efficacy of masks have bounced around the internet since the contagion first emerged in the Chinese city of Wuhan last month.
Since then it has spread to more than two dozen countries and infected tens of thousands, mostly within mainland China.
Health experts generally agree masks are useful if you have respiratory symptoms or are caring for patients.
But the World Health Organization's own Thailand office tweeted a graphic on Feb 4 stating masks are "not needed for general public who do not have respiratory symptoms".
The WHO has advised people to wash their hands regularly and avoid touching their face.
Tourism accounts for 18% of Thailand's gross domestic product and Chinese holidaymakers make up a quarter of total arrivals.
Thailand has detected 25 coronavirus cases and nine of those patients have recovered, while streets, public transport and shopping centres have filled with people wearing face masks.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... s#cxrecs_s
Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul lashed out at "Western" tourists on Friday for not wearing face masks and suggested they be expelled from the country for putting others at risk during the coronavirus outbreak.
The outburst came as the kingdom faced steep losses over a drop in visitors from China, where the virus has killed more than 600 people and prompted sweeping travel restrictions.
Mr Anutin was distributing masks at the Siam skytrain station entrance and complained that "farang" tourists did not take them and acted as if they "don't care".
"These kinds of people, we should kick them out of Thailand," he told reporters, waving a handful of masks in the air.
Mr Anutin did not respond to additional requests for comment but posted an apology on his Facebook page for "losing it" after "some foreigners from Europe" were uncooperative in the mask campaign.
More than 10 million Chinese tourists visited Thailand last year but the industry projects about 2 million fewer arrivals in 2020 because of the coronavirus, making US, European and other markets more vital.
Debates over the efficacy of masks have bounced around the internet since the contagion first emerged in the Chinese city of Wuhan last month.
Since then it has spread to more than two dozen countries and infected tens of thousands, mostly within mainland China.
Health experts generally agree masks are useful if you have respiratory symptoms or are caring for patients.
But the World Health Organization's own Thailand office tweeted a graphic on Feb 4 stating masks are "not needed for general public who do not have respiratory symptoms".
The WHO has advised people to wash their hands regularly and avoid touching their face.
Tourism accounts for 18% of Thailand's gross domestic product and Chinese holidaymakers make up a quarter of total arrivals.
Thailand has detected 25 coronavirus cases and nine of those patients have recovered, while streets, public transport and shopping centres have filled with people wearing face masks.
May you be in heaven half an hour before the devil know`s you`re dead!
Coronavirus effects shut world's biggest car factory
Coronavirus effects shut world's biggest car factory
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/18527 ... ar-factory
SEOUL: The most productive car factory in the world fell quiet on Friday as South Korea's Hyundai suspended operations at its giant Ulsan complex, hamstrung by a lack of parts with the coronavirus outbreak crippling China's industrial output.
The five-plant network can make 1.4 million vehicles annually, in a coastal location facilitating importing components and exporting cars globally.
But supply lines are crucial in an ever more interconnected worldwide economy and the coronavirus outbreak in China has seen Beijing order factories closed in several areas as it seeks to contain the epidemic.
As a result, Hyundai -- which with its affiliate Kia ranks as the world's fifth-largest auto manufacturer -- has run out of the wiring harnesses that connect vehicles' complex electronics.
It is having to suspend production at its factories across South Korea, putting 25,000 workers on forced leave and partial wages, healthy victims of the disease outbreak across the Yellow Sea.
"It's a shame that I can't come to work and have to accept a pay cut," said an Ulsan production line staffer surnamed Park. "It's a very uncomfortable feeling."
The closures could be the first example of a phenomenon that rolls out around the world, analysts say.
The impact on Hyundai will be eye-watering, with analysts estimating a five-day South Korean shutdown to cost the firm at least six hundred billion won (US$500 million).
Hyundai is not the only corporate casualty: Kia will suspend three plants for a day on Monday, the South Korean unit of French automaker Renault is considering stopping its factory in Busan next week, and Fiat Chrysler CEO Mike Manley told the FT his firm could be forced to halt one of its European factories.
Analysts warn of broader troubles if Beijing extends the Lunar New Year holiday further as the coronavirus -- which according to official figures has infected more than 31,000 people in China and killed 636 -- continues to spread.
"The biggest problem is that we don't know how the outbreak in China will unfold," said Cheong In-kyo, an economics professor at Korea's Inha University.
"South Korean companies rely heavily on China for parts and components. The problem is even if just one part is missing, you can't do anything."
The disruption was only just beginning, he added, and warned it would spread beyond the auto sector.
"There is not a single category that is not manufactured in China."
- 'Everyone is impacted' -
The People's Republic is the world's biggest exporter of goods, with the US by far its largest trading partner.
Exports to the US from China and Hong Kong combined -- many goods are shipped via the financial hub -- totalled more than $450 billion last year, followed by Japan with more than $150 billion. South Korea and Vietnam also both imported goods worth more than $100 billion from the pair.
"China has become an integral part of the global manufacturing supply chain, accounting for about one-fifth of global manufacturing output," said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics.
Its neighbours will be hit by supply chain effects first, he said, naming Taiwan and Vietnam, followed by Malaysia and Korea.
The effects in the US would be delayed by the length of the supply lines, said Kristin Dziczek of the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, Michigan, but there would be secondary impacts on parts from other overseas markets built with Chinese items.
Automakers and suppliers were "evaluating and planning how to navigate the disruptions", she said. "But there is no capacity the size of China sitting idle waiting to fill in the gaps and it's difficult to move quickly in this environment when everyone is impacted."
- 'So dependent' -
The global car industry was plunged into turmoil when a single Renesas Electronics factory in Japan -- making a vital and widely-used microcontroller -- was put out of action by the 2011 Fukushima earthquake.
Supply lines have since become much more diversified, analysts say.
"Car manufacturers have a system of multiple sourcing because the risk would be too big to have only one supplier in one place for a particular part," said Ferdinand Dudenhoeffer, director of Germany's Center Automotive Research.
It was standard for parts to be provided by "at least two different suppliers", he said, adding that as part providers tended to be in the same region as the vehicle assembly line, "the car industry in Europe or America is much less exposed to a Chinese risk than Asian countries like Korea or India".
But sourcing wiring harnesses from three different companies failed to protect Hyundai's South Korean plants.
"We should have more diversified suppliers," said production worker Park. "It's a shame that there is nothing we can do at this point because we are so reliant on one country."
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/18527 ... ar-factory
SEOUL: The most productive car factory in the world fell quiet on Friday as South Korea's Hyundai suspended operations at its giant Ulsan complex, hamstrung by a lack of parts with the coronavirus outbreak crippling China's industrial output.
The five-plant network can make 1.4 million vehicles annually, in a coastal location facilitating importing components and exporting cars globally.
But supply lines are crucial in an ever more interconnected worldwide economy and the coronavirus outbreak in China has seen Beijing order factories closed in several areas as it seeks to contain the epidemic.
As a result, Hyundai -- which with its affiliate Kia ranks as the world's fifth-largest auto manufacturer -- has run out of the wiring harnesses that connect vehicles' complex electronics.
It is having to suspend production at its factories across South Korea, putting 25,000 workers on forced leave and partial wages, healthy victims of the disease outbreak across the Yellow Sea.
"It's a shame that I can't come to work and have to accept a pay cut," said an Ulsan production line staffer surnamed Park. "It's a very uncomfortable feeling."
The closures could be the first example of a phenomenon that rolls out around the world, analysts say.
The impact on Hyundai will be eye-watering, with analysts estimating a five-day South Korean shutdown to cost the firm at least six hundred billion won (US$500 million).
Hyundai is not the only corporate casualty: Kia will suspend three plants for a day on Monday, the South Korean unit of French automaker Renault is considering stopping its factory in Busan next week, and Fiat Chrysler CEO Mike Manley told the FT his firm could be forced to halt one of its European factories.
Analysts warn of broader troubles if Beijing extends the Lunar New Year holiday further as the coronavirus -- which according to official figures has infected more than 31,000 people in China and killed 636 -- continues to spread.
"The biggest problem is that we don't know how the outbreak in China will unfold," said Cheong In-kyo, an economics professor at Korea's Inha University.
"South Korean companies rely heavily on China for parts and components. The problem is even if just one part is missing, you can't do anything."
The disruption was only just beginning, he added, and warned it would spread beyond the auto sector.
"There is not a single category that is not manufactured in China."
- 'Everyone is impacted' -
The People's Republic is the world's biggest exporter of goods, with the US by far its largest trading partner.
Exports to the US from China and Hong Kong combined -- many goods are shipped via the financial hub -- totalled more than $450 billion last year, followed by Japan with more than $150 billion. South Korea and Vietnam also both imported goods worth more than $100 billion from the pair.
"China has become an integral part of the global manufacturing supply chain, accounting for about one-fifth of global manufacturing output," said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics.
Its neighbours will be hit by supply chain effects first, he said, naming Taiwan and Vietnam, followed by Malaysia and Korea.
The effects in the US would be delayed by the length of the supply lines, said Kristin Dziczek of the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, Michigan, but there would be secondary impacts on parts from other overseas markets built with Chinese items.
Automakers and suppliers were "evaluating and planning how to navigate the disruptions", she said. "But there is no capacity the size of China sitting idle waiting to fill in the gaps and it's difficult to move quickly in this environment when everyone is impacted."
- 'So dependent' -
The global car industry was plunged into turmoil when a single Renesas Electronics factory in Japan -- making a vital and widely-used microcontroller -- was put out of action by the 2011 Fukushima earthquake.
Supply lines have since become much more diversified, analysts say.
"Car manufacturers have a system of multiple sourcing because the risk would be too big to have only one supplier in one place for a particular part," said Ferdinand Dudenhoeffer, director of Germany's Center Automotive Research.
It was standard for parts to be provided by "at least two different suppliers", he said, adding that as part providers tended to be in the same region as the vehicle assembly line, "the car industry in Europe or America is much less exposed to a Chinese risk than Asian countries like Korea or India".
But sourcing wiring harnesses from three different companies failed to protect Hyundai's South Korean plants.
"We should have more diversified suppliers," said production worker Park. "It's a shame that there is nothing we can do at this point because we are so reliant on one country."
May you be in heaven half an hour before the devil know`s you`re dead!
Government masks sold out in half an hour
Government masks sold out in half an hour
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... lf-an-hour
Thousands of protective masks sold by the government have been snapped up in half an hour while a party turned to crowdsourcing to create a map of shops that stock the product as Thailand struggles to get everyone protected amid the coronavirus outbreak.
The government sold 10,000 pieces on Friday morning and will sell another 10,000 in the afternoon.
Government spokeswomen Nurumon Pinyosinwat, together with secretary-general Teerapat Prayoonsit and Government House officials, on Friday sold the masks supplied by the Commerce Ministry and hand wash gel made by the Government Pharmaceutical Organization near the Government house.
The masks were sold at 25 baht per 10-piece set, limited to one set for each buyer.
Also sold at the event was hand wash gel, at 65 baht for a large bottle and 24 baht for a small one. Rubbing alcohol was also available at 14 baht a bottle.
The products were sold at two spots at 10,000 piece each at 10am and 2pm.
Netizens have complained masks have become hard to find after the double whammy of the PM2.5 dust crisis and coronavirus outbreak.
Commerce Minister Jurin Lasanavisit said there were enough masks for sale after a visit to mask factories. The product was later put on the price control list.
Responding to criticism the government did not give free masks even to the needy, Mr Teerapat said doing so would lead to hoarding.
"We want to address the problems of people not being able to buy masks and the high prices."
He assured the manufacturers were speeding up production.
Meanwhile, an opposition party has taken a different approach in addressing the problem.
Future Forward Party leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit posted on Facebook on Wednesday urging people to collaborate in creating the "people's map" on the availability of masks and hand wash gel.
"Khun Klaikong Vaidhyakarn [FFP party-list MP] and I came up with the idea to mobilise efforts in creating the map that shows which shops have or do not have masks for PM2.5 and for coronavirus, as well as hand wash gel, so others can check and go to the places nearest to them that stock the products," he wrote.
He urged people to check the availability and prices of the products at drugstores or other shops in their neighbourhoods. They can then fill a form online prepared by the party so its team could process the data and create the map as soon as possible.
"Please also add conditions, if there are any, such as sales limited to three pieces per person and at what prices," he wrote.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... lf-an-hour
Thousands of protective masks sold by the government have been snapped up in half an hour while a party turned to crowdsourcing to create a map of shops that stock the product as Thailand struggles to get everyone protected amid the coronavirus outbreak.
The government sold 10,000 pieces on Friday morning and will sell another 10,000 in the afternoon.
Government spokeswomen Nurumon Pinyosinwat, together with secretary-general Teerapat Prayoonsit and Government House officials, on Friday sold the masks supplied by the Commerce Ministry and hand wash gel made by the Government Pharmaceutical Organization near the Government house.
The masks were sold at 25 baht per 10-piece set, limited to one set for each buyer.
Also sold at the event was hand wash gel, at 65 baht for a large bottle and 24 baht for a small one. Rubbing alcohol was also available at 14 baht a bottle.
The products were sold at two spots at 10,000 piece each at 10am and 2pm.
Netizens have complained masks have become hard to find after the double whammy of the PM2.5 dust crisis and coronavirus outbreak.
Commerce Minister Jurin Lasanavisit said there were enough masks for sale after a visit to mask factories. The product was later put on the price control list.
Responding to criticism the government did not give free masks even to the needy, Mr Teerapat said doing so would lead to hoarding.
"We want to address the problems of people not being able to buy masks and the high prices."
He assured the manufacturers were speeding up production.
Meanwhile, an opposition party has taken a different approach in addressing the problem.
Future Forward Party leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit posted on Facebook on Wednesday urging people to collaborate in creating the "people's map" on the availability of masks and hand wash gel.
"Khun Klaikong Vaidhyakarn [FFP party-list MP] and I came up with the idea to mobilise efforts in creating the map that shows which shops have or do not have masks for PM2.5 and for coronavirus, as well as hand wash gel, so others can check and go to the places nearest to them that stock the products," he wrote.
He urged people to check the availability and prices of the products at drugstores or other shops in their neighbourhoods. They can then fill a form online prepared by the party so its team could process the data and create the map as soon as possible.
"Please also add conditions, if there are any, such as sales limited to three pieces per person and at what prices," he wrote.
May you be in heaven half an hour before the devil know`s you`re dead!
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Live Updates at https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ctor-japan
All seems a tad strange with regards to the doctor - lots of "stories"/fake news going to come of this....
All seems a tad strange with regards to the doctor - lots of "stories"/fake news going to come of this....
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Re: China Coronavirus
What an absolute plonker this guy is. Foreign tourists possibly refused these paper masks as they are aware that they are useless unless you are protecting others from a respiratory ailment yourself.Mr Anutin was distributing masks at the Siam skytrain station entrance and complained that "farang" tourists did not take them and acted as if they "don't care".
"These kinds of people, we should kick them out of Thailand," he told reporters, waving a handful of masks in the air.
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No need to worry mr Anutin no farangs to kick out soon all going somewhere else.
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Re: Coronavirus effects shut world's biggest car factory
Perhaps this will spur governments (especially the British one) to encourage the domestic production of engineering components, by tax rebates and/or tariffs on imported items.
Globalisation only seems to favour manufacturing in countries with a plentiful supply of cheap labour, at the expense of the workers in their home countries
Globalisation only seems to favour manufacturing in countries with a plentiful supply of cheap labour, at the expense of the workers in their home countries
Re: Coronavirus effects shut world's biggest car factory
Don't worry, the UK will soon be full of cheap labour and sweat shops 
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Re: Coronavirus effects shut world's biggest car factory
Been full of cheap labour and sweat shops for the last 15 years.
Re: China Coronavirus
Could be that they knew where the masks were made, so can't blame them for not wearingHHTel wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:11 pmWhat an absolute plonker this guy is. Foreign tourists possibly refused these paper masks as they are aware that they are useless unless you are protecting others from a respiratory ailment yourself.Mr Anutin was distributing masks at the Siam skytrain station entrance and complained that "farang" tourists did not take them and acted as if they "don't care".
"These kinds of people, we should kick them out of Thailand," he told reporters, waving a handful of masks in the air.
Re: China Coronavirus
I'm sure you're joking. The fact is that these masks don't give any protection to the wearer. They're designed to protect other people from any virus from the wearer. WHO in Thailand only recently stated that the general public do not need masks unless they themselves are suffering from an respiratory problem. Also, these 'surgical masks' are single use and should be disposed of after use.
Hysteria breeds more hysteria!
Hysteria breeds more hysteria!
Re: Coronavirus effects shut world's biggest car factory
Collateral damage. Happens with most crises.
Re: China Coronavirus
Start of another day in the 'End of the World' saga. Figures updated at 08:00 Thai time today:
34,878 confirmed cases ( up 3,397, (6,106 (18%) in critical condition)
Deaths: 724 (up 86)
2,085 recovered. (up 522)
Critically ill has jumped a lot. Death rate is picking up.
I'm wondering what this will peak at, and when that will happen.
Japan, Singapore and HK are now ahead of us in the 'League Table'
34,878 confirmed cases ( up 3,397, (6,106 (18%) in critical condition)
Deaths: 724 (up 86)
2,085 recovered. (up 522)
Critically ill has jumped a lot. Death rate is picking up.
I'm wondering what this will peak at, and when that will happen.
Japan, Singapore and HK are now ahead of us in the 'League Table'