Electric Vehicles (EV) Thread

[handdrummer]

"One of the reasons why (in the UK), the price of second hand cars has been on the increase."

Everywhere.

[KhunLA]

[lindosfan1]

The menace of electric cars.

https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-lon ... 7TkJ7_CQM8

[Dannie Boy]

The menace of electric cars.

https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-lon ... 7TkJ7_CQM8

Just the same as an ICE car running out of petrol - it happens all the time!!


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[lindosfan1]

The menace of electric cars.

https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-lon ... 7TkJ7_CQM8

Just the same as an ICE car running out of petrol - it happens all the time!!


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No a petrol car when it runs out of fuel can be pushed out of the way. They could not move the tesla crap.

[Dannie Boy]

The menace of electric cars.

Just the same as an ICE car running out of petrol - it happens all the time!!


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No a petrol car when it runs out of fuel can be pushed out of the way. They could not move the tesla crap.

Seems like this was just headline grabbing by those (like yourself) who are anti electric cars. This was a random quote found on Google.

Electric cars do not have a clutch or torque converter, so the motor(s) are always mechanically connected to the wheels. Putting a Tesla in neutral, de-energizes the motor(s) and releases the electric parking brake. If the main battery is run down to empty, it is unlikely that the 12V auxiliary battery will also be dead. This auxiliary battery is used to operate the accessories in the car, as well as the touchscreen and computer. If the 12V battery is dead, there are terminals below the frunk (front trunk) liner to connect 12V jumper cables to it.

[lindosfan1]

Just the same as an ICE car running out of petrol - it happens all the time!!


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No a petrol car when it runs out of fuel can be pushed out of the way. They could not move the tesla crap.

Seems like this was just headline grabbing by those (like yourself) who are anti electric cars. This was a random quote found on Google.

Electric cars do not have a clutch or torque converter, so the motor(s) are always mechanically connected to the wheels. Putting a Tesla in neutral, de-energizes the motor(s) and releases the electric parking brake. If the main battery is run down to empty, it is unlikely that the 12V auxiliary battery will also be dead. This auxiliary battery is used to operate the accessories in the car, as well as the touchscreen and computer. If the 12V battery is dead, there are terminals below the frunk (front trunk) liner to connect 12V jumper cables to it.

So why was it stuck for 3 hours. It goes into parking mode and would not move.

[Dannie Boy]

No a petrol car when it runs out of fuel can be pushed out of the way. They could not move the tesla crap.

Seems like this was just headline grabbing by those (like yourself) who are anti electric cars. This was a random quote found on Google.

Electric cars do not have a clutch or torque converter, so the motor(s) are always mechanically connected to the wheels. Putting a Tesla in neutral, de-energizes the motor(s) and releases the electric parking brake. If the main battery is run down to empty, it is unlikely that the 12V auxiliary battery will also be dead. This auxiliary battery is used to operate the accessories in the car, as well as the touchscreen and computer. If the 12V battery is dead, there are terminals below the frunk (front trunk) liner to connect 12V jumper cables to it.

So why was it stuck for 3 hours. It goes into parking mode and would not move.

Why am I bothering to debate this with you - neither you of I know the reason why and frankly I don’t give a damn!!


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[lindosfan1]

Just the same as an ICE car running out of petrol - it happens all the time!!


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No a petrol car when it runs out of fuel can be pushed out of the way. They could not move the tesla crap.

Seems like this was just headline grabbing by those (like yourself) who are anti electric cars. This was a random quote found on Google.

Electric cars do not have a clutch or torque converter, so the motor(s) are always mechanically connected to the wheels. Putting a Tesla in neutral, de-energizes the motor(s) and releases the electric parking brake. If the main battery is run down to empty, it is unlikely that the 12V auxiliary battery will also be dead. This auxiliary battery is used to operate the accessories in the car, as well as the touchscreen and computer. If the 12V battery is dead, there are terminals below the frunk (front trunk) liner to connect 12V jumper cables to it.

Interesting quote from Quora real experts. You can move it in theory quite complicated
Another quote from the internet.

It is possible to drive a Tesla until the battery is completely dead and the car stops at the side of the road. If that happens, you have to call for a flatbed truck to come pick it up and take it to a charger.

Do not bother to reply I get fed up with electric vehicle "experts"

[Dannie Boy]

No a petrol car when it runs out of fuel can be pushed out of the way. They could not move the tesla crap.

Seems like this was just headline grabbing by those (like yourself) who are anti electric cars. This was a random quote found on Google.

Electric cars do not have a clutch or torque converter, so the motor(s) are always mechanically connected to the wheels. Putting a Tesla in neutral, de-energizes the motor(s) and releases the electric parking brake. If the main battery is run down to empty, it is unlikely that the 12V auxiliary battery will also be dead. This auxiliary battery is used to operate the accessories in the car, as well as the touchscreen and computer. If the 12V battery is dead, there are terminals below the frunk (front trunk) liner to connect 12V jumper cables to it.

Interesting quote from Quora real experts. You can move it in theory quite complicated
Another quote from the internet.

It is possible to drive a Tesla until the battery is completely dead and the car stops at the side of the road. If that happens, you have to call for a flatbed truck to come pick it up and take it to a charger.

Do not bother to reply I get fed up with electric vehicle "experts"

Pratt


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[pharvey]

^^ Guys, come on...... Certainly no experts on "Electric Cars" here!

I do think we can all agree however that at the moment, they are: -

* Overpriced currently.
* Battery life and range needs to be extended.
* Charging Stations must be increased (pretty much globally, though my bitch is within the UK and Europe).

I've mentioned previously that I was looking at an EV, but at the end of the day both out of my budget and with range restrictions and lack of charging stations in the areas of the UK I can and will work, totally impractical.

I/the LHG may well look at a Hybrid at the moment for a replacement car, but certainly not an EV - these are 5 to 10 years off for the "average family" cost-wise, and perhaps a little further from being "truly environmentally friendly".

I work for a very large company - myself working in the "Mining and Minerals" sector of this company (though they are involved in numerous sectors). I know very well the requirements, the materials and the consequences to the environment of the mining related to EV's and their batteries.

You can argue until the cows come home, but I've seen the mining sector first hand for 30+ years. I've seen the positives, negatives and utter devastation required for many wonderful innovations - believe me, the devastation is very real. Financial gain always outways pretty much all for the majority.

I'm actually very grateful to say that the company I work for these days are striding to make changes for the better.

[lindosfan1]

^^ Guys, come on...... Certainly no experts on "Electric Cars" here!

I do think we can all agree however that at the moment, they are: -

* Overpriced currently.
* Battery life and range needs to be extended.
* Charging Stations must be increased (pretty much globally, though my bitch is within the UK and Europe).

I've mentioned previously that I was looking at an EV, but at the end of the day both out of my budget and with range restrictions and lack of charging stations in the areas of the UK I can and will work, totally impractical.

I/the LHG may well look at a Hybrid at the moment for a replacement car, but certainly not an EV - these are 5 to 10 years off for the "average family" cost-wise, and perhaps a little further from being "truly environmentally friendly".

I work for a very large company - myself working in the "Mining and Minerals" sector of this company (though they are involved in numerous sectors). I know very well the requirements, the materials and the consequences to the environment of the mining related to EV's and their batteries.

You can argue until the cows come home, but I've seen the mining sector first hand for 30+ years. I've seen the positives, negatives and utter devastation required for many wonderful innovations - believe me, the devastation is very real. Financial gain always outways pretty much all for the majority.

I'm actually very grateful to say that the company I work for these days are striding to make changes for the better.

Strange just after reading this, there was an article in the news about and electric car reigniting. Rather than provide a link to the news item (the non believers would scream set up etc) I researched this.
Apparently these lithium batteries if faulty can ignite at any time and reignite months later. Therefore the towing of these cars is dodgy, the storage of old batteries is dodgy and as mentioned before the mining of the lithium has many problems. Before the anti petrol brigade scream petrol is more inflammable, totally agree, but it does not self ignite it only burns once. Link below.

https://collisionweek.com/2021/01/14/nt ... eks-later/

[handdrummer]

^^ Guys, come on...... Certainly no experts on "Electric Cars" here!

I do think we can all agree however that at the moment, they are: -

* Overpriced currently.
* Battery life and range needs to be extended.
* Charging Stations must be increased (pretty much globally, though my bitch is within the UK and Europe).

I've mentioned previously that I was looking at an EV, but at the end of the day both out of my budget and with range restrictions and lack of charging stations in the areas of the UK I can and will work, totally impractical.

I/the LHG may well look at a Hybrid at the moment for a replacement car, but certainly not an EV - these are 5 to 10 years off for the "average family" cost-wise, and perhaps a little further from being "truly environmentally friendly".

I work for a very large company - myself working in the "Mining and Minerals" sector of this company (though they are involved in numerous sectors). I know very well the requirements, the materials and the consequences to the environment of the mining related to EV's and their batteries.

You can argue until the cows come home, but I've seen the mining sector first hand for 30+ years. I've seen the positives, negatives and utter devastation required for many wonderful innovations - believe me, the devastation is very real. Financial gain always outways pretty much all for the majority.

I'm actually very grateful to say that the company I work for these days are striding to make changes for the better.

Strange just after reading this, there was an article in the news about and electric car reigniting. Rather than provide a link to the news item (the non believers would scream set up etc) I researched this.
Apparently these lithium batteries if faulty can ignite at any time and reignite months later. Therefore the towing of these cars is dodgy, the storage of old batteries is dodgy and as mentioned before the mining of the lithium has many problems. Before the anti petrol brigade scream petrol is more inflammable, totally agree, but it does not self ignite it only burns once. Link below.

https://collisionweek.com/2021/01/14/nt ... eks-later/

"it only burns once." Sounds like the title of the next James Bond film.

[KhunLA]

At present, a bit pricey, ALTHOUGH, it will pay for itself in the long run. Been researching and on an EV kick, and China is the place to be, as cars & scooters are well priced & spec'd over there. No surprise.

Here, I considered the MG EP, which is really nice, with good specs, and a ฿1 mill price point. Have the MG ZS (ice), which I could get ฿600k for w/no prob + 400. Luckily or unluckily, due to my bad back, getting in/out of the EP doesn't work well for me. Fine since I love the ZS, but did want to go EV. EP has more hp & same or more cargo space, since longer, surprisingly. TBH, I need neither, so saved 400k. Decision was made for me, so I like that.

If anyone looking, that would be the one to get, especially at 1 mill price point and as good or better than any other ICE import I've seen at the price. 1.2 puts you in the MG ZS EV, which is an extra ฿400k vs the ICE model @ 800K.
There 8 yr battery warranty is excellent vs ICE petrol cost & maintenance, and they really do pay for themselves in the long run. Thailand's charging station network is pretty good now. Due to lack of EVs on the road, no Qs.

Guess I'm sticking with my EV .... scooter ... that I have already. Looks like it will pay for itself before the warranty is up, just on petrol savings. Quite like it for around town, and haven't driven the ZS in more than a few days. If I'm feeling very macho, just stick it in Harley mode:

[KhunLA]

Besides the MG line of EVs or Hybrid, here's another that should be available soon. Decent specs, but since an import, knocking on the 1 mill entry price point. Sad, because in China, priced at 535k baht.
https://www.9carthai.com/ora-good-cat-p ... gXPD2pT06Q