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In other countries that may perhaps not be the case because, as has been pointed out many times, the larger the percentage of a population that is vaccinated, the larger the percentage of all infections that will occur in vaccinated people, For instance, if 100% of a population were to be vaccinated, 100% of any breakthrough infections would be in vaccinated people.
Big Boy wrote:Aren't BCC helping with booster shots?
The country wants everybody vaccinated, I doubt they'll be too fussy where your first 2 jabs were done. I think it's just waiting a few weeks for them to get their ducks in a row here, and you'll be able to register locally. You've got a few weeks longer than many of us who accepted the cocktail anyway. I think patience could be key.
Ok. So your best guess is... mid January before 'we' (SV and AZ)get called?
Big Boy wrote:Aren't BCC helping with booster shots?
The country wants everybody vaccinated, I doubt they'll be too fussy where your first 2 jabs were done. I think it's just waiting a few weeks for them to get their ducks in a row here, and you'll be able to register locally. You've got a few weeks longer than many of us who accepted the cocktail anyway. I think patience could be key.
Ok. So your best guess is... mid January before 'we' (SV and AZ)get called?
If it were to be that, I think I'd wait
If longer than that I may go to Bangers
Thanks
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Most of us try to be as helpful as possible and as in this case BB has stated what he believes is most likely to happen. At this stage, so soon after the government announced bringing forward booster jabs from 6 months to 3, we have to wait and see what transpires -Hopefully the wait won’t be too long,
thecolonel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:46 am
Ok. So your best guess is... mid January before 'we' (SV and AZ)get called?
Please don't use my assumptions/guesses to influence any important decisions. I DON'T KNOW, is the truth. I read what various groups say, and I am sharing my personal conclusions.
buksida wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:19 am
Having a third, fourth, fifth vaccine does not stop you from transmitting the virus to someone else that may suffer.
It doesn't, but it does reduce the chances. Even two doses already reduces the chance of infection by 33% in the case of the Pfizer vaccine, for instance - while still
protecting more than 70% of people from hospitalisation.
Incidentally, there's no firm indication that 4th or 5th doses of the current vaccines will be required or recommended. It's possible they might be, but some scientists think that the "law of diminishing returns" will start to come into effect.
See quote below from a University of Washington researcher in this regard.
... she doesn’t think there is limitless benefit from boosting again and again, using the same vaccine strain.
[...]
“I think there is a misconception that the immune system can constantly be repetitively elevated such that you don’t go back to that same starting point,” she said. “And in some people, maybe if they didn’t have a good first immune response, it will enhance their cell numbers. But for the large majority you end up hitting a set point of memory that doesn’t just keep getting bigger every single time you get the same boost.”
Completion of the two jab courses really only occurred from September onwards. The government would have planned for booster shots, but that would have been based on a 6 month gap between 2nd shot and booster. So, I suspect that booster shots were initially planned for March-ish and vaccine orders would have been made accordingly (if lessons had been learnt from early 2021).
Possibly deliveries of vaccines could be brought forward, but, who knows.
Regarding BCCT for booster shots, I believe someone asked the question directly and was told that the BCCT are awaiting instructions regarding boosters.
It was posted earlier. Not sure if there's an update.
Big Boy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:23 am
Because they are in the majority in many countries No vaccine is currently going to STOP any virus 100% However, the advantage of the vaccines is they significantly reduce mortality rates, regardless of strain.
I think we all know this, so I don't understand why some people feel the need to keep repeating it.
handdrummer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:51 pm
As far as I know, there's quite a difference between the flu booster shot and the Covid shot.
The flu shot has been around for years and was tested for years before being released to the public. The Covid shot was rushed out and there are still many unknowns, including the long-term effects.
I'm interested in your comment about long-term side effects of Covid vaccines. If you have a concern about this I'd have to hope it has some kind of rational, scientifically-valid basis. That being the case, what according to you, would that basis be?
thecolonel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:46 am
Ok. So your best guess is... mid January before 'we' (SV and AZ)get called?
Please don't use my assumptions/guesses to influence any important decisions. I DON'T KNOW, is the truth. I read what various groups say, and I am sharing my personal conclusions.
handdrummer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:51 pm
As far as I know, there's quite a difference between the flu booster shot and the Covid shot.
The flu shot has been around for years and was tested for years before being released to the public. The Covid shot was rushed out and there are still many unknowns, including the long-term effects.
I'm interested in your comment about long-term side effects of Covid vaccines. If you have a concern about this I'd have to hope it has some kind of rational, scientifically-valid basis. That being the case, what according to you, would that basis be?
Do I need a "scientific basis" to ask about long-term effects? That, for me, is a question I have about every drug. Many drugs have been taken off the market after they were found to have detrimental long-term effects.
My wife and I both managed to get a Pfizer booster vaccine (third vaccine) this morning at Cha Am Municipality. My wife received a message yesterday from a friend who told her that a walk-in vaccine Centre had been arranged and advised to get there early. We arrived at 7am and there was already a queue of about 50 waiting for the staff to arrive, which they did at about 7.30. It was a bit chaotic, but to cut a long story shorter, we got our blood pressure and temperature taken and form filling etc and sat down waiting to get jabbed. It took about 1.1/2 hours from start to finish and then waiting for the final blood pressure check took another half hour or so. All in from home and back again was just short of 3 hours, but worth it.
I’m not certain whether this was restricted to those that live in Cha Am, or had originally been vaccinated at Cha Am Hospital or not, although they did check our vaccine certificate and we had to provide a copy of our ID cards. They made an announcement that updated vaccine certificates would be available in about one week, so all in, a very good service.
Dannie Boy wrote:My wife and I both managed to get a Pfizer booster vaccine (third vaccine) this morning at Cha Am Municipality. My wife received a message yesterday from a friend who told her that a walk-in vaccine Centre had been arranged and advised to get there early. We arrived at 7am and there was already a queue of about 50 waiting for the staff to arrive, which they did at about 7.30. It was a bit chaotic, but to cut a long story shorter, we got our blood pressure and temperature taken and form filling etc and sat down waiting to get jabbed. It took about 1.1/2 hours from start to finish and then waiting for the final blood pressure check took another half hour or so. All in from home and back again was just short of 3 hours, but worth it.
I’m not certain whether this was restricted to those that live in Cha Am, or had originally been vaccinated at Cha Am Hospital or not, although they did check our vaccine certificate and we had to provide a copy of our ID cards. They made an announcement that updated vaccine certificates would be available in about one week, so all in, a very good service.
Well done Dannie, early bird catches the worm!
Hopefully this means it's on the way to Hua Hin soon especially as people are allowed to drink and socialise in the city of HH (and Nong Kae).
Dannie Boy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:17 am
My wife and I both managed to get a Pfizer booster vaccine (third vaccine) this morning at Cha Am Municipality. My wife received a message yesterday from a friend who told her that a walk-in vaccine Centre had been arranged and advised to get there early. We arrived at 7am and there was already a queue of about 50 waiting for the staff to arrive, which they did at about 7.30. It was a bit chaotic, but to cut a long story shorter, we got our blood pressure and temperature taken and form filling etc and sat down waiting to get jabbed. It took about 1.1/2 hours from start to finish and then waiting for the final blood pressure check took another half hour or so. All in from home and back again was just short of 3 hours, but worth it.
I’m not certain whether this was restricted to those that live in Cha Am, or had originally been vaccinated at Cha Am Hospital or not, although they did check our vaccine certificate and we had to provide a copy of our ID cards. They made an announcement that updated vaccine certificates would be available in about one week, so all in, a very good service.
Dannie Boy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:17 am
My wife and I both managed to get a Pfizer booster vaccine (third vaccine) this morning at Cha Am Municipality. My wife received a message yesterday from a friend who told her that a walk-in vaccine Centre had been arranged and advised to get there early. We arrived at 7am and there was already a queue of about 50 waiting for the staff to arrive, which they did at about 7.30. It was a bit chaotic, but to cut a long story shorter, we got our blood pressure and temperature taken and form filling etc and sat down waiting to get jabbed. It took about 1.1/2 hours from start to finish and then waiting for the final blood pressure check took another half hour or so. All in from home and back again was just short of 3 hours, but worth it.
I’m not certain whether this was restricted to those that live in Cha Am, or had originally been vaccinated at Cha Am Hospital or not, although they did check our vaccine certificate and we had to provide a copy of our ID cards. They made an announcement that updated vaccine certificates would be available in about one week, so all in, a very good service.
