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Dannie Boy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:17 am
My wife and I both managed to get a Pfizer booster vaccine (third vaccine) this morning at Cha Am Municipality. My wife received a message yesterday from a friend who told her that a walk-in vaccine Centre had been arranged and advised to get there early. We arrived at 7am and there was already a queue of about 50 waiting for the staff to arrive, which they did at about 7.30. It was a bit chaotic, but to cut a long story shorter, we got our blood pressure and temperature taken and form filling etc and sat down waiting to get jabbed. It took about 1.1/2 hours from start to finish and then waiting for the final blood pressure check took another half hour or so. All in from home and back again was just short of 3 hours, but worth it.
I’m not certain whether this was restricted to those that live in Cha Am, or had originally been vaccinated at Cha Am Hospital or not, although they did check our vaccine certificate and we had to provide a copy of our ID cards. They made an announcement that updated vaccine certificates would be available in about one week, so all in, a very good service.
When was your last 2nd shot of AstraZeneca?
August 23rd
Ok thanks, my husband's was September 23rd so we'll have to wait a bit
Have a pleasant weekend
handdrummer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:28 pm
Do I need a "scientific basis" to ask about long-term effects? That, for me, is a question I have about every drug. Many drugs have been taken off the market after they were found to have detrimental long-term effects.
Well see, that's the thing. While many drugs have been found to have long term side effects, no vaccine ever has. In the entire history of medicine there has never been a vaccine that has been shown to have long term side effects. In fact there's no known biological mechanism whereby it could occur
So if you're going to suggest something as novel as that, you have to have some way to explain how it might happen.
Vaccines work in a way that is fundamentally different from therapeutic drugs. This is explained by a virologist in the link below, as follows:
Vaccines are just designed to deliver a payload and then are quickly eliminated by the body,” Goepfert said. “This is particularly true of the mRNA vaccines. mRNA degrades incredibly rapidly. You wouldn’t expect any of these vaccines to have any long-term side effects. And in fact, this has never occurred with any vaccine."
To expand on that explanation about vaccines just delivering a payload that is quickly eliminated, we need to consider how vaccines work.
Once a vaccine is injected, the body's immune system recognises the vaccine as the harmful pathogen it is designed to mimic and mobilises antibodies and "killer' T cells to destroy the vaccine's components in fairly short order. In doing so, the immune system learns how to combat the real pathogen if and when it encounters it in future.
However, because the immune system has recognised and destroyed the vaccine's components, after seeing it as a potentially harmful foreign invader, there's actually nothing left afterwards, that could cause any long term effects years down the road.
So in the end you're going to have to come up with an explanation of how something that no longer exists in the body, can then cause long term adverse effects. Which is a bit of a reach, if you ask me.
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sateeb wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:49 pm
Very well put GHW, but there will still be the nay sayers who worship at the feet of Dr Andrew Wakefield( )
True, but even Wakefield didn't claim that vaccines caused long term adverse effects years later. In fact one of the main tenets of the whole "vaccines cause autism" myth was the idea that children developed autism shortly after being vaccinated.
In his fraudulent paper published in the Lancet, Wakefield claimed that:
the onset of these symptoms began within two weeks of MMR vaccination.
Dannie Boy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:17 am
My wife and I both managed to get a Pfizer booster vaccine (third vaccine) this morning at Cha Am Municipality. My wife received a message yesterday from a friend who told her that a walk-in vaccine Centre had been arranged and advised to get there early. We arrived at 7am and there was already a queue of about 50 waiting for the staff to arrive, which they did at about 7.30. It was a bit chaotic, but to cut a long story shorter, we got our blood pressure and temperature taken and form filling etc and sat down waiting to get jabbed. It took about 1.1/2 hours from start to finish and then waiting for the final blood pressure check took another half hour or so. All in from home and back again was just short of 3 hours, but worth it.
I’m not certain whether this was restricted to those that live in Cha Am, or had originally been vaccinated at Cha Am Hospital or not, although they did check our vaccine certificate and we had to provide a copy of our ID cards. They made an announcement that updated vaccine certificates would be available in about one week, so all in, a very good service.
It wasn't restricted to people living or vaccinated in Cha-am. After seeing this post I trundled on up to Cha-am and was pleasantly surprised to find that they were perfectly happy to give me the booster. Especially since the poster outside said it was only for people who'd had two doses of the same vaccine and I'd had SinoVac plus AstraZeneca.
They asked me if I'd had my previous doses in Cha-am and I said no, in Hua Hin, but they didn't seem to care. Then they asked me my address which I gave them and obviously it was in Hua Hin but again, no problem.
Anyway, I got there just after 1 pm and there were quite a few people in the queue but by 4 pm I was duly boosted and on my way home.
Dannie Boy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:17 am
My wife and I both managed to get a Pfizer booster vaccine (third vaccine) this morning at Cha Am Municipality. My wife received a message yesterday from a friend who told her that a walk-in vaccine Centre had been arranged and advised to get there early. We arrived at 7am and there was already a queue of about 50 waiting for the staff to arrive, which they did at about 7.30. It was a bit chaotic, but to cut a long story shorter, we got our blood pressure and temperature taken and form filling etc and sat down waiting to get jabbed. It took about 1.1/2 hours from start to finish and then waiting for the final blood pressure check took another half hour or so. All in from home and back again was just short of 3 hours, but worth it.
I’m not certain whether this was restricted to those that live in Cha Am, or had originally been vaccinated at Cha Am Hospital or not, although they did check our vaccine certificate and we had to provide a copy of our ID cards. They made an announcement that updated vaccine certificates would be available in about one week, so all in, a very good service.
It wasn't restricted to people living or vaccinated in Cha-am. After seeing this post I trundled on up to Cha-am and was pleasantly surprised to find that they were perfectly happy to give me the booster. Especially since the poster outside said it was only for people who'd had two doses of the same vaccine and I'd had SinoVac plus AstraZeneca.
They asked me if I'd had my previous doses in Cha-am and I said no, in Hua Hin, but they didn't seem to care. Then they asked me my address which I gave them and obviously it was in Hua Hin but again, no problem.
Anyway, I got there just after 1 pm and there were quite a few people in the queue but by 4 pm I was duly boosted and on my way home.
Bit of a long wait but as you say, worth it.
Great news - I think today they were only offering Sinovac and AZ as first or second dose, no booster vaccines available and I’m not sure if/when they will offer them?
Dannie Boy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:17 am
My wife and I both managed to get a Pfizer booster vaccine (third vaccine) this morning at Cha Am Municipality. My wife received a message yesterday from a friend who told her that a walk-in vaccine Centre had been arranged and advised to get there early. We arrived at 7am and there was already a queue of about 50 waiting for the staff to arrive, which they did at about 7.30. It was a bit chaotic, but to cut a long story shorter, we got our blood pressure and temperature taken and form filling etc and sat down waiting to get jabbed. It took about 1.1/2 hours from start to finish and then waiting for the final blood pressure check took another half hour or so. All in from home and back again was just short of 3 hours, but worth it.
I’m not certain whether this was restricted to those that live in Cha Am, or had originally been vaccinated at Cha Am Hospital or not, although they did check our vaccine certificate and we had to provide a copy of our ID cards. They made an announcement that updated vaccine certificates would be available in about one week, so all in, a very good service.
It wasn't restricted to people living or vaccinated in Cha-am. After seeing this post I trundled on up to Cha-am and was pleasantly surprised to find that they were perfectly happy to give me the booster. Especially since the poster outside said it was only for people who'd had two doses of the same vaccine and I'd had SinoVac plus AstraZeneca.
They asked me if I'd had my previous doses in Cha-am and I said no, in Hua Hin, but they didn't seem to care. Then they asked me my address which I gave them and obviously it was in Hua Hin but again, no problem.
Anyway, I got there just after 1 pm and there were quite a few people in the queue but by 4 pm I was duly boosted and on my way home.
Bit of a long wait but as you say, worth it.
Did you also go to Cha Am Municipality? Which booster did you get ? If you don't mind my asking
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) for checking 3rd shot (AZ) for those who received first 2 shots of Sinopharm. 