Blender for Smoothies - Recommendations?

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Big Boy wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:43 am I've since seen the same machine being used in many Thai establishments. OK, you get good and bad with everything, but IMHO there is no risk whatsoever.
Sorry for the poorly worded post. What I was trying to convey was that selecting a seller was a crap shoot because of the significant differences in descriptions, reviews and buyer comments. I'm quite confident that the blender itself will be fine.
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The beast arrived today. It is very lightweight; almost all plastic, but seems to be solid.

I'm not in charge of smoothie making, so, in the absence of my wife, I put a bit of water in it and a handful of ice cubs and cranked it up. The ice cubes had disappeared in a matter of seconds. No cavitation around the blades.

It is noisy, but I don't anticipate having to run it very long per smoothie.

It does say 4500W on the label stuck to the body.
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It's about 6 weeks on. Was it up to the job?
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Big Boy wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 1:01 pm It's about 6 weeks on. Was it up to the job?
After all that, my wife has used it exactly once. So, she's not really in a position to judge.

However, I used it to make a few ice coffee smoothies. It is a beast. Noisy, but effective.

And, we've noticed that same model in use at a number of commercial establishments.

I'm sure it will be fine.

Thanks again for the advice.
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Good, I'm always wary when I advise on mechanical things. :D
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Ratsima wrote:The beast arrived today. It is very lightweight; almost all plastic, but seems to be solid.

I'm not in charge of smoothie making, so, in the absence of my wife, I put a bit of water in it and a handful of ice cubs and cranked it up. The ice cubes had disappeared in a matter of seconds. No cavitation around the blades.

It is noisy, but I don't anticipate having to run it very long per smoothie.

It does say 4500W on the label stuck to the body.
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Whatever might be written there, it won't be 4.5kW. maybe 450W.
Just look the size of a pool pump with usually 1.5kW.
Except you blender has the size of a big concrete mixer
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georgy wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 2:23 am Whatever might be written there, it won't be 4.5kW. maybe 450W.
Just look the size of a pool pump with usually 1.5kW.
Except you blender has the size of a big concrete mixer
I think we all realized that. I was just curious to see if the appliance tag reflected reality or the marketing hype. Turns out they went for the hype.

And, yes, it is huge. Looks pretty powerful sitting there on the kitchen counter.
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Being of a curious nature and having too much time on my hands, I looked at wattages of various blenders.
It does appear that 4.5KW may well be true. Some general reviews say that under 1KW is fine for soft foods but higher is better. An equivalent german brand states 5KW.

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First, I'm no electronics expert, but...

If it were 4500 watts it would draw about 20 amps at full power, assuming 220 volts. So, when I cranked it up to high crushing ice cubes it should have tripped my 16 amp breaker.

Is that right?
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From what I've read, circuit breakers will trip if amps are higher than the rated breaker. However it appears that it's quite common for a delay. i.e. you can exceed the amps for a short while without tripping the breaker.

Like you, I'm certainly no expert, and only relate what I read.

That would explain a particular trip in my house. I can run the water in the kitchen sink at maximum hot with no problem. However, if I run it at hot for several minutes, then it's tripped on the main board. Resetting it will allow me to continue.
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The only way to be sure just how many amps anything is drawing is to measure it. There are "clip-on" amp meters but they need to be clipped around 1 conductor only.

Breakers have what is called a "trip curve". That is, amps plotted against time. Domestic breakers are usually "C" curve.
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Nereus wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 10:16 am The only way to be sure just how many amps anything is drawing is to measure it. There are "clip-on" amp meters but they need to be clipped around 1 conductor only.
You were previously skeptical about the watt ratings. You thought they might be meaning BTU or something and you wrote:
For the 2 litre version at 4,250 Bt converts to 1,245 watts, a possible figure, but still a bit high.
So, do you think this blender could be 4500 watts, or is that way too high for this sort of product?
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Take a look at this - it infers that a top end blender is no more than 1500 watts so 4500 watts seems very, very unlikely!!
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Ratsima wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 10:50 am
Nereus wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 10:16 am The only way to be sure just how many amps anything is drawing is to measure it. There are "clip-on" amp meters but they need to be clipped around 1 conductor only.
You were previously skeptical about the watt ratings. You thought they might be meaning BTU or something and you wrote:
For the 2 litre version at 4,250 Bt converts to 1,245 watts, a possible figure, but still a bit high.
So, do you think this blender could be 4500 watts, or is that way too high for this sort of product?
I beleive it is just a marketing spiel, particualry as there is another one quoted at 8,000 watts.

1200 watts is a reasonable figure for such a machine. In round numbers 746 watts is 1hp. So 4,500 watts is around 6hp.
Newton tells as about action and reaction, so to me something that is developing 6hp in a rotating direction would need to be bolted down to stop it rotating, at least when it starts up!

So to answer your question: yes, I think it is too high.
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Nereus wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 11:23 am So to answer your question: yes, I think it is too high.
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