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PeteC wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:50 pm France to spend €200m destroying wine as demand falls

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66623636

The French government is allocating €200m (£171.6m) to destroy surplus wine and support producers.

It comes amid a cocktail of problems for the industry, including a falling demand for wine as more people drink craft beer.

Overproduction and the cost of living crisis are also hitting the industry.

Most of the €200m will be used to buy excess stock, with the alcohol sold for use in items such as hand sanitiser, cleaning products and perfume.

In a bid to cut back on the overproduction, money will also be available for winegrowers to change to other products, such as olives........
In relation to the above post/article in "Wine - Feeding Time". NO, I don't think olives will be a practical substitute as every country in Europe continues to be decimated by this olive tree killing bacteria. It's gotten progressively worse since these initial articles from 3-5 years ago. Google "Olive tree deaths in the EU" and there are many more articles. Events like this along with banana, coffee and so many other bacterial diseases are natural disasters more serious than any volcano et al. :(

Deadly olive tree disease across Europe 'could cost billions'

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-52234561
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Almost too much on this to post. Follow the links and you'll find most of it. :(

Death toll in Japan earthquake hits 48 as rescuers search rubble

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-asia-67856144 (Many photos and video)
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Well, this is something that has already made many homeless and the destruction caused so far and the magnitude of "Hurricane Beryl" is unprecedented so early in the year. Numerous reports on the Web, but areas have been hit hard...Barbados, Saint Lucia, Grenada, Tobago included and areas of Mexico now under warnings.

Incredible how quickly this has developed and the power it has reached. Live Tracker @ link: - https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/ ... cane-beryl
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Typhoon Gaemi hits China after deaths in Taiwan and Philippines

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2gz7ky2weo. (Photos)

Typhoon Gaemi has made landfall in mainland China after wreaking havoc in Taiwan and the Philippines.

More than 150,000 people living in the south-eastern Chinese province of Fujan have been relocated to safer areas in anticipation of the storm.

It comes after widespread flooding and landslides across Taiwan and the Philippines, killing at least 21 people.

The Philippines says it is "racing against time" to contain an oil spill after a tanker carrying 1.5 million litres of industrial fuel capsized and sank off of the country's coast.

The ship was one of two which sank in the region on Thursday, with the second going down just off Taiwan's south-western coast.

China activated its highest-tier disaster warning as the storm made its way to its shores on Thursday evening local time.

Train services have been suspended in Fujan, while authorities in northern China have warned heavy rains could trigger landslides and flooding.

Meanwhile, the State Flood Control and Drought Relief Headquarters says there is a "high risk" of natural disasters.

China is experiencing a summer of extremely changeable weather, with heavy downpours in the east and south and scorching heatwaves in the north.

A clean-up operation is currently taking place in Taiwan following the typhoon - the largest to have struck the island in eight years but only the first of this year's storm season.

Taiwan’s meteorological office said several areas of the island received more than 1000mm of rainfall between Wednesday night and Thursday lunchtime, while the southern city of Kaohsuing recorded 1350mm of rain.

It left large areas of the city under more than a metre of flood water and three people were killed.

A search and rescue operation is underway to find the remaining six Burmese sailors who were reported missing after their Tanzania-flagged cargo ship Fu Shun went down off the northern coast of Taiwan.

Three crew members have been rescued so far, but high winds and choppy seas are hampering rescue efforts, officials have said.

Five other cargo ships have been run aground close to the island.

Despite avoiding a direct hit by the storm, Typhoon Gaemi had intensified seasonal monsoon rains by the time it hit the Philippines, causing widespread flooding in Manila.

The storm caused the MT Terra Nova, a tanker that was heading to the Philippine city of Iloilo, to sink with 17 crew members on board.

The Philippine coast guard said it found the body of one missing crew member, and 16 others were rescued.

A huge operation is now underway to manage an oil spill which could be the worst in the country's history if not properly contained.

The coast guard has detected an oil slick stretching to about four kilometres, describing it as "enormous".

Rear Admiral Armando Balilo said the spill would "definitely affect the marine environment".

Manila Bay, where the tanker capsized, hosts busy shipping lanes and its shores are home to shopping malls, casino resorts and fishing communities.

Experts said that under ordinary circumstances officials would immediately deploy booms, or temporary floating barriers, to limit how far the spill can spread - but the bad weather has delayed these efforts.
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A critical system of Atlantic Ocean currents could collapse as early as the 2030s, new research suggests

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A vital system of Atlantic Ocean currents that influences weather across the world could collapse as soon as the late 2030s, scientists have suggested in a new study — a planetary-scale disaster that would transform weather and climate.

Several studies in recent years have suggested the crucial system — the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC — could be on course for collapse, weakened by warmer ocean temperatures and disrupted saltiness caused by human-induced climate change.

But the new research, which is being peer-reviewed and hasn’t yet been published in a journal, uses a state-of-the-art model to estimate when it could collapse, suggesting a shutdown could happen between 2037 and 2064.

This research suggests it’s more likely than not to collapse by 2050.

“This is really worrying,” said René van Westen, a marine and atmospheric researcher at the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands and study co-author.

“All the negative side effects of anthropogenic climate change, they will still continue to go on, like more heat waves, more droughts, more flooding,” he told CNN. “Then if you also have on top of that an AMOC collapse … the climate will become even more distorted.”

Like a conveyor belt, the AMOC pulls warm surface water from the southern hemisphere and the tropics and distributes it in the cold North Atlantic. The colder, saltier water then sinks and flows south. The mechanism keeps parts of the Southern Hemisphere from overheating and parts of the Northern Hemisphere from getting unbearably cold, while distributing nutrients that sustain life in marine ecosystems.

The impacts of an AMOC collapse would leave parts of the world unrecognizable.

In the decades after a collapse, Arctic ice would start creeping south, and after 100 years, would extend all the way down to the southern coast of England. Europe’s average temperature would plunge, as would North America’s – including parts of the US. The Amazon rainforest would see a complete reversal in its seasons; the current dry season would become the rainy months, and vice versa.

An AMOC collapse “is a really big danger that we should do everything we can to avoid,” said Stefan Rahmstorf, a physical oceanographer at Potsdam University in Germany who was not involved in the latest research.

To reach their conclusions, the scientists from Utrecht used state-of-the-art models and for the first time identified an area of the South Atlantic Ocean as the optimal place to monitor for changes in the circulation and use observational data. They looked at temperatures and ocean saltiness there to firm up previous predictions on when the AMOC might reach its tipping point.

The emphasis in ocean research on the timing of the collapse is a relatively new development, said Rahmstorf. But it speaks to how far scientists’ understanding of the AMOC’s weakening has advanced.

“Until a few years ago, we were discussing whether it would happen at all, as a kind of low-probability, high-impact risk,” Rahmstorf told CNN. “And now it looks a lot more likely than just a few years ago that this will happen. Now people are starting to close in on when it will happen.”

Rahmstorf said that five or so years ago he would have agreed that an AMOC collapse this century was unlikely, though even a 10% risk is still unacceptably high “for a catastrophic impact of such magnitude.”

“There’s now five papers, basically, that suggested it could well happen in this century, or even before the middle of the century,” Rahmstof said. “My overall assessment is now that the risk of us passing the tipping point in this century is probably even greater than 50%.”

While the advances in AMOC research have been swift and the models that try to predict its collapse have advanced at lightning speed, they are still not without issues.

For example, the models don’t take into consideration a critical factor in the AMOC’s demise — melting Greenland ice. Massive amounts of fresh water are sloughing off the ice sheet and flowing into the North Atlantic, which disrupts one of the circulation’s driving forces: salt.

“You’re already getting a huge influx of fresh water into the northern Atlantic, which is going to completely disrupt the system,” Rahmstorf said.

This research gap means the predictions could underestimate how soon or fast a collapse would happen, Rahmstof said.
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^I don't think our descendants are going to be very impressed with the state of the world that we've left them.
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STEVE G wrote:^I don't think our descendants are going to be very impressed with the state of the world that we've left them.
Not just our descendants - some of the younger fraternity using the Forum will probably experience it!!


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Dannie Boy wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 1:39 pm
STEVE G wrote:^I don't think our descendants are going to be very impressed with the state of the world that we've left them.
Not just our descendants - some of the younger fraternity using the Forum will probably experience it!!
I missed this - "We" as in which generation (or area)? Huge growth was due to the Industrial Revolution which came at a huge cost - Britain was at the heart of it all, inventions, new medications, incredible engineering, education, worldwide transport, exploration and know-how.... Pollution at the time was incredible which we have addressed or are doing so - the likes of China and India (and many others) are not - the latter due to the influence of the former. Whilst professing "Green Goals", China and India are both huge on "Fossil Fuel" usage and pollution, not to mention chemicals used and mining practices (I have seen this first hand over many years - of course leading to Batteries for phones, computers and EVs et al.)).

Anywho - getting away from THAT Rant sorry :rant: .... :oops:

News of a potential "Mega Quake" in Japan is a massive concern, and again raises the question over knock-on effects in the area. Is there a larger concern for Thailand?

Loads Online regarding the recent 7+ quake in Japan on the BBC, Guardian, Bangkok Post etc.

Is there increased activity in the area - chances of a repeat of the Tsunami that hit Phuket :cry:
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pharvey wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 7:29 pm
Dannie Boy wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 1:39 pm
STEVE G wrote:^I don't think our descendants are going to be very impressed with the state of the world that we've left them.
Not just our descendants - some of the younger fraternity using the Forum will probably experience it!!
I missed this - "We" as in which generation (or area)? Huge growth was due to the Industrial Revolution which came at a huge cost - Britain was at the heart of it all, inventions, new medications, incredible engineering, education, worldwide transport, exploration and know-how.... Pollution at the time was incredible which we have addressed or are doing so - the likes of China and India (and many others) are not - the latter due to the influence of the former. Whilst professing "Green Goals", China and India are both huge on "Fossil Fuel" usage and pollution, not to mention chemicals used and mining practices (I have seen this first hand over many years - of course leading to Batteries for phones, computers and EVs et al.)).

Anywho - getting away from THAT Rant sorry :rant: .... :oops:

News of a potential "Mega Quake" in Japan is a massive concern, and again raises the question over knock-on effects in the area. Is there a larger concern for Thailand?

Loads Online regarding the recent 7+ quake in Japan on the BBC, Guardian, Bangkok Post etc.

Is there increased activity in the area - chances of a repeat of the Tsunami that hit Phuket :cry:
Let’s hope that this is somebody covering all aspects rather than genuine concern, but talks of a mega quake seem a distinct possibility over the next few decades!!
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pharvey wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 7:29 pm News of a potential "Mega Quake" in Japan is a massive concern, and again raises the question over knock-on effects in the area. Is there a larger concern for Thailand?

Loads Online regarding the recent 7+ quake in Japan on the BBC, Guardian, Bangkok Post etc.

Is there increased activity in the area - chances of a repeat of the Tsunami that hit Phuket :cry:
There's no indication I've seen that a quake there would have anything other than a minor effect on Thailand.

The 2004 Indian Ocean quake took place in a location that was separated from Phuket by only around 400km of completely open water.

The fault line involved in this potential mega quake (the Nankai megathrust fault) is located over 4,000km away from Thailand and with multiple land masses in between to dissipate, deflect and/or absorb the effects of any tsunami.

For instance, the tsunami from the 9.0 magnitude Fukushima earthquake didn't reach Thailand at all. Although the Nankai trough fault is a little further south, the predictions are still for a quake with a magnitude of between 8 and 9 so I don't think the end result for Thailand would be a whole lot different.
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Severe typhoon approaching Japan disrupts flights, trains

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/28482 ... hts-trains

Typhoon Ampil edged closer to Japan’s main island of Honshu on Friday, forcing airlines to cancel flights and the government to issue warnings against possible landslides and flooding.

Japan Airlines Co and All Nippon Airways Co cancelled some 90 international flights, impacting more than 15,000 passengers. The two carriers also scrapped about 560 domestic routes, disrupting roughly 104,000 travellers who were looking to fly to destinations such as Okinawa, Osaka and Fukuoka. Flights will continue to be impacted through Saturday, they added...........
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Everest's Sherpas fear their homes could wash away

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c785nwq568zo (Photos)


Sitting at an altitude of around 3,800m (12,467ft) is Thame, a small Sherpa village in Nepal's Everest region.

It is home to many record-holding Sherpa mountaineers, including Sherpa Tenzing Norgay, the first person to climb Mount Everest along with explorer Edmund Hillary.

But on 16 August, the village was engulfed by icy flood waters after a glacial lake burst its banks, displacing some 60 people and destroying more than a dozen houses and hotels along with a school and health clinic.

The incident has left many of the village's residents - around 300 people - wondering whether it is even safe to live there any longer...............
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This story is in progress.

Millions told to evacuate as Japan hit by one of strongest typhoons in decades

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c80eje2r20rt
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Typhoon Shanshan causes widespread Japan disruption

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62rl70jge3o. (VIdeo & Chart)

Trains and flights have been cancelled in Japan as one of the strongest typhoons to hit the country in decades drenches cities in its path.

At least six people have been killed and more than 100 injured after Typhoon Shanshan made landfall in the south-western Japan on Thursday.

Now downgraded to a tropical storm, Shanshan is still packing winds of 90km/h (56mph)................
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