Global Warming 2

[404cameljockey]

Hot? No doubt as to which way it's going next year though.

Does anyone actually know any climate change deniers?

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/earth_temp ... meline.png

'After setting your car on fire: "listen, your car temperature has changed in the past"'

[PeteC]

Temperatures in Pakistan cross 52 degrees Celsius — that’s more than 125°F

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/28/asia ... index.html

[STEVE G]

^Temperatures like that, depending on the humidity, are approaching the limits of what is actually survivable for humans.

[PeteC]

^Temperatures like that, depending on the humidity, are approaching the limits of what is actually survivable for humans.

I think we've talked before on here that nature has a way to balance species. It's happened probably thousands of time in the history of the planet. We're just another one of those species. Ideal human population for a balanced planet is 2 billion, as it was in 1950.

[STEVE G]

Sunday was globally the hottest day on record until Monday which was hotter and Tuesday was then the second hottest:

Slight temperature drop makes Tuesday the world’s second-hottest day

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/sligh ... 54000.html

[Lost]

It's not all doom and gloom for us when you look at past predictions.

May they hopefully continue to be wrong.

Stanford biologist Paul Erlich:

The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs

1970: Harvard biologist and Nobel Prize winner George Wald:

Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.

1970, the Boston Globe ran with a chilling headline, “Scientist Predicts A New Ice Age By 21st Century.”

Air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the first third of the next century if population continues to grow and earth’s resources are consumed at the present rate…

1982: executive director of UN Environment Program

In less than 20 years. He cited “an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as complete, as irreversible as any nuclear holocaust.

My carbon footprint is zero. Think I've said before. But I'll not berate others for living. I'll certainly not listen to celebrity 'eco-warriors' who take private jets and have luxury yachts... that would be retarded.

[hhinner]

It's not all doom and gloom for us when you look at past predictions.

May they hopefully continue to be wrong.

Stanford biologist Paul Erlich:

The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs

1970: Harvard biologist and Nobel Prize winner George Wald:

Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.

1970, the Boston Globe ran with a chilling headline, “Scientist Predicts A New Ice Age By 21st Century.”

Air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the first third of the next century if population continues to grow and earth’s resources are consumed at the present rate…

1982: executive director of UN Environment Program

In less than 20 years. He cited “an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as complete, as irreversible as any nuclear holocaust.

My carbon footprint is zero. Think I've said before. But I'll not berate others for living. I'll certainly not listen to celebrity 'eco-warriors' who take private jets and have luxury yachts... that would be retarded.

I'd really like to know how your carbon footprint is zero. May be the only such person on the planet.

[STEVE G]

May they hopefully continue to be wrong.

Repeated hottest days ever suggest that they're not wrong.

[pharvey]

May they hopefully continue to be wrong.

Repeated hottest days ever suggest that they're not wrong.

Overpopulation - China/India, Mass Pollution - China/India, Mass Growing Populations - African Nations... Hand out Condoms rather than Aid (or is that racist)? Personally I believe many of the low IQ thugs and delinquents in the UK and worldwide should be neutered. Crime, Over Population, Starvation and Droughts certainly reduced - as of course will Environmental Issues!

[EDIT] Not completely Right Wing....

Would this help so called "Global Warming" - yes perhaps, but not in my lifetime.

[STEVE G]

Some progress anyway:

Solar, wind capacity surpasses coal in China

Research consultancy Rystad Energy is predicting solar power will become China’s primary energy source by 2026, after the combined capacity of the country’s deployed solar and wind power overtook coal for the first time in June.
Solar and wind energy exceeded coal capacity in China for the first time in history in June, according to analysis by Norwegian research consultancy Rystad Energy.

The consultancy is predicting that by 2026, solar power will alone surpass coal as China’s primary energy source, with a cumulative capacity exceeding 1.38 TW, 150 GW more than coal.

While over 100 GW of new solar were deployed in China over the first six months of 2024, Rystad Energy found only 8 GW of coal was added. However, China remains the largest global consumer of coal, accounting for more than 50% of worldwide consumption.
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2024/08/01/ ... -in-china/

[STEVE G]

And in Europe:

Solar and wind overtake fossil fuels in ‘historic’ first for Europe

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/sola ... 91148.html

"Wind turbines and solar panels generated 30 per cent of the European Union’s electricity in the first six months of 2024, according to energy think tank Ember, while the share of fossil fuel generation fell to 27 per cent."

[hhinner]

Just watched this. Not encouraged.

TED Talks,Tipping points of climate change:
https://www.ted.com/talks/johan_rockstr ... e_we_stand

[Ratsima]

I’m a bit embarrassed at actually having publishing this video. It’s not very interesting, but I’m keeping up with a long tradition. Losin has been one of my favorite dive sites since I first visited in 2012. I like it because it’s a huge site with lots of beautiful soft and hard corals as well as an always interesting array of other sea life.

Sadly, warming water has had a significant effect on Losin. Much of the hard coral is “bleached” (the algae have fled the scene) and many of the creatures that were once common seem to be missing in action. No turtles, no jellyfish, no massive schools of Fusiliers or glass fish, a dearth of Baracuda and no whale sharks or eagle rays.

Still, it’s a beautiful place, worth a look. I hope it recovers.

[Dannie Boy]

Not sure if this is the correct thread or not, but as opposed to global warming, my sister who lives in the suburbs of Johannesburg sent me this photo from yesterday - 2 days earlier it was 30°c and the same expected next week, but yesterday…..

[STEVE G]

^Climate change is causing the polar vortexes to become less stable leading to situations like that.
On a more positive note, there are some indications that the amount of renewable energy being installed and a move towards electric transport is starting to take effect. Emissions might possibly peak this year and oil production has never got back to the level it was at in November 2019.
The price of renewable energy and batteries keep going down to the point where economics are going to win the argument.
Much of the rhetoric against mitigating climate change comes out of America, which as the world's largest oil producer has much to lose but for countries like Thailand a move away from fossil fuels would be financially beneficial and gain energy independence.