Reverse the Roles

[crazy88]

VS wrote

" a young, beautiful lass can earn much more than I can selling sex"

Can't see why VS,you look good to me in your picture

How much do they earn in reality ?

Take away the fact that a lot of soft twats pull girls off a pole in bar and tell all their mates they met them in a department store/optician shop .Then buy/build them the biggest house in the village and more gold than Cleopatra would wear at a state function .

I asked the owner of the most expensive venue in samui (bar fine 700 split 50/50,fee for dancing a few hundred a night,absolute minimum 2000 directly to the girl,many3500 .) what the girls earned a month .Peak season 80-90k for the top girls 25-35 for the rest .Low season half at best .It is the busiest bar on the main strip .

So c'mon bar owners .What do the girls earn here on a monthly year round average ?

Bet it is a pittance considering the nature of the job .

Not thinking of changing trades,just curious .

Crazy 88

[sandman67]

Crazy 88

the going rate here in HH is 1000bht a night high season or low....so the most a lass is looking at earning in cash would be 30K or so a month IF she worked every night....which is unlikely. Even the busiest lasses in HH probably work 20 or so days a month....not easy work but relatively high earnings for lasses who left school at 14 and have families to support.

The smart ones save money and/or meet a boyfriend and eventually take up another trade.

This bit I dont understand....

Take away the fact that a lot of soft twats pull girls off a pole in bar and tell all their mates they met them in a department store/optician shop

In answer I would say that as most folks are bigoted against prostitution then that makes sense.....tell em she was a bar girl and they treat her badly. Thats fact. My mates back home are fine examples.....every time I go home its the same cliched comments....

An ex of mine was an escort in the UK. She made a small fortune from the trade, eventually packing up her normal day job as a fundraising manager to concentrate on her escorting work.

Now what do you think she told our mates and families....that she was an escort or a fundraiser?

Even here being a bargirl carries a stigma. Thats wrong, as they are usually working as its the only option to pay off debts/support families....but its a fact and it wont be changing any time soon.

As an aside my answer to my mates hackneyed jokes is this......"hands up anyone who has never paid for sex......LIARS!"

One more thing....which bar is that? Id love to see what a 700bht bar fine/3500bht a night bar lass looks like

[crazy88]

Fair comments Sandman .
Might not go down too well at the church fete I agree (be a lot of hypocrisy floating in the air as you rightly point out.)Many of my friends have returned home to the same reactions with TG/wife .

Bars were GB Lounge and Dreamgirls .Soi Green Mango Chaweng .I do not know if either are still there or if expat regulars get better rates .



Crazy 88

[BaaBaa.]

Id love to see what a 700bht bar fine/3500bht a night bar lass looks like

Anna Kournikova with a Jap hanging off her arm.

[redzonerocker]

Id love to see what a 700bht bar fine/3500bht a night bar lass looks like

& i'd love to know what she can do that a 300bht bar fine /1000bht bar girl can't??

[johnnyk]

excellent backhand

[migrant]

Now what do you think she told our mates and families....that she was an escort or a fundraiser?

Almost the same thing anyway

[Big Boy]

sandman67 wrote:

the going rate here in HH is 1000bht a night high season or low

This discussion is probably more appropriate to Night Crawlers, but the question is, "How many times per night can they earn that? Even in low season."

I normally sit quietly in the corner of bar people watching. I've often seen the same girl go off with different men on the same night. Those that work really hard can go 3 or 4 times in an evening.

[richard]

I think this should all go to night crawlers

BB I agree. Many earn a lot of money

I know one girl who regularly scores 3 short time a night and has been known to have 4 short time and 1 long time in 24 hours

Then you get the girls who get bought out for 2 weeks for a trip south to the islands

I also know ones that score once a month if they are lucky

If they are reasonably attractive, learn some English or German and project some humour and personality and are not too pushy, they do well

If any of you have seen the alternative lifestyle and earnings in the villages from where they come from you'd understand their reasoning

Their view as a Bhuddist is that your body is superfluous. Making people happy is good

[DawnHRD]

I don't think it's fair to the OP to move this thread - which has meandered considerably from it's original course - to night crawlers. However, I do agree that a discussion of this nature should be there. Perhaps any of you interested in the prices charged by bar girls & what service is provided for that, should start a thread discussing that there, and the rest of us get

[yabz]

One thing that is different and which you can't role reverse is the fact that there are a lot more young women in this country than young men.

According to Wikipedia:

Sex ratio for Thailand:
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.05 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 0.98 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.83 male(s)/female
total population: 0.98 male(s)/female (2008 est.)

[Wanderlust]

yabz,
Thanks for those statistics but they really don't prove a point either way because of the way they have been compiled; the age group 15 - 64 is too wide for what we are talking about; really we would need the breakdown for about 20 to 40 I think. It is interesting to note though the difference between birth ratios and the over 15 figures, which indicates a lot of male deaths after 15. This might be normal but it strikes me as being odd - it would be interesting to compare this with road death statistics which I suspect might be the reason. It is also entirely possible that these figures are inaccurate, even though the source is the CIA (wikipedia have rounded the figures too - the actual ones are: Sex ratio: at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.047 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 0.976 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.834 male(s)/female
total population: 0.979 male(s)/female (2007 est.))
For anyone that is confused by these, it represents a ratio of the number of males for every 100 females, so in the 15 - 64 age group in 2007 there were estimated to be 97.6 males for every 100 females..

[kendo]

Especially as many of the farangs you are talking about are with women that Thai men would not find desirable, believe it or not.

Thats how I see it also, many Thai guys prefer the pale skinned Bangkok types, not the dark skinned Issan types!

These pale skinned Bangkok types,very stuck up,they regard the dark skinned Issan Thai's as a much lower class because they are rural farmers thats why they are obsessed with sun cream, the more pale you are the more rich you are !

[ADW]

The statistic don't really help much, need to know what percentage of males are gay or transexual.......

[Super Joe]

One thing that is different and which you can't role reverse is the fact that there are a lot more young women in this country than young men

ive always wondered about that too wanderlust, and didn't know if was due to the places i normally stay are tourist resorts with a higher percentage of females. which is nice
whatever the case is, the point about thai men having enough ladies to socialise with is valid to us in hua hin, due the higher percentage of ladies here

The statistic don't really help much, need to know what percentage of males are gay or transexual

too right, the amount of young thai lads ive seen on the quiet picking up katoeys staggers me
they're your typical motorbike gang lads, who you rarely see openly with katoeys
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