too many falang complain about being done, she's this, she's that etc.
i can play but she can't etc etc.
they seldom look in the mirror
good points johnny,
when a farang marries a bar lady, if taken care of, she is usually very loyal. most of the time happy to stay home with you, go to restaurants, movies etc
but after marriage the farang carries on where the lady left off, spending every waking moment in bars, sleeping with everyone he can
I suppose that we are all architects of our own situation. If it goes south then just mark down to experience and don't go on about it too much, which can lead to confusion and denile. Nobody gets it right all the time. He/she that has never f...ked up, knows nothing apart from second hand information.
Yes im still about , just havnt been on the site for a long time . Heres a very shortened version of events...
Yes I returned to Thailand for 2 and a half weeks in Jan. to take a gamble with that girl !... I hired a car in BK , she met me at airport , drove to HuaHin to meet her family and stuff , an was then travelling north to Chang Mai , stopping on the way having fun , site seeing , and getting to know each other .
It was all going swimmingly , till after one week , until she couldnt resist her mobile phone , and her boyfriend from England rang and I found her hiding talking to him expressing her love for him and how she "missed him mak mak" , words that seemed familiar to me !
Well the argument ensued , I was rational and calm thru out , she ranted and raved and told me how much she loved me etc etc etc. , anyway I wasnt goin to let this ruin my holiday , so I told her I forgave her , and decided to see out the holiday with her , and then forget her.
We carried on, and I was looking forward to geting her back to HuaHin , and saying goodbye , as we got closer night by night back to HH , she was sneaking off on her phone again , and I wasnt taking a chance of being set up for something , as I think she knew she wouldnt hear from me after I went home.
So last night before HH , got a hotel not far from HH for the night , and we sat out and probably had our best night together, and sat outside our room on the beach and had some drinks and talked and watched the sun go down. But I had made my mind up , and with 2 nights left I was expectin something from her family who she had told me were "suspect" ,
so I packed my bags in the middle of the night and jumped in the car and headed of. Am I proud of this ... no , but I made a judgement call for me.
So that was that, I need not tell u the phone text and calls I got after , but I remained strong for me, and seen out my last few days on the beach in Tao Takib drinkin and relaxin.
It hasnt dampened my spirit for Thailand and all things Thai , Im returning in September for 5 weeks , I am about to post a topic on teaching english in LoS , I have been looking at this company "responsibletravel" and a program they have in North Thailand for this , it costs £350 for a week , but for whats in it I think most of the money will be going to the tour company , Id rather do it cheaper thru a Thai company , and spend the rest in the comunity I stay in , heres details and if you know anything about this , please read my other mail regarding subject .
Thanks
Fugazi
"""Hi
OK, it looks as if things are still somewhat uncertain in the Um Phang area but we have now received more details about another school which is desperate for some assistance and might be of some interest. They are located about 90 minutes drive from Chiang Mai so quite a good area for exploring the north in general and of course, if you wanted us to help arrange some additional sightseeing either before or after volunteering, we'd be pleased to come up with some suggestions.
The cost would be GBP 350 per week to include basic homestay accommodation, all meals and English speaking assistance but not including transfers, although again, we'll be happy to assist with these as required. I've attached a document with a few more details but of course, if there is anything else you would like to know, please don't hesitate to ask.
As you will hopefully appreciate, this particular school is a new venture for us and there may still be a few minor details that need sorting out even once you arrive but, whatever happens, you will have all the support you should need so if you're up for a bit of an adventure, perhaps this might be the trip for you? I do hope it's of interest and will look forward to hearing any further thoughts you may have.
Warm Regards
Fugazi wrote:It hasnt dampened my spirit for Thailand and all things Thai , Im returning in September for 5 weeks , I am about to post a topic on teaching english in LoS , I have been looking at this company "responsibletravel" and a program they have in North Thailand for this , it costs £350 for a week , but for whats in it I think most of the money will be going to the tour company , Id rather do it cheaper thru a Thai company , and spend the rest in the comunity I stay in , heres details and if you know anything about this , please read my other mail regarding subject .
Eerm. So 'responsibletravel' want you to pay them 21,000 baht (approx.) to have the privilege of staying in a basic Thai house and teaching at a school? You're havin' a larf....or are you? I'll be really interested to read your topic about teaching English (with a capital 'E') in the Land of Smiles.
VS
"Properly trained, man can be a dog's best friend"
Fugazi,
Sorry to hear that it turned out as many thought it might, but at least you found out for sure and can put that behind you. Can't advise on your other plans but good luck with whatever you do, and i hope next time you meet a girl they turn out to be what you hope for.
Regardless of everything else, can I clarify just one thing from the end of your post - you want to pay someone 350 quid a week for the privilege of teaching English in a rural area for a few weeks?
Get yourself over here, sort out somewhere you like, get some cheap accommodation, and you'll be very welcome as a volunteer anywhere - once you're here it'll cost you no more than 500 quid total for 5 weeks, probably less, for what you'll get from this company.
but we have now received more details about another school which is desperate for some assistance and might be of some interest. They are located about 90 minutes drive from Chiang Mai so quite a good area for exploring the north in general and of course, if you wanted us to help arrange some additional sightseeing either before or after volunteering, we'd be pleased to come up with some suggestions.
The cost would be GBP 350 per week to include basic homestay accommodation, all meals and English speaking assistance but not including transfers, although again, we'll be happy to assist with these as required. I've attached a document with a few more details but of course, if there is anything else you would like to know, please don't hesitate to ask.
As you will hopefully appreciate, this particular school is a new venture for us and there may still be a few minor details that need sorting out even once you arrive but, whatever happens, you will have all the support you should need so if you're up for a bit of an adventure,
Do the words 'basic homestay accommodation' (whatever 'homestay' means) not have you quivering with fear? Are you going to have a car to drive the '90 minutes' to Chiang Mai? 'All meals'??? If that includes breakfast and you happen to be a fan of fish soup with rice at 7 a.m. then I wish you well.
Whether you're a volunteer or even paying for the privilege, you're technically working without a work permit, which leaves you open to deportation at the very least, whatever the company tells you.
Read between the lines - the 'help' they offer amounts to bugger all.
a few minor details that need sorting out
Hell's teeth, do these words not set alarm bells ringing??? If that's what they're saying, what on earth do you think the real situation is?
If you can afford...
a. the ticket
b. 2-3k GBP for 5 weeks
c. and you want to do something worthwhile with your trip
...then please do a bit more research, and either save yourself some money or give it to a better cause.
I don't mean to sound negative, but I'm not sure you have any idea what you're considering.
Good luck, and whatever you do, I hope it works out well for you.
Fugazi. The sms and email/msn sessions are a bit of a giveaway, Congrats for... ahem... getting off lightly.
Just one thing to consider. Many girls will maintain other relationships until such time as they are sure about you. It's a pragmatic attitude that is understandable considering the number of 'bagwans' that promise undying love and never come back. Bit like keyboard romeos on dating sites who string girls along, for an ego trip, then fail to follow through on promises. It's a huge waste of time for a girl and ruins it for genuine seekers.
I had one g/f and made her send 'dear john' messages to every foreigner in her mobile and email address book. I never intended it to be long term but it was long enough where I didn't want the whispered calls in the bathroom. A girl is either with me 100% or I'm not going to play. But that's just me.
As to finding a good one, mine cooks like a star, can shimmy up a jackfruit tree like nothing I've ever seen, didn't speak a word of 'Engrish' (a good sign) when I met her and has never asked me for a penny for her family. She does everything and won't let me in the kitchen.
Have to admit to being shocked by the number of 50-somethings falling for hard core girls, who have clearly been around the block. They buy them flowers, motorbikes, jewellery, etc. then complain bitterly when the lady scarpers. If this happens to you rest assured there will be another lady along in double quick time to help you forget.
If you do trawl the bars in search of a g/f, look for new girls who have only been there say, less than three weeks, before they have had time to be properly 'schooled' by the other girls. I do like the 'check to see if she can cook' approach.
IMO nothing beats time together. Others will have their own views.
Best of luck.
"Let no one who has the slightest desire to live in peace and quietness be tempted, under any circumstances, to enter upon the chivalrous task of trying to correct a popular error."---William Thoms
Just looked at their website. Read their 'disclaimer' section, here's part of it:
At responsibletravel.com We do not endeavour to sell these holidays direct to you, it is our belief that this is best done by the people who design and operate these holidays.
Because of the service we provide and how we provide it, it is important for you to understand the limitations of our liability.
We do not act as an agent for operators and accommodation owners in the sense that we do not take your money on their behalf. Your contract will be with them and them only and they are fully liable for every aspect of their holiday product that you buy, according to their own terms and conditions. responsibletravel.com do not accept any liability for, or warrant the quality and standard of any of the holidays that you are sold by our holiday providers.
They are selling you someone else's holiday, probably some two-bob company in Thailand that will not provide you with the work permit you need under law.
They are middle men, they have no responsibility at all for your trip or what happens when you get here.
Just one thing to consider. Many girls will maintain other relationships until such time as they are sure about you. It's a pragmatic attitude that is understandable considering the number of 'bagwans' that promise undying love and never come back. Bit like keyboard romeos on dating sites who string girls along, for an ego trip, then fail to follow through on promises
Totally agree Mr. P
IMO no farang has the right to have a go at them about this UNTIL that farang makes a firm committment to the girl.
They're keeping her options open. They do it BECAUSE OF US mucking them about, telling em we love them and we're coming back out to see them soon. We want to keep them dangling on the hook because we can and we're sooooo important.
Then IF we come back out we see them for one night before shacking up with their best mate.
We farangs are far bigger ho's than they'll ever be. We're the one's with the issues, they are simple people who want a simple life.
When farangs make a committment to them and look after them half-decently they are more faithful than a miniature poodle.
SJ
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MrPlum wrote:
I had one g/f and made her send 'dear john' messages to every foreigner in her mobile and email address book. I never intended it to be long term but it was long enough where I didn't want the whispered calls in the bathroom. A girl is either with me 100% or I'm not going to play. But that's just me.
As to finding a good one, mine cooks like a star, can shimmy up a jackfruit tree like nothing I've ever seen, didn't speak a word of 'Engrish' (a good sign) when I met her and has never asked me for a penny for her family. She does everything and won't let me in the kitchen.
Well, Mr Plum, in view of your previous posts, I thought you were a free thinker - "a good one", etc. ??? - somehow I feel let down.
IMO nothing beats time together. Others will have their own views.
Thanks for the replies , I do realise the "responsibletravel" thing is very suspect at £350 a go , thats why I was asking did anyone have any knowledge of arranging it from the Thai end , its very hard to find anything on the net from the Thai end.
I do know they are taking the piss with what they are asking for, would appreciate any help on this.
Cheers
Fugazi
dtaai-maai wrote:
Well, Mr Plum, in view of your previous posts, I thought you were a free thinker - "a good one", etc. ??? - somehow I feel let down.
You are right. How far I have fallen.
'Good' is entirely subjective. Since I've married dumb blondes and smart executives and dated a myriad in between, for me, the shimmying-up-a-jackfruit tree variety definitely comes out on top. My days of needing a socially acceptable or intellectual equal for a wife have been sacrificed for that utterly selfish goal... contentment. At least for now. Who knows what the future holds.
Or have I misunderstood you?
If so, put it down to having an off day and let's not clutter the thread.
"Let no one who has the slightest desire to live in peace and quietness be tempted, under any circumstances, to enter upon the chivalrous task of trying to correct a popular error."---William Thoms
