Political un-rest and rally
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At least one web site is alleging that there is a British involvement...
http://www.larouchepub.com/pr/2010/1004 ... risis.html[/quote]
Er, you mean only one web site. Strangely enough, it is the website of Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr, who also believes that US politics is controlled by British spies, that Queen Elizabeth 2nd is the leader of an international drugs running cartel and that the Oklahoma bombings were initiated by the British government as part of a plan to invade and 're-take' the USA!
Edit: You beat me to it Sarge!
http://www.larouchepub.com/pr/2010/1004 ... risis.html[/quote]
Er, you mean only one web site. Strangely enough, it is the website of Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr, who also believes that US politics is controlled by British spies, that Queen Elizabeth 2nd is the leader of an international drugs running cartel and that the Oklahoma bombings were initiated by the British government as part of a plan to invade and 're-take' the USA!
Edit: You beat me to it Sarge!
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hmmmmm
or would the heavily armed and obviously military trained men in black be the ex-ranger mates of the shabby terrorist Maj Gen Sae Daeng...who has already gone on record stating he knows who it was?
Protesters carry placards, march and protest.
Terrorists carry guns and bombs, take hostages, and invade buildings.
So
what are the reds now then?
as to that site..... laugh? I nearly crapped myself!
what does Alex Jones think....maybe its some owls

or would the heavily armed and obviously military trained men in black be the ex-ranger mates of the shabby terrorist Maj Gen Sae Daeng...who has already gone on record stating he knows who it was?
Protesters carry placards, march and protest.
Terrorists carry guns and bombs, take hostages, and invade buildings.
So
what are the reds now then?
as to that site..... laugh? I nearly crapped myself!
what does Alex Jones think....maybe its some owls

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Yep, AKA Ronin Warriors.sandman67 wrote:hmmmmm
or would the heavily armed and obviously military trained men in black be the ex-ranger mates of the shabby terrorist Maj Gen Sae Daeng...who has already gone on record stating he knows who it was?
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When he says that Hollywood and the U.S. stock market are owned by Arabs, you have to ask which team he's batting for? Search for 'Alex Jones shill' and you will get the idea. The pity is he has so many supporters who passionately believe in him. I put him and them in the category of 'controlled opposition'.sandman67 wrote:what does Alex Jones think
Where's all the money and organization coming from to finance this highly organized opposition? Thaksin alone? I think not. We have seen these colour revolutions sweep through many countries. Who financed and organized them? Anyone? Could it be the same players operating here, with Thaksin the greedy stooge?
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try watching PTV (I have every single day its been unmuzzled and not gagged) and you will hear the leaders reading out the donations how much and who has donated whatWhere's all the money and organization coming from to finance this highly organized opposition?
in food drink and cash every day and from 300 Bt from an 80+year old up to 200,000 Bt
lets not let the truth interfere with a new conspiracy theory
and please remember people have died here for what they believe in
The numbers at the two main sites on monday after saturday nights disgrace should tell you these people are not there for money
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Blindly following any of the propaganda TV channels is a waste of time, they all spout whatever numbers they want in order to convince the masses.
The man who orchestrated the whole thing whose name begins with T certainly is though! If they could distance themselves from him they maybe taken more seriously, until then they're just fighting for his return which isn't going to happen for a while. If it does the country will be plunged into a bigger mess than it is already - its a no win situation regardless of what colour shirt you're wearing.sargeant wrote: The numbers at the two main sites on monday after saturday nights disgrace should tell you these people are not there for money
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I don't watch TV nor do I wish to. You can watch distortions from the reds or distortions from the yellows. If you know who fired the first shot and who sanctioned it, you'll impress more.sargeant wrote:try watching PTV (I have every single day its been unmuzzled and not gagged) and you will hear the leaders reading out the donations how much and who has donated whatWhere's all the money and organization coming from to finance this highly organized opposition?
in food drink and cash every day and from 300 Bt from an 80+year old up to 200,000 Bt
lets not let the truth interfere with a new conspiracy theory
and please remember people have died here for what they believe in
The numbers at the two main sites on monday after saturday nights disgrace should tell you these people are not there for money
There is a difference between being paid to attend and those attending out of sympathy for those who died. As for those dying for what they believe in, I don't need the implied guilt trip, thanks. A tragic waste of life, for the benefit of a man who has shown his sole interest is not in 'the people' but himself.
Questions as to who is jockeying for power and position are never ending in the media. My question is one many would ask. Is there any relation between the colour revolutions in LOS and elsewhere in the world? Your answer tells me you don't know. Major powers will naturally have a keen interest in who runs the country and will wish to be backing the right pony. It's a little more complicated in Thailand with the elites looking out for themselves but when have outside interests NOT had a hand in every revolution?

I do feel for the Thai poor. The disparity in wealth in this country is shocking.
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The government will find it difficult to go after the unidentified armed men it claims are working with the red shirts unless they can be lured out of hiding, a security source says.
Security authorities on Tuesday released this picture of a man they say is an outsider who shot soldiers on Saturday.
The source said the group whom Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has called ''terrorists'' would not be an easy target for security forces to arrest even under normal circumstances.
Says a lot for the Thai investigation process when Bangkok Post show pictures of "someone of interest" and then identifies him as a former Ranger with links to the rural leaders and then says that it will be difficult to find and apprehend him. Give me a break. Are they that incompetent or is this some form of cover up and dare I say it a "red herring"??
Security authorities on Tuesday released this picture of a man they say is an outsider who shot soldiers on Saturday.
The source said the group whom Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has called ''terrorists'' would not be an easy target for security forces to arrest even under normal circumstances.
Says a lot for the Thai investigation process when Bangkok Post show pictures of "someone of interest" and then identifies him as a former Ranger with links to the rural leaders and then says that it will be difficult to find and apprehend him. Give me a break. Are they that incompetent or is this some form of cover up and dare I say it a "red herring"??
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just been informed wifes nephew a sergeant in the thai military is in hospital injured in saturdays clashes not life threatening thank god
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charlesh,
I interpret him being hard to find by security forces difficult because of a few reasons;
1) The Thai security forces are mostly sympathetic to these Red Shirts.
2) The discipline they showed while confronting these crowds by shaking hands and letting their guards down show they are very 'loose' and ill disciplined.
3) In their local towns they surely would have the advantage
4) Thailand lacks the 'modern' resources to form a proper man hunt
The only thing going against him is that he and his 'pals' killed other soldiers, but somehow, I cant see that message getting through when they cant even see how the Reds are damaging the country.
Sad really.
I interpret him being hard to find by security forces difficult because of a few reasons;
1) The Thai security forces are mostly sympathetic to these Red Shirts.
2) The discipline they showed while confronting these crowds by shaking hands and letting their guards down show they are very 'loose' and ill disciplined.
3) In their local towns they surely would have the advantage
4) Thailand lacks the 'modern' resources to form a proper man hunt
The only thing going against him is that he and his 'pals' killed other soldiers, but somehow, I cant see that message getting through when they cant even see how the Reds are damaging the country.
Sad really.
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http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews ... ing-angers
The entire matter has entered the realm of the bizarre.
Pete.
The entire matter has entered the realm of the bizarre.



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That article states the "watermelon soldiers" were the unknown gunmen fighting the Army.
That isn't the same as.....However, the red-shirt demonstrators believe that “water-melon” soldiers,terminology used to explain unknown armed men that fought against the government troops at Kok Wua intersection on Saturday evening, were on their side.
Both from the Bangkok Post.Among the rapidly expanding glossary born of this prolonged political conflict, the term "watermelon army" or "watermelon soldier" is one of the most catchy. It means soldiers who may be wearing a green uniform but are actually rooting for the red shirts: green outside and red inside, just like a watermelon.
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copied from BKK POST Breaking news
Citizens possessing army weapons taken from troops or abandoned during last weekend’s clashes between government security forces and anti-government protesters are urged to return them to the authorities or police, an army spokesman said Wednesday.
Col Sansern Kaewkamnerd, speaking for the Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES), told a press conference a number of weapons used by security forces during the clashes were missing while a certain amount of them was seized by the protesters, said Col Sansern.
Army officials are now conducting inventories of missing weapons and will then report the loss to police.
Those who now possess the weapons should return them because such possession is illegal, he said. The army is concerned that the weapons could be used by ill-intentioned people later for actions which could be mistakenly credited to the army
I wonder if off record he said "we need them for the next set too"
just how
does it get
Citizens possessing army weapons taken from troops or abandoned during last weekend’s clashes between government security forces and anti-government protesters are urged to return them to the authorities or police, an army spokesman said Wednesday.
Col Sansern Kaewkamnerd, speaking for the Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES), told a press conference a number of weapons used by security forces during the clashes were missing while a certain amount of them was seized by the protesters, said Col Sansern.
Army officials are now conducting inventories of missing weapons and will then report the loss to police.
Those who now possess the weapons should return them because such possession is illegal, he said. The army is concerned that the weapons could be used by ill-intentioned people later for actions which could be mistakenly credited to the army





I wonder if off record he said "we need them for the next set too"
just how




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It's certainly a very messy picture.
I've seen one news report from saturday that showed a Red shirt throw a petrol bomb at one of these mysterious gunmen so it's hard to tell exactly who they're fighting for.
I've seen one news report from saturday that showed a Red shirt throw a petrol bomb at one of these mysterious gunmen so it's hard to tell exactly who they're fighting for.
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I dont care what colour shirt you wear, a mob is a mob, and you NEVER negotiate with a mob.
As the great journalist, commentator and liberal reformer Horace Greely said during the Draft Riots in America:
There is no form reasoned negotiation that a violent mob will understand. You must speak to them in their own language. Give them grape, grape and more grape.
(he was advocating using cannon and grapeshot against an equally violent and armed mob that was in the process of destroying New York at that time).
Read them the riot act, then send in the troops. If they want blood, give it them in bucketloads.
Arrest all the leaders and slam them away.
Democracy rests in the hands of the electorate and parliament. NOT an armed mob of terrorists.
As the great journalist, commentator and liberal reformer Horace Greely said during the Draft Riots in America:
There is no form reasoned negotiation that a violent mob will understand. You must speak to them in their own language. Give them grape, grape and more grape.
(he was advocating using cannon and grapeshot against an equally violent and armed mob that was in the process of destroying New York at that time).
Read them the riot act, then send in the troops. If they want blood, give it them in bucketloads.
Arrest all the leaders and slam them away.
Democracy rests in the hands of the electorate and parliament. NOT an armed mob of terrorists.
"Science flew men to the moon. Religion flew men into buildings."
"To sin by silence makes cowards of men."
"To sin by silence makes cowards of men."