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n the case of a schoolgirl delivery van colliding with a multipurpose van and a sedan, the incident occurred on Highway 115, Muang Phichit – Saksaklek District. Pa Makab Subdistrict, Mueang Phichit District, with schoolchildren in elementary and junior and senior secondary levels. 18 people were injured, 2 were killed and two were in the ICU.

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My guess on this: The van 'hogging' the outside lane. The sedan attempted to 'undertake' as the van decided to change lanes causing the sedan to hit the van forcing it into oncoming traffic on the other side.
I would assume that the van driver was switching lanes without checking his nearside mirror.

I'm often forced to undertake but I always sound my horn hopefully to let the guy in the outside lane be aware that I'm coming.

The only true innocent party imo is the SUV driver.
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HHTel wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:40 pm My guess on this: The van 'hogging' the outside lane. The sedan attempted to 'undertake' as the van decided to change lanes causing the sedan to hit the van forcing it into oncoming traffic on the other side.
I would assume that the van driver was switching lanes without checking his nearside mirror.

I'm often forced to undertake but I always sound my horn hopefully to let the guy in the outside lane be aware that I'm coming.

The only true innocent party imo is the SUV driver.
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I deleted my post since the sedan driver said she overtook the van on the left and hit the left side, meaning there wasn't an undertake. Either way, a tragic loss.
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If she overtook the van on the left side then hit the van on the left, she has to be doing an 'undertake'.

If you look at the van, the major damage is on the left.
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Cannot find this elsewhere. A good photo advertisement for how crash worthy a Pajero Sport is:

Cops in crosshairs over "delayed" sobriety test.

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Bentley driver charged with drunk driving granted bail at 100,000 baht

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Under pressure police finally charged a Bentley driver with drunk driving for causing a three-car crash. After much public criticism and deliberation, police charged the driver because he refused to take a breathalyser test in the first place. The driver was reported to have been granted bail of 100,000 baht yesterday.

Suthat Siwapiromrat, the millionaire Bentley driver who caused the three-car collision on an expressway in Bangkok last Sunday, was initially charged with driving recklessly.

The issue over Suthat’s alcohol level started after a wine bottle was spotted in his car. He refused to take a breathalyser test at the police station saying he had pain in the chest and could not blow.

Suthat finally took a test at a hospital. The alcohol content in his system was released by the hospital yesterday, almost three days after the incident. It showed only 0.01%, which means he was not drunk while driving on that day according to Thai law.

The deputy commissioner and spokesperson of the Metropolitan Police Bureau, Jirasan Kaewsaeng-ek, announced the conclusion of the charges against Suthat yesterday.

Jirasan confirmed that Suthat was charged under Section 43(2) of the Criminal Law: driving under the influence of alcohol.

Jirasan explained that Suthat’s blood alcohol content was under the limit, but he refused to take the breathalyser test after the incident. So, Suthat has been considered drunk according to standard police practice.

In conclusion, Suthat faces three charges including:

Section 43(4) and Section 157 of the Land Transport Act: whoever drives recklessly or dangerously, and that action causes damage to another person’s assets, shall be punished with a fine from 400 baht to 1,000 baht
Section 390 of the Criminal Law: whoever drives recklessly and causes injuries to another person’s body or mind shall be punished with imprisonment up to one month, a fine up to 10,000 baht, or both
Section 43(2) of the Criminal Law: whoever drives under the influence of alcohol, and the action causes injuries to another person’s body or mind shall be punished with imprisonment from one to five years, a fine of 20,000 to 100,000 baht, and driving licence suspension for at least one year

Suthat was taken to the Bangkok South Criminal Court for temporary imprisonment before he submitted a request for temporary release and was granted bail at 100,000 baht.

Suthat gave an interview with Channel 3 yesterday. He admitted that he drank one or two glasses of sparkling champagne with friends before driving but says he was not drunk at all. He added that the wine bottle found in his car was empty.

Suthat insists that he did not try to avoid the alcohol test. He said he had a pain in his chest and, because everything was in chaos, planned to go back for the test when it was less busy.

Update: Bentley driver cleared of being drunk at the wheel in three-car smash

The blood alcohol test of the Bentley driver, who caused a three-car collision last Sunday, reveals he was not drunk at the time of the pile-up. But, the investigating officer from Expressway Police Station 1 has been criticised for not making the driver take a breathalyser test immediately after the incident.

Suthat Siwapiromrat crashed his grey Bentley sedan into a fire rescue truck and black Mitsubishi Pajero Sport SUV last Sunday at 11pm. The incident left six drivers and passengers injured.

The 53 year old businessman later surrendered to the police on the night of the smash but officers did not ask the driver to take a breathalyser test despite a bottle of wine being found in his Bentley sedan.

The deputy superintendent of Expressway Police Station 1, Phichate Konpaeng, reported to the media that the driver would take a blood alcohol test at the hospital.

This decision made the victims and other Thai netizens question the working processes of the police. Some said the officers facilitated the Bentley driver because he is rich and powerful.

Thai media also released a video into the public domain of when Suthat tried to stall for time and avoid the test. They reported he was drinking a lot of water and chewing bubble gum to hide traces of alcohol in his system.

The commissioner of the Traffic Police Division, Suwitcha Jindakam, reported yesterday that he acknowledged the concerns of victims and other people about the alcohol test.

Suwitcha said the division would investigate the officer in charge of the case from Expressway Police Station 1, whether he worked honestly according to the process or not, and question why the test had not been conducted immediately after the incident.

The deputy commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Bureau, Jirasan Kaewsaeng-ek, explained later that the police did not help the driver.

Jirasan said the Bentley driver had a chest injury and it would have been difficult for him to blow into a breathalyser. The investigating police officer thought the result would be more accurate if he took a blood test.

According to Channel 3, the Police General Hospital’s alcohol test result was released today, and the alcohol content in Suthat’s blood revealed only 0.01% or 10 milligrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood.

The blood alcohol content (BAC) limit for drivers in Thailand is 0.05%, so it was concluded that Suthat was not drunk while driving.

The director of the World Health Organization (WHO) Collaborative Centre, Dr Witthaya Chartbanchachai, revealed via an interview with Channel 3 that a breathalyser testing device is accurate even with a very mild blow. So, the pain in the chest should not be a problem.

Witthaya said that it takes a human body two hours to metabolize 40 milligrams of alcohol. The driver of the Bentley was tested approximately four hours after the accident, so it was anticipated that the alcohol level would have decreased to half of the initial measurement.

Witthaya also noted that the police officers usually considered a driver as being under the influence if they refused to take a breath alcohol test, but this practice appears to be different in this particular case.

The charges and conclusion of the case will be announced later by the Metropolitan Police Bureau.

ORIGINAL STORY: 6 victims injured after Bentley crashes into two cars

A millionaire driver crashed his luxury Bentley car into an SUV and a fire rescue pickup on the Chalerm Maha Nakhon Expressway in Bangkok in the early hours of Sunday, which left six victims injured. The driver fled from the scene and refused to take an alcohol test.

A 53 year old businessman, Suthat Siwapiromrat, crashed his grey Bentley sedan into a fire rescue truck and a black Mitsubishi Pajero Sport SUV after he tried to overtake the two cars on the Chalerm Maha Nakhon Expressway at 1am yesterday, January 8.

One driver and three passengers from the SUV, including a four-year-old child, as well as two firefighters from the fire rescue pickup, were injured. One of the SUV victims suffered a broken arm while the others escaped with minor injuries.

Thai media added that the crash consequently made the firefighters late to tackle a blaze in the Sukhumvit area.

CCTV on the road revealed that Suthat took a taxi and fled the accident scene. The rescuers ran after the taxi, tried to stop him, and demanded he took an alcohol test. He said he was not drunk and left the scene.

The rescue team also informed the media that they found an opened bottle of wine in Suthat’s car.

The deputy superintendent of Expressway Police Station 1, Phichate Konpaeng, gave an interview with the media yesterday. He said the suspect, Suthat, later surrendered himself to the police and is willing to compensate the victims.

Phichate said Suthat was initially charged with violating Section 43(4) and Section 157 of the Land Transport Act: whoever drives recklessly or dangerously, and that action causes damage to another person’s assets, shall be punished with a fine from 400 baht to 1,000 baht.

Suthat was also charged with violating Section 390 of the Criminal Law: whoever drives recklessly and causes injuries to another person’s body or mind shall be punished with imprisonment up to one month, a fine up to 10,000 baht, or both.

The deputy superintendent reported Suthat would undergo a blood test to measure his alcohol level at the hospital. If it is proven he was drunk, police would issue more charges against Suthat.

The victims and Thai netizens were worried that the suspect would use his power and money to escape the charges and pressured the police and relevant departments to process the case transparently.

Thai media reported that Suthat was on the executive board of seven companies in Thailand including two estate agents, including Thaiwattana Asset and Ektaveesin Development, one instant food production named Touch Me Food, three construction material retail companies including Benefit Development, Maga Work Corporation, and Max Trade, and one fresh market operator named Hatairat Complex.
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Nereus wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:11 pm Cannot find this elsewhere. A good photo advertisement for how crash worthy a Pajero Sport is:

Cops in crosshairs over "delayed" sobriety test.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... riety-test
It looks very bad, but the fact that all occupants survived says something!!
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In the UK under these circumstances there are means to find out what the alcohol content would have been at the time of the accident. We called it "countback" and pretty straightforward.
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Translation of the above story

Concrete pillars on the lorry that shaved the poor pick-up driver's head off on additional photos at the link. Click the blue colored box at the bottom of the link for other photos.

22-wheel trailer carrying piling U-turn will send you to the job site. Pickup truck crashes in the middle The car was demolished. The driver died on the spot. Officers rushed in to investigate.

At 6:00 a.m. on January 19, 2023, Lt. Col. Ying Sudarat Buayong, Deputy Inspector (Investigation), Wisai Nua Police Station. Receive a report of a pickup truck colliding with a truck On the 41st Asian Road, going up to Bangkok, at the U-turn point in front of the PTT gas station, km. 9, Moo 6, Thung Kha Sub-district, Mueang District, Chumphon Province, he went to check with the Sai Chon Rescue Rescue Unit, Chumphon Foundation. charity and Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Officers, Chumphon Province.

At the scene, the officers found a 22-wheel tow truck, Hino brand, the header dragging the yellow plate registration number 71-6139 Saraburi, personally towing the yellow plate registration number 72-4702 Saraburi, carrying piles to park in the middle of the road. At the U-turn point, the driver's name is Mr. Krisakorn (reserve his surname), 32 years old, and did not escape anywhere. by standing and waiting for the police officers at the scene

Close to each other, found a 4-door pickup truck, Toyota brand, registration LB 2244, Chumphon, the roof of the car is torn. Equipment, pieces of cars, various demolished and scattered across the road. As for the driver's seat, the deceased was crammed inside the car. The condition of the cushion is flat to the back. The deceased was wearing a seat belt. The air bags on the steering wheel and the sides are working, known as Mr. Apinan (Reserve last name), 53 years old. before removing the body The condition of the front collapsed broken skull broken ribs
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11 killed in burning van after crash:

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From the case of passenger van accident Power Charoen-Bangkok Register 30-0078 Power Charoen Fall in the middle of Friendship Road, km.100, near the restaurant. "Mojabok," said Sikhio, Nakhon Ratchasima province, where the car burst into flames. As a result, only one person in the trapped car escaped. The rest couldn't escape. Eleven bodies were killed and authorities will investigate the exact cause, according to the news release.

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Yes, I saw that on Thai news yesterday - the crossing signal starts at the exact same time as the train arrives.

I watch the video in horror thinking back to my recent trip to Buriram, where they did not have barriers - it was a couple of days before I realised, and started looking/taking necessary care. The morning we left, I did look, and there was a train coming. It's so easily done if you come from an area with barriers, and you're in an area without. All of this money being spent on flyover construction here, but they haven't spent cash on basic safety yet.
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Nereus wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:52 am 11 killed in burning van after crash:

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... fter-clash

From the case of passenger van accident Power Charoen-Bangkok Register 30-0078 Power Charoen Fall in the middle of Friendship Road, km.100, near the restaurant. "Mojabok," said Sikhio, Nakhon Ratchasima province, where the car burst into flames. As a result, only one person in the trapped car escaped. The rest couldn't escape. Eleven bodies were killed and authorities will investigate the exact cause, according to the news release.

https://www.msn.com/th-th/news/national ... 12f47d585e
Initially, it was known that it was likely caused by the main van from overturning and then having oil leaked out of it, coupled with the van travelling for an extended period of time. This caused the heat to spark, causing the fire to flood the van.

The van at the scene was a properly registered van from the Department of Land Transport and had GPS to measure the speed of the van from time to time, which according to GPS investigations showed that at the time of the incident the van was driving at a speed of about 82 kilometers per hour. Before this tragic incident.

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