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We've had the road death discussion many times. Back to Covid-19 please.

Quite right, BB. I got dragged in again....... sorry!

A question to all those doctors, virologues, specialists who are commenting on the spreading of Covid-19 and their advise on protection, how were passengers of cruise ships infected ? Actually 2 aircraft carriers US and French have a certain number of militars tested pos. How were they infected ????

europtimiste wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:14 pm A question to all those doctors, virologues, specialists who are commenting on the spreading of Covid-19 and their advise on protection, how were passengers of cruise ships infected ? Actually 2 aircraft carriers US and French have a certain number of militars tested pos. How were they infected ????

For cruise ships it’s pretty obvious, they generally sail for a day or two, they dock in a port, the passengers get off and mix with the locals and bring it back on board. Although not as frequently, military ships also dock in ports, the crew get off, mix with locals (some get very close) and take the virus(s) back on board.

europtimiste wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:14 pm A question to all those doctors, virologues, specialists who are commenting on the spreading of Covid-19 and their advise on protection, how were passengers of cruise ships infected ? Actually 2 aircraft carriers US and French have a certain number of militars tested pos. How were they infected ????

Not sure what you're expecting. We all know how we catch it. It enters your body through your eyes, nose and mouth. It gets there either by close contact and passed by aerosol or by touching an infected surface then infecting yourself by touching your face.
Cruise ships, aircraft carriers, airplanes, hot air balloons or spacecraft don't catch it any other way.

Worldwide Update (13 April)

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/18988 ... rus-update

Firms sound knell for 10m job toll
Thailand risks unemployment surging to 10 million people if the pandemic lasts another 2-3 months, according to the private sector.

Kalin Sarasin, chairman of the Thai Chamber of Commerce, said up to 7 million workers have been laid off so far, with figures likely to reach 10 million over the next few months if the pandemic continues.

"We hope the number of laid-off workers will not surpass 10 million," he said.

The chamber is asking the government to rev up relief measures for the business sector.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/18 ... m-job-toll

Time to beef up your home security ...

HHTel wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:20 am

europtimiste wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:14 pm A question to all those doctors, virologues, specialists who are commenting on the spreading of Covid-19 and their advise on protection, how were passengers of cruise ships infected ? Actually 2 aircraft carriers US and French have a certain number of militars tested pos. How were they infected ????

Not sure what you're expecting. We all know how we catch it. It enters your body through your eyes, nose and mouth. It gets there either by close contact and passed by aerosol or by touching an infected surface then infecting yourself by touching your face.
Cruise ships, aircraft carriers, airplanes, hot air balloons or spacecraft don't catch it any other way.

For ships docking and passengers or crew mixing with locals is understandable, but the US aircraft carrier was on mission in the Pacific and the French one in North Atlantic. Where did they dock ? Did the ocean breeze carried the virus to the ships ? Strange.

The US carrier Theodore Roosevelt visited Da Hang, Vietnam, where some crew stayed in a hotel which had had some covid-19 infections.

^^ Da Nang!!

hhinner wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:20 am The US carrier Theodore Roosevelt visited Da Hang, Vietnam, where some crew stayed in a hotel which had had some covid-19 infections.

The aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle docked from 13th. to 15th. March at Brest, later sailed for a mission to North Atlantic. If some crew members were infected must be in Brest.

europtimiste wrote:

hhinner wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:20 am The US carrier Theodore Roosevelt visited Da Hang, Vietnam, where some crew stayed in a hotel which had had some covid-19 infections.

The aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle docked from 13th. to 15th. March at Brest, later sailed for a mission to North Atlantic. If some crew members were infected must be in Brest.

So there you have it!!


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Thailand confirms 34 new coronavirus infections; one new fatality
By
Cod Satrusayang
April 14, 2020

Thailand’s government confirmed on Tuesday that it had discovered 34 new coronavirus infections bringing the total number of infected to 2,613

It continues a lowering trend of new infections in the country which the government attributes to its policies.

There was 1 new fatality bringing the death toll to 41. The new fatality was a bus driver in Bangkok.

177 more patients have recovered from the virus bringing the total number of discharged patients to 1,405.

“The numbers have increased from yesterday which means we have to keep vigilant,” said government spokesman Dr Thaweesin Visanuyothin. “The number of recoveries has also increased which means there are now more hospital beds available, which is a good thing."

https://www.thaienquirer.com/11369/thai ... -fatality/

Fearful of virus return, Beijing turns into virtual fortress

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/18995 ... l-fortress

BEIJING: Beijing has virtually walled itself off to outsiders with drastic measures to protect China's seat of power against the threat of a second wave of coronavirus infections from other regions.

After largely getting the outbreak under control, China has banned foreigners from entering the country as authorities fret over an increase in cases imported from abroad -- though most have been Chinese citizens.

But Beijing has gone a step further, imposing a strict 14-day quarantine on people arriving from other parts of China, regardless of whether they test negative for Covid-19 -- a measure not required in other cities.

Beijing, of course, is not like any other Chinese city.

The ruling Communist Party postponed its once-a-year congress, known as the "two sessions", in March and experts said it likely wants to make sure the thousands of delegates who participate are not at risk before a new date is set.

"Strengthening management of people returning to Beijing has become the most critical priority, otherwise it is impossible to create the right conditions for the two sessions to start," said Ma Liang, a professor at Renmin University's School of Public Administration and Policy.

The measures are ultimately meant to shield the Communist Party elite from the virus, said Alfred Wu, associate professor at the National University of Singapore's Lee Kwan Yew School of Public Policy.

"In this moment, the central government and core leadership are highly protected, so ordinary people will have to pay the price," he told AFP.

- Wuhan stigma -
Beijing has imposed a mandatory 14-day quarantine on all returning students, who must test negative to attend school. All hotel guests must test negative within seven days prior to their stay.

The measures have already deterred some from going back.

Chen Na, a carer from Anhui province, cannot return to her former employer in Beijing because her area was labelled "high-risk".

"When they see where I'm from, the conversation stops. I can't even get an interview. I've been out of work since February," she said.

But the toughest conditions are reserved for people travelling to Beijing from Wuhan, the central city where the virus first emerged late last year.

Those leaving the city, whose months-long lockdown was lifted April 8, must test negative within seven days before their return date, undergo a 14-day quarantine once they arrive, and test negative again in order to be released.

Other cities only require those from Wuhan and Hubei province to produce a green health code on a special app and a negative nucleic acid test result.

They must first request to return to Beijing through an app when they receive their negative diagnosis.

If approved, they have to submit another request to purchase train tickets to the capital, which are limited to 1,000 seats per day on two services.

"I originally bought tickets for the 12th, but I was told on the evening of the 7th that I needed a negative test result in order to return," said Wuhan resident Liu Shiyi, who arrived in Beijing by train on Sunday.

One day before her train was due to leave, her residential compound said she needed to obtain a paper copy of her negative certificate from the hospital.

"The whole time, my compound received orders from above in a very delayed fashion, making me waste time going back and forth," she said.

- Special lanes -
At two major Wuhan train stations, AFP saw that special lanes for Beijing-bound travellers had been set up and were crewed by several volunteers.

There are an estimated 11,000 Beijing residents stranded in Wuhan, officials said last week, but the city has lately seen a surge in asymptomatic cases which are notoriously difficult to detect.

During a recent visit to the Beijing West Railway Station, AFP saw that arrivals from Hubei were handled in a separate area and boarded designated buses bound for each district.

Between April 8 and April 13, some 1,037 people returned to Beijing from Wuhan. None tested positive for Covid-19.