WL you are correct about 1972 having the 11 plus but it wasnt called that and it wasnt the same the 11 plus was exams and pass or fail on those exams alone, by the time you got there the system had dramatically changed as for my son as i understood, it was his school results from start of primary school right through were taken into account as well as, the as you call it 11 plus (dirty filthy word it was in 1958)
I was just unfortunate and so were the kids for the next couple of years that were directly under the axe because there was no transition and the move was political and it was corrupt and i mean corrupt. I assure you in 1958 there were no nil tests in my school it was selection by the teachers in my school as i said i was 15th in my class there were 25 places and yet 2 kids with teacher parents from the class below mine got places. I do not blame the iatrists for the corruption i do blame them for not thinking it through and handing it on a plate to the corrupt
In retrospect I personally think the grammer school system had to go and although the comprehensive system now still has flaws it was the way to go and is light years fairer than what i endured or should i say what my father endured
As for myra hindley exactely in her case it was the defence that said Sane as you and me the prosecution said mad, 99% of the time its the other way round unpalatable to you unacceptable to me and totally unprofessional. profession professional 2 words they like to use to describe themselve. I have volumes of true cime upstairs and hyndly is just a minor drop in the ocean of them blatantly going which way there client defence or prosecution want
So you can rest your feet, if there is any resentment its for my dad as i made my last post i could see the look on his face when he opened and read that letter it was crushed and i will never forget it
Degrees vs Experience vs Street Smarts
WL as my Alzhiemers /bovinespongeyformencepolopathy kicks in i have to read posts others make and particularly the posts i make as my memory is as bad as my steam driven puter.
quote you
"unfortunate because you were not able to fulfil your potential at school; fortunate because you found a career that you may not have gone into otherwise but that suited you;"
Had i had the chance i would at that time have liked to be an Archeologist if i could go back now i think i would go for Forensic Pathologist
But i am happy how my life worked out its been a great life NO regrets
By the way whats your degree
quote you
"unfortunate because you were not able to fulfil your potential at school; fortunate because you found a career that you may not have gone into otherwise but that suited you;"
Had i had the chance i would at that time have liked to be an Archeologist if i could go back now i think i would go for Forensic Pathologist
But i am happy how my life worked out its been a great life NO regrets
By the way whats your degree
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And just to briefly take this slightly off topic, here are some economist jokes...
TOP 10 REASONS TO STUDY ECONOMICS
1. Economists are armed and dangerous: "Watch out for our invisible hands."
2. Economists can supply it on demand.
3. You can talk about money without every having to make any.
4. You get to say "trickle down" with a straight face.
5. Mick Jagger and Arnold Schwarzenegger both studied economics and look how they turned out.
6. When you are in the unemployment line, at least you will know why you are there.
7. If you rearrange the letters in "ECONOMICS", you get "COMIC NOSE".
8. Although ethics teaches that virtue is its own reward, in economics we get taught that reward is its own virtue.
9. When you get drunk, you can tell everyone that you are just researching the law of diminishing marginal utility.
10. When you call 1-900-LUV-ECON and get Kandi Keynes, you will have something to talk about.
A mathematician, an accountant and an economist apply for the same job.
The interviewer calls in the mathematician and asks "What do two plus two equal?" The mathematician replies "Four." The interviewer asks "Four, exactly?" The mathematician looks at the interviewer incredulously and says "Yes, four, exactly."
Then the interviewer calls in the accountant and asks the same question "What do two plus two equal?" The accountant says "On average, four - give or take ten percent, but on average, four."
Then the interviewer calls in the economist and poses the same question "What do two plus two equal?" The economist gets up, locks the door, closes the shade, sits down next to the interviewer and says "What do you want it to equal?"
Q: How has French revolution affected world economic growth?
A: Too early to say.
Q: How many economists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Seven, plus or minus ten.
Q. What's the difference between an economist and a befuddled old man with Alzheimer's?
A. The economist is the one with the calculator.
Economists have forecasted 9 out of the last 5 recessions.
On the first day God created the sun - so the Devil countered and created sunburn. On the second day God created sex. In response the Devil created marriage. On the third day God created an economist. This was a tough one for the Devil, but in the end and after a lot of thought he created a second economist!
A physicist, a chemist and an economist are stranded on an island, with nothing to eat. A can of soup washes ashore. The physicist says, "Lets smash the can open with a rock." The chemist says, "Lets build a fire and heat the can first." The economist says, "Lets assume that we have a can-opener..."
TOP 10 REASONS TO STUDY ECONOMICS
1. Economists are armed and dangerous: "Watch out for our invisible hands."
2. Economists can supply it on demand.
3. You can talk about money without every having to make any.
4. You get to say "trickle down" with a straight face.
5. Mick Jagger and Arnold Schwarzenegger both studied economics and look how they turned out.
6. When you are in the unemployment line, at least you will know why you are there.
7. If you rearrange the letters in "ECONOMICS", you get "COMIC NOSE".
8. Although ethics teaches that virtue is its own reward, in economics we get taught that reward is its own virtue.
9. When you get drunk, you can tell everyone that you are just researching the law of diminishing marginal utility.
10. When you call 1-900-LUV-ECON and get Kandi Keynes, you will have something to talk about.
A mathematician, an accountant and an economist apply for the same job.
The interviewer calls in the mathematician and asks "What do two plus two equal?" The mathematician replies "Four." The interviewer asks "Four, exactly?" The mathematician looks at the interviewer incredulously and says "Yes, four, exactly."
Then the interviewer calls in the accountant and asks the same question "What do two plus two equal?" The accountant says "On average, four - give or take ten percent, but on average, four."
Then the interviewer calls in the economist and poses the same question "What do two plus two equal?" The economist gets up, locks the door, closes the shade, sits down next to the interviewer and says "What do you want it to equal?"
Q: How has French revolution affected world economic growth?
A: Too early to say.
Q: How many economists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Seven, plus or minus ten.
Q. What's the difference between an economist and a befuddled old man with Alzheimer's?
A. The economist is the one with the calculator.
Economists have forecasted 9 out of the last 5 recessions.
On the first day God created the sun - so the Devil countered and created sunburn. On the second day God created sex. In response the Devil created marriage. On the third day God created an economist. This was a tough one for the Devil, but in the end and after a lot of thought he created a second economist!
A physicist, a chemist and an economist are stranded on an island, with nothing to eat. A can of soup washes ashore. The physicist says, "Lets smash the can open with a rock." The chemist says, "Lets build a fire and heat the can first." The economist says, "Lets assume that we have a can-opener..."
Thanks for that WL that explains a lot i promise i wont hold it as a scroll wave i asked for it
I am gonna make a small wager of a beer
I will bet when after a coup de tat a government whose primeminister gets sacked for cooking Riots in the capital the government prevented from operating and now a war with its neighbour you are as baffled as i am how the hell the Thai Bht stays so strong
Economists have forecasted 9 out of the last 5 recessions.
Its a cracker its the way you tell em
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Serge, I must congratulate you on your narrow escape. They almost had you going to University to become one of the
Iatrists or Ologists. Had you become one, you’d now most likely be waving your Degree in the dull feces of the
Great Unwashed, The Common People, The Proletariat and would smugly be thinking yourself right shitty smart, would you not?
Instead you made a daring escape using “Go To Jail / Services Via Juvenile Delinquency” –card and ended up
with an environment you’ve obviously enjoyed, with a career that suited you. So in the end it all turned out well.
So well in fact, that it could surely not have been designed by one of the Iatrists or Ologists.
Anyroad, good on ya m8!
Iatrists or Ologists. Had you become one, you’d now most likely be waving your Degree in the dull feces of the
Great Unwashed, The Common People, The Proletariat and would smugly be thinking yourself right shitty smart, would you not?
Instead you made a daring escape using “Go To Jail / Services Via Juvenile Delinquency” –card and ended up
with an environment you’ve obviously enjoyed, with a career that suited you. So in the end it all turned out well.
So well in fact, that it could surely not have been designed by one of the Iatrists or Ologists.
Anyroad, good on ya m8!
"There's no plausible or convincing reason, certainly no evidential one, to believe that there is such an entity (= deity) and that all observable phenomena, including the cosmological ones... are explicable without the hypothesis; you don't need the assumption."
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I have a joint hons degree and a masters. Ive even got a few paralegal qualifications care of the UK Trading Standards body in odd bits of law....so I guess that would lump me in the ologists/paper wavers camp.
Ive also been pretty lucky in that Ive had a real checkerboard career, mostly in government and intell work for the UK and UN. That said Ive also done temping work in industrial roles, worked in a lab, was a welder, and run businesses including some "interesting" ones like an escort agency. Ive packed a lot into the years Ive had.
During those years Ive worked with, and been mates with, all sorts of people from the brightest and best brains to blokes who could "do an A Team" and cobble up a tank given some pipes, a roller skate, and a box of matches. Ive also learned that both learning AND experience are equally valid and deserve respect. Ive worked with some highly qualified people who I thought were dumb as nuts and had no common nouse.
I think its nouse that gets you ahead...that and a willingness to listen and learn. Experience is king.....you can read all the books you like, but real experience teaches you how to apply that learning.
I think good on you mate for what you achieved...but I just dont get this blanket downer it sounds like you have on Uni educated people.
To me its not whether you have a scroll or a spanner...its how you use them that makes you what you are.... smart or dumb.
I have a joint hons degree and a masters. Ive even got a few paralegal qualifications care of the UK Trading Standards body in odd bits of law....so I guess that would lump me in the ologists/paper wavers camp.
Ive also been pretty lucky in that Ive had a real checkerboard career, mostly in government and intell work for the UK and UN. That said Ive also done temping work in industrial roles, worked in a lab, was a welder, and run businesses including some "interesting" ones like an escort agency. Ive packed a lot into the years Ive had.
During those years Ive worked with, and been mates with, all sorts of people from the brightest and best brains to blokes who could "do an A Team" and cobble up a tank given some pipes, a roller skate, and a box of matches. Ive also learned that both learning AND experience are equally valid and deserve respect. Ive worked with some highly qualified people who I thought were dumb as nuts and had no common nouse.
I think its nouse that gets you ahead...that and a willingness to listen and learn. Experience is king.....you can read all the books you like, but real experience teaches you how to apply that learning.
I think good on you mate for what you achieved...but I just dont get this blanket downer it sounds like you have on Uni educated people.
To me its not whether you have a scroll or a spanner...its how you use them that makes you what you are.... smart or dumb.
"Science flew men to the moon. Religion flew men into buildings."
"To sin by silence makes cowards of men."
"To sin by silence makes cowards of men."
SM i could not agree more
"I think its nouse that gets you ahead...that and a willingness to listen and learn. Experience is king.....you can read all the books you like, but real experience teaches you how to apply that learning."
It is the
that try to use their scrolls as hammers to force their BS at other people that pisses me off
It isnt a downer or even a blanket downer it is specifically aimed at the only on this forum that tried to mislead and BS people and waved his so called degree to try to force his BS and totally false argument
I think if you look at the post a couple before yours you will agree with me what a t
"I think its nouse that gets you ahead...that and a willingness to listen and learn. Experience is king.....you can read all the books you like, but real experience teaches you how to apply that learning."
It is the
that try to use their scrolls as hammers to force their BS at other people that pisses me off It isnt a downer or even a blanket downer it is specifically aimed at the only
on this forum that tried to mislead and BS people and waved his so called degree to try to force his BS and totally false argumentI think if you look at the post a couple before yours you will agree with me what a t
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Just to help you all with your misconceptions (my perception of some peoples perception) of the military I would like to explain a small point which I think you are unaware of
Soldiers are at the forefront of technology 80%+ of all research and technology is aimed at improving the militarys ability to kill at ever further ranges.
It is grunt soldiers that use this technology on a daily basis and are continually updated as it advances
Soldiers are Scientists
Scientists….. Observe,…..Analise,…..And then Experiment& test to destruction
Soldiers….. Observe,…..Analise,…..And then Experiment& test to destruction.
Agreed their experiments are not as wide ranging as Scientists in so much as after Observing and Analising the experiments consist of
Shoot it,….Shell it (artillery)…. Bombard it(Call in the navy)….. or call in the RAF and Bomb the living crap out of it
So dont think soldier think scientist
Soldiers are at the forefront of technology 80%+ of all research and technology is aimed at improving the militarys ability to kill at ever further ranges.
It is grunt soldiers that use this technology on a daily basis and are continually updated as it advances
Soldiers are Scientists
Scientists….. Observe,…..Analise,…..And then Experiment& test to destruction
Soldiers….. Observe,…..Analise,…..And then Experiment& test to destruction.
Agreed their experiments are not as wide ranging as Scientists in so much as after Observing and Analising the experiments consist of
Shoot it,….Shell it (artillery)…. Bombard it(Call in the navy)….. or call in the RAF and Bomb the living crap out of it
So dont think soldier think scientist
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