Yellow book BS or true to open bank acct?

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Re: Yellow book BS or true to open bank acct?

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After all these years I don't have one, and I may never have one with a Thai owned bank.
I use Bangkok Bank and I've never had a problem with them. I originally opened it just to have somewhere to hold some money in Thailand whilst I was looking to buy a vehicle.
Now I find it useful in that before every visit I transfer money for the time I'm there and by the time I leave there is just enough in it to keep the account active.
I have to say that during the last two years there have been times when Thai banks have looked more secure than some UK ones!
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tonymaroni wrote:Just went to the Siam Comm. Bank in the shopping mall. Was denied ability to open a savings acct. She said I need a 'Yellow Book'
What do you think?
I think she may have been right as you were asking to open a 'residents' savings account which, according to Bank of Thailand's guidelines over recent years to prevent Baht speculation, requires certain documentation. In practice commercial banks do allow us to open accounts (and thereby obtain the benefits that go with them) by showing minimal documentation. As she said the manager was not there (think it may need his sign off), go to another bank or go back when he is there, I opened an account in that branch with minimal docs.


Prcscct wrote:There's just something in my head after seeing time and time again all the nonsense that goes on here, that a Thai bank could one morning simply say, we're not here (for you) anymore. No guarantees, no insurance etc. I trust Hong Kong, Japan and Singapore in this part of the world but not Thailand.
Fear not Pete … I believe our funds in Thai banks are fully guaranteed/insured by this government appointed Deposit Protection Agency, so in event of a bank failing we are currently covered for a minimum 50M Baht per commercial bank, ie: if you have 50M in a SCB account, another 50M in a Bangkok Bank account and ditto a Kasikorn account, you get the full 150M back.
Like other countries this amount reduces in the next few years as the financial crisis supposedly lessens, when it does Thailand's insured amount (based on GDP/capita) will still be the highest in Asia, about 1,700% higher than HK/Singapore and 350% than in the US and will fully cover 98.5% of the populations bank accounts. This is not a right for most of us but a benefit granted to us by the commerical banks allowing us to resident accounts.


They dont pay much interest to farangs compared to Thais
The government/Bank of Thailand has no two-tier interest rates for Thais and farangs, and do not advise the commercial banks to practice this. So any difference in rates are down to the commercial bank. I've read they were doing this in the years after the 1997 crash but do they do it now?? I've always had interest paid by BKK, Kasikorn and SCB on basic savings accounts at the same rates as Thais, ditto a Kasikorn fixed-deposit account, just checked the books and all these were pre-getting me getting WP and 'B' visa, so was just on an 'O'.

There's confusion when we look at the banks website rates and on the far right it says 'non-residents 0%', but these aren't the accounts we open, these 'Non-Resident Baht Accounts' are something especially set up by the BoT re: the Baht speculation issue. Do any of you have the basic saving account book that does not show interest added every 6 months or whenever ??

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Yes, I had one. With Krung Thai in Hua Hin where I had to open an account because of new employment a few years back. It was a regular standard savings account. I asked about it and they told me, no interest for aliens.
I also saw a sign once in another branch, but cannot remember which one. One of the banks around the night market. Not a "well known" one. There was a list with various interest rates on the wall stating "aliens account 0%".
But not sure if they mean the above mentioned non-resident account or regular accounts opened by farangs??

Since 1994 I have (had) savings accounts with Bangkok Bank (two), Kasikorn and Siam Commercial and they all yield interest. Krung Thai being the exception here.
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no interest for aliens
I'm surprised they're even allowed to open accounts! :D

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My experiences are similar to Roel's have several accounts with the major banks in HH, my son has similar ones and he definitely gets more interest than me so yes, aliens are penalised with interest rates at some banks. Others are no problem, from experience the Ayudhya bank (the yellow one) is the most "alien friendly" at the moment.

Never been asked for a yellow book though and wouldn't even know what one is!
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buksida wrote:My experiences are similar to Roel's have several accounts with the major banks in HH, my son has similar ones and he definitely gets more interest than me so yes, aliens are penalised with interest rates at some banks.
But these kids accounts, my sons got one, are different products though to the accounts us grown ups get.

I've gone through the major banks and not found any two-tier rates, some banks specifically state the rate for foreigners and Thais are the same, some don't mention it and some are in Thai. They also have varying degrees of documents required to open a 'resident' account, but that seems to go out the window when a branch manager wants your business.

Banks have to publish all their up-to-date rates on the wall of the branch s instructed by the BoT, don't think they'd dare put up there **Savings Account Rate - 2% for Thais, 1% for Foreigners** so don't think anyone should accept a lower rate.

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Well, the Krung Thai did definitely not give me any interest and informed me clearly that it was the bank's policy: no interest for aliens. Another farang who had his account there confirmed also that he did not receive any interest. (Every month he transferred his salary straight into an account with another bank). PS Aliens is a common term used by banks and many Thai government agencies and other authorities.
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Well I opened a Krung Thai bank account with no BS involved.
No yellow book crap etc.
SCB has lost my business for good. After having an account for 8 years.
Vote with your feet, not that Thai businesses seem to care.

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tonymaroni wrote:Vote with your feet, not that Thai businesses seem to care. Aloha, Doc
It must be a "tropical disease" since I see it in every tropical country. BTW, where did that "Aloha" came from!
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TypicallyTropical wrote:
tonymaroni wrote:Vote with your feet, not that Thai businesses seem to care. Aloha, Doc
It must be a "tropical disease" since I see it in every tropical country. BTW, where did that "Aloha" came from!
From the land of Aloha. Hawaii. Lived there 26 years, before moving to Thailand. Palolo Valley, Waimanalo, Kailua-Kona. Still have grown kids back there and get back now and then. Where do you retire to after Hawaii? Thailand I think as I run into a bunch.

I see you are from there too. Whereabouts?

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Kailua-Kona for 20 years now Doc, but in three years I will be following you to the Land of Smiles! :D :D :D
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I know of quite a few former Hawaii residents who have moved to Thailand. I can't figure it out. Must be purely financial as Hawaii seemed to be heaven on earth the dozen or so times I visited. :?
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hhfarang wrote:I know of quite a few former Hawaii residents who have moved to Thailand. I can't figure it out. Must be purely financial as Hawaii seemed to be heaven on earth the dozen or so times I visited. :?
Some people, like me, get island fever after awhile HHF. Unless you live in Honolulu it's very easy to do all there is to do in a year or two. I lived on the other side of the Big Island from TT from 98-04 and even though it's about 286 miles to drive around, the mentality and way of life there just got too sleepy for me. A shame as I love the place, but just need more so to speak. Maybe if I was in my 70's I'd feel differently. Pete :cheers:
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In May, I had no problem opening a bank account at Bank of Ayudhya (yellow bank) and all they wanted was my passport with 90 day visa. Bank is located on corner of Soi 41 and Petchakasem
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Seems the SCB branch in Village market is much more difficult then others.
I wanted transfer some money to another account to settle a bill, couldn't do as no passport with me, just my bank book. So I had to withdraw the amount outside at ATM and payed directly to that other account.

I opened an account last year at SCB at Petchakasem Road just with passport and 30 days visa exemption.
It took just a few minutes, very service oriented.
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