yes, we have deffinately got it wrong in the uk , in many ways the working rules in thailand to look after their own people first is right ! do that in england and you would probably be called a racist
my wife is working in thailand ( though its irregular money ) and we do own our house . so at least thats something , its more still trying to pay off things here in the uk , while living in los that is eating my money ..
its incredibly hard to save money in england now, unlike a few years ago ..
i would rather be in hua hin with my wife anytime than the monotomy of the uk
guess i will have to get the old grey matter working again
Siani - farang chefs are often employed in Thailand because of their special skills in cooking their national food. But they would have to have set up their own companies there - with all that entails including the work permit and Thai staff - or be employed - by hotels for example. (Again with work permit of course.)
The rules are so strict that yes, it is true a farang chef isn't allowed to take cash etc. All they are allowed to do is (maybe) cook but largely train and supervise others.
Some of the tour operators in HH are farang run as well. But aside from being able to communicate more easily with their farang customers, there still have to be Thai staff to do most jobs
BTW I agree with you about aid to India - especially as the Indian government itself has said that it doesn't even WANT UK aid any more!
I know - we all see farang doing jobs. Strictly speaking - apart from teaching - they should only be managing/training/supervising.
margaretcarnes wrote:
The rules are so strict that yes, it is true a farang chef isn't allowed to take cash etc.
Sorry, but I can't get my head around this one .....
To get a work permit, the farang must be guaranteed a salary of at least 50k baht per month, whether he's employed by his own company or someone else.
I understood that the salary could be anything, but he would always be taxed as if he were earning 50,000bt per month?
Certainly many of the tefl teachers aren't on 50,000bt per month!
Teachers are a special case, particularly those in state facilities.
The government does not, of course, have to comply with its own rules and regulations!!
With regard to a work permit there is no minimum salary requirement. Salary can be anything. But in order to obtain a one-year extension of stay you must show immigration that you earn 50,000 or more (OR at least have paid tax over this amount).
We are all living in 'the good old days' of the future.
Roel wrote:With regard to a work permit there is no minimum salary requirement. Salary can be anything. But in order to obtain a one-year extension of stay you must show immigration that you earn 50,000 or more (OR at least have paid tax over this amount).
Yes it is a strange'ish one that the 4 employee rule, and the minimum income rule are both Immigration requirements. This is a lawyers (FWTW) description of the '4 Thai staff' part of it... 'when applying for the visa Extension of Stay, the immigration requires the company to have at least 4 Thai employees (listed in Social Security Fund 3 months prior to the application). This is a compulsory requirement from the Immigration'
Apparently the 'rules' allow for you to have NO Thai employees if you are on a 'Non-O' doing 3 monthly visa runs. And I guess a lower salary too, but in practice I can't imagine the employment dept. issuing a WP on that basis, which I guess is Barry's point.
At first sight those rules on income aren't daft are they SJ? They interpret as saying that Western Europeans, Japanese and North Americans/Canadians are expected to spend more than other nationalities! (Singapore seems an odd one out though) and Eastern Europeans, Afracans, South Americans etc need less to live on.
Which could well be the case. But longer term it could all end in tears as the LOS could be opening the door to a flood of Eastern Europeans etc. Just like the UK really.....
I have never understood why the Thai govt is so lenient with hoards of Indians working here - they are the ones sending money out, at least the working falang spends it all in Thailand.
OscarMike wrote:I have never understood why the Thai govt is so lenient with hoards of Indians working here - they are the ones sending money out, at least the working falang spends it all in Thailand.
I haven't researched but I think the India relationship goes back a very long way. There are many Indians who are Thai citizens as they've been here almost as long as the Chinese. I don't know when it started or what the rules are/were, but I think most of the tailor and other shops run by Indians there is no need for them to have a work permit. They're old family businesses passed on from generation to generation. Pete
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