Smoking in Restaurants

[caller]

Interesting that everyone has taken scottishguy's version as fact. Whereas the OP states he did ask scottishguy to stop smoking? Who knows? Whatever, it doesn't justify what scottishguy claims subsequently happened, although I have seen similar in the UK, so I can well believe it.

I think most would agree that there is nothing more unpleasant than being in close proximity to others smoking when you are eating.

[Big Boy]

Interesting that everyone has taken scottishguy's version as fact.

Not me. I've taken no side at all. However, if it's the place I'm thinking about, I've often wondered about it. The remarks on here about the food/restaurant have definitely interested me.

[bsdk1960]

It seems that the smokers always is the bad guy who not care about other people,but in my opinion many non smokers
behave like they own the world after so many countrys make rules for smoking.
Why not try and calm down and talk about it guys and don't get upset about so many things in life,maybe you even feel better
with everyone.
Im a "smoker" who stopped 1 1/2 years ago but I promise my self if I ever will be as many other people who stop smoking with
no tolerance for smokers I start again in a second.
Chill out.

[StevePIraq]

Where is it and is it owned by Barry a Canadian?

It is directly opposite the new 7/11 which is on the right about 1 km past La Vallee driving out of town on the Pala-U road and it is not owned by Barry, it is owned by a Thai couple

[Big Boy]

Thank you, it is the place I was thinking of.

[durkH63]

wow such a lot being said on this subject but did it not cross anyones mind that there was people who actually seen what happen ? i was one who seen what happened as i was out side this place stopping off at another place to buy some things. I see the young couple sitting alone at a table with no one around them as the place was nearly empty when i drive my car in and i thought nothing of them. When i come back to my car i see the same couple still there and now a man near them on the next table and also to mention another young woman (thai) sitting next to the young couple on their table smoking.The next thing i know i hear a chair clatter and turned around to see the man next to the couple grabbing the young man on his right side around the area the man claims and the lady who was smoking take to her feet and go off into the back of the resturant very qucikly. I did also notice the young man throw his lighter and un-lighten ciggeratte on to the table and hear him say to the man holding him get your hands off me while the man was inches from his face given him abuse.
Yes we all agree smoking is a disgusting habit and i a no smoking man too but does this going around and sitting next to a smoker allow you to grab them in any way because he decides to smoking beside you in what i understand is a smoking allowed place. NO i think that we would all agree and would expect a punch on the nose if we went around doing this.
I was very very supprise the punch on the nose never happend (maybe the young man think old man can not do that who knows but im older and would certainly do if someone do this to me).
Also i noticed the young mans nationality was mention here in some post and makes me wonder if his nationality was in part the cause of the attack on the young man as that is what it was an attack on the young man. which i feel is a sickening thought. Also was alchol apart of the fact too in this who knows
I feel there is a victim in all of this in what i seen and good on you young man who ever you are for not lowering yourself to the levels of violence.
Also i read the matter has been reported to the police by the young man so obvious this is not for us to judge but can understand in our own minds, but an act of violence i think has been investigated by the proper people

Durk.

[dtaai-maai]

With all the fuss that's being made over a fairly trivial incident, I'm beginning to wonder if there may be a bit more to all this than there first seems. Was it really necessary to involve the police?

Regardless of that, can we all agree that smoking can be antisocial and that the 'old man' was totally out of order in the restaurant and pretty stupid to post a misleading account on here?

It sounds like a storm in a teacup that's over and done with, or should be. Forget it and move on.

Still, at least the forum has a few new members as a result...

[Pleng]

wow such a lot being said on this subject but did it not cross anyones mind that there was people who actually seen what happen ?

It always seems to be the way on this forum.

• Firstly somebody makes an accusation and receives post in sympathy.
• The other side of the story emerges, and then all the responses seem to take the second side as fact all of a sudden.
  
  occasionally
• Somebody who's never posted on the forum comes in backing up one of the sides of the story. There is often content in the post that is mysteriously identifiable with the kind of thing that might be said by the person this new poster is backing up

Also i noticed the young mans nationality was mention here in some post and makes me wonder if his nationality was in part the cause of the attack on the young man as that is what it was an attack on the young man. which i feel is a sickening thought.

[richard]

^ Good explanation as it's always good to hear from both sides, and never fear as I think they got more good publicity out of it than bad. Richard and I (and probably hultoon) will surly try it now!

Thanks

Now I know the place. If I remember rightly it has been located in three different units in that strip. The original was at the far end of the block towards HH and was run by a Canadian called Barry and his girl Plaa. There were never any problems with smoking. Tables in side and outside and smokers sat outside and non smokers inside. The place was so good people used to traipse all the way out there for the fare. Barry originally had a bar/restaurant on the outside of the Colonnade by the lights.

[hhfarang]

^ He originally, originally, had a bar and guesthouse on Nebkahardt Road. That was my hangout for the first three or four years I lived here, because they didn't run girls out of the place, it was easy to park nearby (back then, not now), the food was good, beers were cold all priced reasonably, and Nim, his wife at the time behind the bar was a really nice intelligent lady. Barry is an interesting guy to have a chin wag with and has always attracted a loyal crowd no matter where he was.

He went from the Nebkahardt bar to the bar Richard mentioned, but it disappeared when they built the Colonade. Then he went to the block of shop houses that Richard's posts mention, and later down to open a beach bar in Kao Kalok. That's shut now so I don't know where he is.

If the Family Restaurant is where Barry's bar was (directly across from La Valee), it doesn't quite fit with the other directions posted above, which put it a bit further west on Palau Road.

[sargeant]

I am extremely Pi$$ed off with thi restauraunt. I live local to the place
and am a much frequented customer, however, I go there this evening
and on the next table to me is a very young Scotish gentleman and his Thai
girlfriend, who is literally chain smoking. I have nothing against smoking, except when I am eating, and I kindly aske him to referain, which he naturally refused,
claimi g that The Family Restaurant was a smoking restaurant.
At which point the owner became involved and took sides with the Scotish smoker.
I paid my my bill and left, and will never return, a restaurant which I have frequented
many many times since they started three years ago.

I am having difficulty with this
1. As a frequent visitor what did he not understand about it was a smoking resteraunt
2. As he doesnt like smoking when he is eating WHY go to a smoking resteraunt in the first place.
3. As it is obviously a smoking establishment why does he think the owner should take his side.

i see the same couple still there and now a man near them on the next table

as the place was nearly empty

And that is what i see as the biggest problem it was empty and yet he decided to take a table next to them.

I would go there just to side with the owners and especially seeing as the food is recommended

edit to add and the scottish guys nationality has nothing to do with smoking

[richard]

^ He originally, originally, had a bar and guesthouse on Nebkahardt Road. That was my hangout for the first three or four years I lived here, because they didn't run girls out of the place, it was easy to park nearby (back then, not now), the food was good, beers were cold all priced reasonably, and Nim, his wife at the time behind the bar was a really nice intelligent lady. Barry is an interesting guy to have a chin wag with and has always attracted a loyal crowd no matter where he was.

He went from the Nebkahardt bar to the bar Richard mentioned, but it disappeared when they built the Colonade. Then he went to the block of shop houses that Richard's posts mention, and later down to open a beach bar in Kao Kalok. That's shut now so I don't know where he is.

If the Family Restaurant is where Barry's bar was (directly across from La Valee), it doesn't quite fit with the other directions posted above, which put it a bit further west on Palau Road.

`

Canadian Barry's wife is called Plaa and a relative of my x wife
Barry now lives near the Grand hotel and as far as I know not in business now

[maccastime]

I have forwarded an email to the Mods of this site,as i feel the name of this Restaurant should not be mentioned,some time ago i had a falling out with a Restaurant owner in Hin Lek Fai opposite this mentioned Restaurant,i made the mistake of naming the Restaurant,and shortly after it was removed.Although as a few lads on here have mentioned,this incident may or may not do well for this Restaurant.I know all the Family that run this Restaurant,they work very hard,and the food is really nice,and the price is great.I do not wish to take sides in this,being a non smoker i can feel for the lad that got a little aggro,but not sure his decision making in this was the best way to go.I was in there last night for a meal,and was told by the staff that an incident had taken place,they showed me what was posted on this site,and were not too happy about it,i told them i would email HHAD.I advised them that as it is an open Restaurant,it is very hard to stop people from smoking.Not sure if they can have a non smoking area,and place tables for smokers maybe at the front.

[hhfarang]

"Nim, his wife at the time"

Richard, Nim was his wife from before 2003 to approximately 2007 (I met him in 2003). Plaa or Paa as my wife and I know her is indeed his current wife. He, like many of us have had more than one...

Anyway,

[Lev]

We have received the email, this thread will remain at the moment but is currently under consideration.