Man U v Glasgow Celtic

Post by **BaaBaa.** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:27 pm

Bookies must not have got wind of the Paul Stapleton deal just yet as ive taken the price of 1000000-1.
Looks like i'll soon be toasting an early retirement and owing a big thankyou to you BigBoy.
I ask that all boardmembers keep BigBoys revelation to themselves for now as the mad betting rush will see odds tumble.

Post by **Big Boy** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:39 am

Just remember where you heard it first.

Post by **Joni** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:35 am

45min 2-2

Post by **caller** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:48 am

Joni wrote:45min 2-2

And equally crap! The Gooners game is better.

Post by **caller** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:48 am

3-2! Shocking defence!!

Post by **Jockey** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:19 pm

Big Boy wrote: Its not all doom and gloom, at the end of the day its just 11 men against 10 men & Christiano (the cheat) Ronaldo. Who knows, they may get a lucky break.

The 'lucky break' went Man U's way. No way was that a penalty! Great game - we did ourselves proud. I'm sure it was entertaining for the neutrals. "For we only know that there's gonna be a show AND THE GLASGOW CELTIC WILL BE THERE!"

Post by **BaaBaa.** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:26 pm

Jockey,the Keeper went in the general vicinity of Giggs in the Area.
At Old Trafford that is also known as a stonewall penalty.
Unlucky Celtic.

Post by **Big Boy** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:58 pm

Jockey wrote:

The 'lucky break' went Man U's way. No way was that a penalty!

Agree with you 100% - unfortunately that ref made several blunders.

I don't know if it was a one off (we'll have to wait for the next time they meet), but I'll eat my words - that goalkeeper could probably get a job in the Premiership. He had an excellent game.

My overall opinion however, is that the best team won on the night, although it wasn't as easy as it should have been.

Post by **Guess** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:21 am

Not exactly the right topic I know, but close enough.

Everything looks good for teams both sides of the border. With the absence of a couple of the Italian teams it may well be good year for British domination.

As Liverpool, Celtic and Manu have already won it I think it could be Chelsea's turn this year after dismissing Werder Bremen comfortably two weeks ago and then for Barcelona to struggle at the same venue and only just managing a draw with a last minute goal. Are we heading for a Chelsea Celtic Final?

Does anybody know what the group winner and runner up draws are or does it wait until the end of the group stage.

I would not like to see Celtic finish second and then have to play an English team.

Post by **chelsea** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:17 pm

Guess, the next format after the group stages (top two teams in each of the 8 groups) is a 16 team knock out down to the last two (this is drawn out of a hat).
So you have 8 games, 4 games (quater finals), two games (semi finals) and then the finals. I am not sure if the 1/4 finals and semi finals are drawn out of the hat or done in the same format as the last 16 in the world cup.
The teams that finished 3rd in the group stages then get direct entry into the Eufa Cup and the 4th place teams in the group stages are then eliminated completly.

Post by **Guess** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:37 pm

So presumably the draw is done after the group stage. I thought they had changed it as the was a siuation a few years ago when Barcelona (I think) could only reach second (already got it I think) so that meant that the two leaders of the group due to play against the Barcelona group both tried to lose to avoid being top.

Better this way I think except here it looks like if Celtic and Manu can hold on to first and second the second placed of the two have a 50 - 50 chance of getting drawn aghainst an English club as I would think it is almost certain that Chelsea, Arsenal & Liverpool will pick up first or second in their respective groups. In fact now I thinks they will get top spot.

Post by **chelsea** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:32 pm

Guess, yes that is correct, the draw for the last 16 is done after the end of the group stages.
What I am not sure of is if all the teams are put back in the hat after the 1st lot of knockout games or if they do it like they do in the world cup.
In that comp, you can see from after the last 16 draw what teams you have the chance of playing (right up to the final).

Personally I would rather they all go back in the hat and drawn again after the end of each of the knockout stages (as they do in all of the English FA cup competitions)
At present we could have 4 out of the 5 British teams topping the groups if the results go right for everyone.

Post by **Joni** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:36 pm

Guess wrote: I would not like to see Celtic finish second and then have to play an English team.

This would be very electric spectacle. Battle of Brittain.

Post by **Big Boy** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:33 pm

Chelsea wrote:

Guess, the next format after the group stages (top two teams in each of the 8 groups) is a 16 team knock out down to the last two (this is drawn out of a hat).

I thought that they kept the winner & runner up in each league separate ie if Manchester Utd were 1st and Celtic were 2nd, they both be eligible the play any of the other 14 teams from the other 7 groups.

Surely they wouldn't force Celtic the indignity of having to lose for a 3rd consecutive time against Manchester Utd

Post by **Guess** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:46 pm

I believe the draw is purely group vs group. I.e. Group A plays group D meaning that the winner of one group plays the runner up of the other and vice versa. The remaing rounds should then be able to be organised so that two teams from the same group cannot meet again.

This can not be done by a draw unless it is conditional but may be able to be done in advance. I think not though. I think the only guaranteed way is to have a conditiopnal draw after each round. I.e You pick a team from a hat and then remove the other team from the same group before making the next draw. This would then be repeated until all are completed and then you still have chance that the last two teams in the hat are from the same group.

I don't think there is any easy solution and also I think the possibles need quite a bit of notice for the authorities to prepare for a match.

We will see. I do not think it will be possible for Celtic to meet Manu in the last sixteen but possibly, unless they do it the way I have described above, they could meet in the quarter finals. HOwever presuming that the other English clubs all win their groups which looks likely it means that Celtic have a 50 - 50 chance of drawing one in the last sixteen next year.

Their web site should explain this but I have not found it yet.