STAMFORD Hua Hin closes its doors

[The understudy]

Hallo there everyone!!!

Yo Chas well the facility and the has great potential but as you said the reality was in deed very difficult to accept. For example the eqiupment for editing Videos @ Hua Hin's Campus is s out of date that it's not a pleasure working with it at alll. this is one of many examples where reality expectations does not meet reality of stadards.
I can agree with CHas statement that the laerning and education Atmosphere is really present as for a former Student Student there I never heard of any Rows over american and real UK english. Students speak what they the english they want and it gets exected by everyone whatever English you speak.
Chas The Stamford Website is simply too slow to adapt to the changes that happen and which is directed from the top down and when it reaches the down to the IT staff Information has changed again/
I even found a Commercial on Youtube about Stamford which is misleading as it can be.
The six weeks in which faculty, teaching and technical staff had to pack things up and prepare to move wil be a messy affair. with sortoing out where to live in Bangkok many people will need help relocating.
WHat worries me the most is what will happen with the buiding afterwards did the management had an after use concept for it. if people know that that building is empty soon scavengers will appear and rip all the electrical wirrings apert and anything else what is not nailed to the ground.
I surely believe that Students for the fourthcomming semester who are preparing themselves to study here @ Stamford Hua Hin only to know that hey are going to study in Bangkok would make htem paretns ansd Students pretty pissed of!!!.
Lets hope the move to the new Campus in Bangkok on Rama9th road will be as smooth and I hope teachingm facultym and technical staff will find a place to live.

Your's the undersudy!!!

[MrPlum]

Not sure it's quite dump on Americans , when one says he's not anti-American and the other says he has good American friends. Perhaps certain aspects..

Asian students may prefer the UK over the US but would they have had that choice at all had American dollars not flowed into their economies?

The UK education system is failing as badly as the American, as far as the great unwashed are concerned, since those controlling education in both countries clearly want it that way. My American wife was correct I think in stating that Brits may be good administrators but Americans are more enterprising and self-confident.

[dtaai-maai]

Chas are you an American, who did a 40 hr Tefl course, I would hate to see your spelling, if you think there are no real differences between English and American.

I have lived in the UK, USA and Thailand, I would not let anyone study American, Its like watching sesame street. I have good American friends with degrees from so called top universities, and they know shit.

Is that why 10 million Americans cant read and write.

Even here most kids get some sort of education.

And why do all the rich Thai/Chinese kids go to study in the UK not USA!!!!

I don't particularly want to extend this mindless diatribe by acknowledging it, but looking at the postings of both Chas and heretostay, I know who I'd rather have teaching my kids anything, especially English.

[caller]

Leaving aside all the personal attacks and usual anti-american crap and getting back to topic, I'd be interested in learning from Chas and TU their views on whether this is a shortsighted decision in view of the growing ex-pat commune and the eventual need for such a facility as Stamford - or how far away that need is and the alternatives?

[margaretcarnes]

Always sad when something like this happens, but let's face it, the number of students quoted hardly makes for a viable business proposition.
All that remains is to ponder on which Supermarket will occupy the site!

[Chas]

What will the Stamford buildings be used for? The rumor is that they will eventually open a high school there. But this is just a rumor and the only certain thing is that the University will close down operations on the Hua Hin campus. It was a short-sighted decision and a clear loss for Hua Hin. Any high school they open will be Thai.

True, the number of students never justified the expense of keeping the place open. They were too cheap to hire marketing people who knew what they were doing.

The need for an International high school has always been here. I used to get phone calls and emails from Hua Hin expats (and expats-to-be) on a regular basis asking where they might enroll their English speaking teenagers. We often had faculty discussions about setting up a regular high school to operate in English for the benefit of foreign students as well as Thai students too young for university admission.

We also discussed setting up a program to prepare students for either the GED High School Equivalency Diploma ( a US program I worked with for 15 years) or the British IGCSE ( which was the GCE when I taught for it in Belize. But launching an endeavor (endeavour) like this takes foresight, creativity, market research and all those things which the management of Stamford did not have. These discussions never went anywhere despite my submission of draft proposals to the deans and directors.

There is certainly a need for an International High School here. I have not done intensive market research, and from what I have seen over the years, any such operation would have to be small. I really don't think there are enough families in the area with high school aged kids to support a school of any size.

Dont worry Understudy, the owner will certainly not allow the site to drift into decay! I am sure site security will be maintained once it is closed.

My guess is that it will become a hotel of some sort or condos, or perhaps a conference center. They will probably look for something low maintenance/high profit. It is too far off the beaten path to become a market or shopping center. (Part of the dormitory has always been run as a hotel though.) Proximity to the golf course is something they might capitalize upon. . . but who knows? It should be obvious that these are not creative minds at work here.

[The understudy]

Guten Tag Y'all HHAD Fellas and Homies

Chas you are absolutely right again the management was not only cheap they are also to over confident that they can do the marketing of Stamford Hua Hin Campus by their own. All I had seen duirng the couple study years and years after are only Adds in Bangkokposts Classified section. And the latest I'd heard was they haven't paid in full for the add palcements either only a certain price a months.
WHile on the other Hand Webster Uinversity (which by the way we welcomed them into the Hua Hin in late 1999 when they opened thir Campus in Cha Am) Theie add placements clearly visible on Bangkoks BTS trains. Na for a short Time they even had even an entire BYS Train exterior with thier Add for the Cha Am/Bangkok CAmpuses. Also one thing they's done was to go to the most famous Tutoring Schools in Bangkok and give some Handouts to to propsect new International University Students.

They will eventually reget their decision to clsoe Hua Hin Campus down.
Stamford was the first College later became Schiller Stamford than Stamford University who set up shop in Hua HIN!!

[Chas]

Understudy, you are correct in your assessment of the Stamford marketing efforts over the years. .absolutely amateur. I still remember the half page ad in the Bangkok Post. .entirely in Thai! (Hello?)

And I remember very well the struggle to get the old Stamford website to look like it was not written by a 10 year old banging away at a keyboard. It featured atrocious English throughout and errors galore. ..but no one would listen to us. It was (and still is) Stamford policy to completely ignore any suggestion or offer of assistance made by a member of the faculty.

There was always talk about linking up with universities abroad many of which encourage students to spend a semester away from their campuses. This was one market which Stamford was well qualified to serve but which was never even considered. The farsighted directors also managed to dry up the flow of students from both Japan and China for several terms because they refused to pay the agents their previously agreed upon commissions. It's that kind of place.

[Super Joe]

So the 200 odd students will have to move to Bangkok?
Disaster for the local businesses that survive off them, what'll happen to Nino's!!
SamSam will be quiet at weekends, still it'll take 15 years off me

SJ

[Chas]

SJ the incoming freshmen are already in Bangkok. They were informed at the last minute that they would not be in Hua Hin after all.

The other (upper class) students still at the Hua Hin campus say it was really weird and kind of boring not to see any new faces when the semester began. There are probably around 100 students on campus now ( give or take a dozen) To be more accurate, I would have to check with my sources!

[T.I.G.R.]

Heretostay and Little Imp

Sesame Street is American, probably why it seems like it's ......... American.

I've never been exposed to worse spelling, grammar and what seems to be a general lack of education that I've read in these forums from some of the the British among us. As poorly as the U.S. education system seems to perform I'm pretty sure anyone who gets past the first grade can spell WHAT (Wot ?).

Little Imp, you are either orphaned twins brought together after being educated in different places or husband and wife using the same account......which is it?

Oh, and just for the record it's StaNford University in California......one of the premier educational facilities in America.

[heretostay]

Who said "wot"

So 2 people cant have similar views!!!

Not as bad as sponsors here, with false names ,promoting themselves.

ohh New Business--- 5 new names respond.

Seems there are only about 10 people who post here anyway.

How many are associated with HHAD.?

If you think outside the box or have an opinion here, you get slagged down,

Why not make it a closed forum, with specific topics everyday.
I thought "big brother" was a TV Programme, not a fact of life on here.

[Super Joe]

Seems there are only about 10 people who post here anyway.
How many are associated with HHAD.?

Its so bad on here, but you're a participant anyway
The general concensus is that HHAD is one of the better run forums **spit**, see the crap people get away with posting on the other sites, its a joke.

SJ

[little imp]

I did stop already and already appologized in the missunderstanding.

Please use emotion control.

[The understudy]

[quote="Chas"]There was always talk about linking up with universities abroad many of which encourage students to spend a semester away from their campuses. This was one market which Stamford was well qualified to serve but which was never even considered. The farsighted directors also managed to dry up the flow of students from both Japan and China for several terms because they refused to pay the agents their previously agreed upon commissions. It's that kind of place.[/quote]

Guten Abend Y'all

Chas there was a Co Operration between Stamford and Schiller International University (stamford even borrowed their Name fom early 2000 to mid 2003). And there where a few Students who spent one to 2 Semesters abroad at one of Schillers Six International Campuses around the World. (My friend a Chinese Female Student went to the Schiller University in Heildelberg Germany got so excited of that place that she wentt back and finished her Masters degree there.)
Ohh Yeah we had Agencies that Stamford hired to get Sutdents from India, China and as of recently Japan. ( talking about this brings up memories of Stsmford Hua Hin's very first Japanese Female Students which were also my close friends, one of them was tough, cute and hard drinking the other one So cute & beautiful it's beyond believe!!!). Darn why in the world won't Stamofrd pay them agents commissions for such good prospects from Japan? One might ask. Well that question still beats me as we had not seen any cute Japanese Students again unti I finished my studies
In the middle of 2003 all the Students Exchange Porgrams with Schiller University has come to an End as Schiller Stamford International University changed back to Stamford Univ. once again. One positive thing I noted from this Co Operration was a standardised Format how to do the Midtem and Final Exams. before that every teacher has his own style of how to do his exam papers. It's a Shame that the Hua Hin CHapter has to end this way! A lot of businesses that profitted from us while we Students are around, every single night we had to get something to grub(Eat) and this happends mostly Night Market, Small Night Market (for insiders and chinese Students) The Grand Plaza MArket, and other selected places around town. WIll they feel it when Stamford had left town? The answer had to be seen but probably not, there are other students from surrounding Univ's that easy covers it all up!

Your's The understudy!