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HHTel wrote:I'm usually very optimistic, as you may have noticed. However, studies regarding covid-19 are inconclusive on both sides. There is no clear evidence whether the weather will affect the virus or not. Until there is, I will sit on the fence for this one. We all have aspirations about the end of this pandemic but to date that's all they are - aspirations.
Many experts are forecasting a second wave 6 months after the first. There is evidence of that both currently and historically.
Personally, I believe this will eventually settle as a seasonal outbreak and join the other 4 coronaviruses on their annual visit. By that time there will (hopefully) be an effective vaccine to further control it.

What are the other 4 seasonal coronaviruses you refer to?

Common human coronaviruses
229E (alpha coronavirus)
NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
OC43 (beta coronavirus)
HKU1 (beta coronavirus)

People around the world commonly get infected with human coronaviruses 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1.

That's 4. This new one would make 5

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html

Common coronaviruses are highly seasonal, with most cases peaking in winter months
Date:
April 7, 2020
Source:
University of Michigan
Summary:
Of the seven coronaviruses known to infect people, four cause common respiratory infections that are sharply seasonal and appear to transmit similarly to influenza, according to a new study.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 164949.htm

HHTel wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:54 pm I'm surprised nobody has taken up the reported 53 new cases today.
We must have sensible people here (unlike another forum) who have realised that even though the figure jumped to 53, the underlying figure of new cases locally is actually 11 if you subtract the mini hot spot of 42 foreign migrants.
Once you open up a border, it was bound to happen.
So still on target.

The migrants were illegals who had been arrested and securely placed into a quarantine centre - mostly from Burma and Malaya plus one from India. More such arrests will follow, is the intention.

Interesting video.. And there are plenty of others asking similar questions , Not in the mainstream media though of course

HHTel wrote:

Common human coronaviruses
229E (alpha coronavirus)
NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
OC43 (beta coronavirus)
HKU1 (beta coronavirus)

People around the world commonly get infected with human coronaviruses 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1.

That's 4. This new one would make 5

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html

Common coronaviruses are highly seasonal, with most cases peaking in winter months
Date:
April 7, 2020
Source:
University of Michigan
Summary:
Of the seven coronaviruses known to infect people, four cause common respiratory infections that are sharply seasonal and appear to transmit similarly to influenza, according to a new study.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 164949.htm

Thanks, interesting. I hadn't realised that the first 4 are seasonal and presumably are responsible for some "common colds". Don't fancy catching any of the last 3 though (SARS, MERS, SARS2(covid-19)).

An incredibly sad (official) "milestone", but let's be honest this figure was passed sometime ago - under/miss-reporting (IMO) of hospital deaths and completely inaccurate reporting of Care Home/"civilian" (community) deaths.

Coronavirus: UK hospital Deaths Pass 20,000

"More than 20,000 people have now died with coronavirus in UK hospitals, the Department of Health has announced.

The latest figures showed a total of 20,319 deaths in the UK, up by 813 on the previous day.

At the government's daily briefing, the home secretary described the figure as a "tragic and terrible milestone".

Last month, the government's chief scientific adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, said keeping deaths below 20,000 would be a "good outcome".

At the Downing Street briefing, Home Secretary Priti Patel said: "As the deaths caused by this terrible virus pass another tragic and terrible milestone, the entire nation is grieving."

It is 51 days since the first virus-related death was announced in the UK."

Taken From: - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52424413

Very good read ...

OPINION: THAIS SHOULD FEAR THE DANGER OF PANDEMIC’S NEW NORMAL
The end of the coronavirus pandemic is nowhere in sight, yet the New Normal of lives and politics in Thailand is already here.

Curfew, emergency decree, shutdown order, state-run quarantine, booze ban, a limit on the number of Thais allowed to return home from overseas, you name it. They’ve been going on for a month now – with no end promised.

The New Normal is set to continue for a while; Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha suggested earlier this week that the officials are in no rush to reopen businesses, lift curfew, or end emergency rule by the end of this month, contrary to online speculation.

As the crisis continues, it’s imperative that people who cherish freedom, human rights and democracy stay alert. They cannot sleepwalk and follow whatever they are being told to do by the state without giving it a critical thought.

Full Story: https://www.khaosodenglish.com/opinion/ ... ew-normal/

Anyone want to put money on Thai Covid numbers jumping towards the end of April so the Obergruppenführer can justify another month curfew and drink ban.

buksida wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:22 am As the crisis continues, it’s imperative that people who cherish freedom, human rights and democracy stay alert. They cannot sleepwalk and follow whatever they are being told to do by the state without giving it a critical thought.

Astonishingly, there are one or two farang on this forum who appear to accept everything the junta says as gospel.

dtaai-maai wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:34 pm

buksida wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:22 am As the crisis continues, it’s imperative that people who cherish freedom, human rights and democracy stay alert. They cannot sleepwalk and follow whatever they are being told to do by the state without giving it a critical thought.

Astonishingly, there are one or two farang on this forum who appear to accept everything the junta says as gospel.

So what steps do you both suggest as to how Thailand should come out of lock down ?

Allow businesses to open in provinces that have shown no new cases over the past week. Allow alcohol sales to resume. Allow people to work and feed themselves providing they remain vigilant and aware of the contagion and how it is contracted. Stop the police mafia threatening citizens and taking money off them for non-crimes such as handing out free food or trying to make a living.

If Thailand really has such low numbers compared to the rest of the world, why does it have one of the strictest lockdown regimes? Oh yeah ... military dictatorship

^^And there's one of them!

(EDIT: above buksi's post...)

Until a vaccine is able to be manufactured in vast quantity we are only BUYING TIME.

So it seems to me that social distancing is paramount and if only say 10% do not carry this out then there is a huge risk on another wave starting and the likes of Taiwan will need to quarantine all travelers etc

Another wave? Did we even have a first wave? About the same number of people killed by covid-19 as die on the roads daily.