Premier League 2023-24

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[Dannie Boy]

He’d be good for corners!!

[Dannie Boy]

No major upsets in yesterday’s games with Man City getting a comfortable win against Forrest.

Today sees the North London Derby with both teams hoping to continue their unbeaten start to the season - does that mean it’s likely to be a draw?

[thecolonel]

No major upsets in yesterday’s games with Man City getting a comfortable win against Forrest.

Today sees the North London Derby with both teams hoping to continue their unbeaten start to the season - does that mean it’s likely to be a draw?

2-2

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[dtaai-maai]

Watching the match at the Emirates. What's with the wannabe 'Ultra' look with small pockets of Arsenal fans? Bit embarrassing if you ask me...

[Lost]

No major upsets in yesterday’s games with Man City getting a comfortable win against Forrest.

Today sees the North London Derby with both teams hoping to continue their unbeaten start to the season - does that mean it’s likely to be a draw?

2-2

[thecolonel]

No major upsets in yesterday’s games with Man City getting a comfortable win against Forrest.

Today sees the North London Derby with both teams hoping to continue their unbeaten start to the season - does that mean it’s likely to be a draw?

2-2

You're welcome!

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[Dannie Boy]

A good weekend for you Colonel - correct prediction (although not surprising), but more importantly, an Everton win!!

[thecolonel]

A good weekend for you Colonel - correct prediction (although not surprising), but more importantly, an Everton win!!

Yes, pleasantly surprised if not shocked to be honest. From what I saw we could have had more goals too.

As re the Arsenal scoreline, that's the beauty of not being too close to it!

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[Dannie Boy]

If I’d have been guessing the result I’d have probably gone for 2-2 as well.

I have three sons who all support different London clubs - the youngest supports Spurs so he was reasonably happy with the result. The next up supports Arsenal and for him it was a “win only” as an acceptable result. The eldest is a Chelsea supporter - he’d have been more than happy with a point!!


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[Lost]

The officiating seems to be taking all the headlines but I thought the ref did a pretty good job.

[dtaai-maai]

^^Yes, I'm inclined to agree. I thought both reds were justified. I thought Spurs were at our best when it was 11 v 11. Wonderful quick one-tough passing. We didn't handle the advantage well, but it was one hell of a game to watch. And most crucial of all,we got the result! Say what you like about the new Spurs, but boring we ain't!!

[caller]

The opening Liverpool goal was so clearly onside, I think everyone expected a goal to be awarded after a var check. I was amazed when after a nanosecond, the offside decision was upheld. It now seems they just didn't do their job and an apology has been issued. It's making the results of some very important games a joke and is having a perverse effect on the table. So many mistakes already this season. Not a good day for the officials - again.

[Dannie Boy]

I also thought the first booking for Jota was a joke as well - there was no contact that I could see and the Spurs player looked to fall under his own feet!! And the sending off, of Jones looked very harsh, he looked as though his foot had gone hit the top of the ball and then accidentally made contact with the Spurs player - maybe the rules say if there is contact then it’s a red, but no way was there any intent - VAR is crap!!

[caller]

I think The Times report on what happened and the consequences, spot on. Behind a paywall, so copied here:

A travesty for Liverpool, a shame for Tottenham and an infuriating, disillusioning experience for the neutral. This could have been one of the games of the season but the whole thing was betrayed by an inexplicable, inexcusable failure of VAR. The PGMOL apologised but what are sorrys worth? Everything — Tottenham’s brilliance, Liverpool’s resilience, and all the relentless football played — was rendered something of a sham.

“A significant human error occurred,” the PGMOL statement said. “A clear and obvious factual error . . . PGMOL will conduct a full review into the circumstances which led to the error.”

We get it: they know they made a mistake. Every person on the planet makes those, so spare the vilification of Darren England, the video assistant at the centre of the storm.

The problem is the process. As Ange Postecoglou said, before technology became part of it it was possible to accept that not every call made by officials would be correct, but now VAR is here and things are no better yet we have to stomach all the ways in which stopping for replays disrupts the game, you’re left with one question. What’s the point? This isn’t a gut reaction to this match — I thought it before. VAR should go.

The nonsense centred on a 32nd-minute “goal” put away by Luis Díaz with a sublime finish after timing a run in behind Spurs’s back line to reach Mo Salah’s superb pass. To the naked eye it looked clearly onside and just a wonderful moment of combination attacking. Then TV replays paused the action and confirmed with even greater clarity that Díaz was onside, despite the onfield decision saying otherwise. Yet, on VAR review, England quickly advised Díaz was offside. The strangeness of it all thickened when, despite requests, PGMOL could not provide broadcasters with stills to explain England’s decision.

After the game came the statement, confirming suspicions. Someone at Stockley Park had had a brainstorm. The review “should have resulted in the goal being awarded through VAR intervention, however, the VAR failed to intervene”. What a pity, because Liverpool would have been 1-0 up and it might have been a very different game. Or might not. We’ll never know — and that does as few favours to Postecoglou’s team as for Jürgen Klopp’s.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tott ... -wv8c9fx0j