Electric Vehicles (EV) Thread

[GroveHillWanderer]

I realise that fast charging EV’s will be able to slow charge as well, but you’re going to be paying a premium to buy such a car in the first place, so the only benefit will be to use a rapid charger, which will be relatively rare for quite some time as well as relatively expensive, especially in the western world where they take every opportunity to fleece the paying customers!!

Not sure where you're getting this info from. The fast charging EV's announced so far by BYD are hardly any more expensive than current ones. The first sedan model, the BYD Tan, costs 218,900 Yuan - about 1 million baht or roughly $30,000. As far as I can tell, it's very similar to the BYD Seal, which actually costs more here.

Megawatt chargers are not very widespread yet, but BYD already has more than 500 in China, rising to thousands next year, and will start installing them in Europe starting next year as well.

Megawatt chargers may well cost a little more to use, but not massively so, in the same way that rapid DC chargers cost more than the slower AC chargers do.

[Dannie Boy]

That may be the cost in China but I’m certain it will be more expensive elsewhere especially in Europe - this thread isn’t exclusive to Thailand. But even allowing for a not too expensive purchase price, I’m fairly certain that the cost of a fast charge will be at least or more than petrol - a lot of people are looking for an incentive to switch rather than a reason to stay!!


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[GroveHillWanderer]

That may be the cost in China but I’m certain it will be more expensive elsewhere especially in Europe - this thread isn’t exclusive to Thailand. But even allowing for a not too expensive purchase price, I’m fairly certain that the cost of a fast charge will be at least or more than petrol - a lot of people are looking for an incentive to switch rather than a reason to stay!!


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Not sure why you're so sure these new megawatt chargers will be so expensive. There are already some megawatt chargers in Europe (mainly for EV lorries) and they're not more expensive than petrol. Also, Tesla superchargers already go up to 350 KW and (especially if you're a Tesla owner) can cost about the same as some of the slower "fast" chargers from other companies - or sometimes slightly less.

Also, you don't even need a megawatt charger to get extra fast charging with the new BYD "megawatt" models. They come with dual charging ports and cables, so if there are two fast chargers available, you can plug into both of them and double your charging speed, as mentioned in the article below. This obviously will not cost you any more as you're still paying the same price per kWh for that model of charger.

Since chargers can't provide a megawatt of power, the Han L and Tang L both come with dual charging ports for simultaneous fast-charging.

BYD's Five-Minute Fast-Charging EV Is Even Cheaper Than We Thought

https://insideevs.com/news/756144/byd-h ... -charging/

[Dannie Boy]

I admit that some of my comments are without foundation but I’ll be very surprised if in some markets (definitely including the UK), the purchase price of these cars will be considerably more than they are in China, as will the cost to charge them.

About a week ago I read a report of a number of journalists who completed journeys from Berlin to Madrid in EV’s and comparable ICE (diesel) cars and the cost of charging EV’s using public networks was considerably more than diesel and of course considerably increased the journey time - https://dailygalaxy.com/2025/06/after-d ... -the-road/#

Just to reiterate, I’m not against EV cars, I just think that they won’t provide the same flexibility that ICE cars provide, albeit at the cost of greater pollution.