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Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:19 pm
by hhinner
benmo wrote:Can foreigners register
No.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:38 pm
by handdrummer
hhinner wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:19 pm
benmo wrote:Can foreigners register
No.
Friends in Bangkok paid 5000 baht to be put on a waiting list. I don't know if that's a legitimate list.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:42 pm
by hhinner
handdrummer wrote:
hhinner wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:19 pm
benmo wrote:Can foreigners register
No.
Friends in Bangkok paid 5000 baht to be put on a waiting list. I don't know if that's a legitimate list.
Private hospital waiting list probably. No guarantee when that hospital will get vaccine or how much of it.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:14 am
by handdrummer
hhinner wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:42 pm
handdrummer wrote:
hhinner wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:19 pm No.
Friends in Bangkok paid 5000 baht to be put on a waiting list. I don't know if that's a legitimate list.
Private hospital waiting list probably. No guarantee when that hospital will get vaccine or how much of it.
That was my thought. That would by our food for a month. Oh to be a HiSo, now that Prayuth's here.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:37 am
by buksida
I can see a whole segment of non-vaccinated farangs being treated like pariahs in Thailand because many will refuse to accept the extortion (or the Chinese jab). Unless they make you wear a tag to prove your vaccination status, it won't matter on a day to day basis - but the non-vaccinated will be treated like lepers and get refused entry in a large number of places here in the coming years.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:51 am
by Big Boy
I'm hoping that now they are letting private hospitals procure their own vaccines, there may be more choice. Certainly the Bangkok Post article above gave some sort of hope.

Until this month I've been of the opinion that I wouldn't be ripped off for a vaccine. However, since the numbers have started rising, and being in a vulnerable category, I am now of the opinion that I shouldn't be such a stingy git - I won't be able to take my money with me if I should become a victim of Covid. I will pay.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:10 am
by Dannie Boy
Changing the subject somewhat, I was absolutely amazed to hear on BBC news this morning that Japan is lagging way behind most of the advanced nations and is still below 1% of vaccination of adults, so really no better than Thailand.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:22 am
by hhinner
Dannie Boy wrote:Changing the subject somewhat, I was absolutely amazed to hear on BBC news this morning that Japan is lagging way behind most of the advanced nations and is still below 1% of vaccination of adults, so really no better than Thailand.
^^ And only 3 months until the Olympics.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:51 pm
by GroveHillWanderer
Dannie Boy wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:10 am Changing the subject somewhat, I was absolutely amazed to hear on BBC news this morning that Japan is lagging way behind most of the advanced nations and is still below 1% of vaccination of adults, so really no better than Thailand.
Apparently there's a high level of vaccine hesitancy in Japan, which I have to say, surprised me a little when I read it.

According to the link below:
Japan has one of the lowest rates of vaccine confidence in the world, according to a Lancet study, which found that fewer than 30% of people strongly agreed that vaccines were safe, important and effective
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/ ... ronavirus/

Again, from the info in the article:
Japan’s modern vaccine unease has its roots in a measles, mumps and rubella inoculation that some suspected of leading to higher rates of aseptic meningitis in the early 1990s. Though no definitive link was established, the shots were discontinued

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:25 pm
by PeteC
Pfizer CEO: Vaccine third dose 'likely' needed within 12 months

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/21005 ... -12-months

WASHINGTON: The head of Pfizer said in an interview aired Thursday that people will "likely" need a third dose of his company's Covid-19 vaccine within a year of being fully vaccinated.

CEO Albert Bourla also said annual vaccinations against the coronavirus may well be required.

"We need to see what would be the sequence, and for how often we need to do that, that remains to be seen," Bourla told CNBC in an interview recorded on April 1.

"A likely scenario is that there will be likely a need for a third dose, somewhere between six and 12 months and then from there, there will be an annual revaccination, but all of that needs to be confirmed," he said, adding that variants will play a "key role."

"It is extremely important to suppress the pool of people that can be susceptible to the virus," he said.

Researchers currently don't know how long vaccines provide protection against the coronavirus.

Pfizer published a study earlier this month that said its jab is more than 91 percent effective at protecting against the coronavirus, and more than 95 percent effective against severe cases of Covid-19 up to six months after the second dose.

But researchers say more data is needed to determine whether protection lasts after six months.

David Kessler, the head of US President Joe Biden's Covid-19 response team, warned a congressional committee on Thursday that Americans should expect to receive booster shots to defend against coronavirus variants.

"We don't know everything at this moment," he told the House Coronavirus Crisis Subcommittee. "We are studying the durability of the antibody response.

"It seems strong but there is some waning of that and no doubt the variants challenge," he said.

"I think for planning purposes, planning purposes only, I think we should expect that we may have to boost."

The Pfizer vaccine, developed in partnership with German firm BioNTech, currently plays a leading role in American and European vaccination campaigns.

The pharmaceutical giant announced in February that it was testing a third dose of its vaccine to better combat the emerging variants.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:34 pm
by HHTel
All that could be said in just two words. "Nobody knows!"

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:30 pm
by handdrummer
Buy stock in companies producing vaccines. The whole will have to get a booster shot every year from now to eternity. The CEO's are salivating.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:51 pm
by HHTel
Could be a safe gamble but as yet, nobody knows.
Chances are the COVID-19 vaccine most people will be receiving this year, will not be their last. But whether or not the COVID-19 vaccine will need to be administered to people yearly, is simply not known at this point.

“There’s not a good answer for that just yet. The vaccine simply hasn’t existed long enough to determine how long immunity lasts, and we also haven’t had the virus itself around long enough to determine whether or not there are going to be different strains that circulate each year similar to influenza,” Tom Hudachko, Director of Communications at the Utah Department of Health, says.
https://www.rochesterfirst.com/coronavi ... -flu-shot/

Then there's opposing opinions:
A leading Canadian virologist says people could get annual COVID-19 shots in the future as the virus continues to mutate and produce new variants.

"It may even become endemic, which means that every year when we get our flu shot, we'll be getting our coronavirus shot for whatever variants are circulating at that specific time."
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/coron ... -1.5973320

Again, short answer: Nobody knows!

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:54 pm
by hhinner
Well still be waiting for the first shot when others are on 3rd or 4th.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:11 pm
by Big Boy
Richard Barrow has just tweeted this for Farangs wanting vaccines in Thailand https://www.siamvax.com/