Vaccines - Covid 19

[Dannie Boy]

These are the isolation rules for England (the other Home Nations have slightly different rules)
When you do not need to self-isolate

If someone you live with has symptoms of COVID-19, or has tested positive for COVID-19, you will not need to self-isolate if any of the following apply:

you're fully vaccinated – this means 14 days have passed since your final dose of a COVID-19 vaccine given by the NHS
you're under 18 years, 6 months old
you're taking part or have taken part in a COVID-19 vaccine trial
you're not able to get vaccinated for medical reasons
Even if you do not have symptoms, you should still:

get a PCR test on GOV.UK to check if you have COVID-19
follow advice on how to avoid catching and spreading COVID-19
consider limiting contact with people who are at higher risk from COVID-19

[thecolonel]

These are the isolation rules for England (the other Home Nations have slightly different rules)
When you do not need to self-isolate

If someone you live with has symptoms of COVID-19, or has tested positive for COVID-19, you will not need to self-isolate if any of the following apply:

you're fully vaccinated – this means 14 days have passed since your final dose of a COVID-19 vaccine given by the NHS
you're under 18 years, 6 months old
you're taking part or have taken part in a COVID-19 vaccine trial
you're not able to get vaccinated for medical reasons
Even if you do not have symptoms, you should still:

get a PCR test on GOV.UK to check if you have COVID-19
follow advice on how to avoid catching and spreading COVID-19
consider limiting contact with people who are at higher risk from COVID-19

Thanks Dannie,

What practically happens if hypothetically you or I go back to the UK with our 2 vaccines given in Thailand

Please assume that Thailand is no longer on red list as is rumoured to happen

I'm especially interested in vaccines. Surely they can't give you jabs on top of jabs. There must be some sort of minimum wait period

Curious to know, if anyone knows

TIA



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[Big Boy]

I'm especially interested in vaccines. Surely they can't give you jabs on top of jabs. There must be some sort of minimum wait period

Is this not exactly what Thailand are doing to allow people to travel for education?

[thecolonel]

I'm especially interested in vaccines. Surely they can't give you jabs on top of jabs. There must be some sort of minimum wait period

Is this not exactly what Thailand are doing to allow people to travel for education?

Not sure if misunderstanding here as I'm not following the ref to Education

For me what I'm saying is.... If UK say my Thai jabs are not 'recognised' (as not given in UK) then what actually happens when I'm stood in UK Airport Arrivals?

Do they refuse entry? Make you take 2 jabs in UK (and if so when, bearing in mind just had two) ? Depends on how long you stay?

Mandatory Quarantine (remember assumption is no longer red list)?

Just wondering what practically happens???

Thanks

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[Osandpo]

Back in July BoJo or one of his ministers said Brits vaccinated overseas would “soon” be able to report their vaccination details and have them input into the NHS database. A condition was that they must be registered with a UK GP.
However so far nothing has been put in place and this week they again said this would be done “soon”.
The current rule is therefore that if you arrive from Thailand you must do hotel quarantine even if you were fully vaccinated with UK-approved vaccines here

[Osandpo]

Back in July BoJo or one of his ministers said Brits vaccinated overseas would “soon” be able to report their vaccination details and have them input into the NHS database. A condition was that they must be registered with a UK GP.
However so far nothing has been put in place and this week they again said this would be done “soon”.
The current rule is therefore that if you arrive from Thailand you must do hotel quarantine even if you were fully vaccinated with UK-approved vaccines here

As usual, Scotland, NI and Wales have different rules….

[Don East Stand]

MY wife (farang) went back to UK (Scotland) 5 or 6 weeks ago when Thailand was still on amber. She had her first shot of Astra Zeneca a 3 days before leaving Thailand.

Upon arrival in Scotland she had to isolate at home for 10 days, and of course take the two money making covid tests

At that time people returning from Thailand to the UK would not have had to self isolate if they had 2 shots of vaccine in UK.

So to try and answer thecolonel's question, you would be allowed into the country, but would have to self isolate for 10 days. This may have changed with some of yesterday's announcements.

My wife will shortly be asking the question regarding getting her second vaccination. I will try and remember to update how she gets on.

[Big Boy]

Not sure if misunderstanding here as I'm not following the ref to Education

Your question was

Surely they can't give you jabs on top of jabs. There must be some sort of minimum wait period

People from Thailand, already vaccinated with 2 x Sinovac or Sinopharm or 1 x Sinovac + AZ are being re-vaccinated to make them eligible for travel to get educated overseas. So what I'm saying is the wait period doesn't seem to be bothering the Thai authorities.

[Dannie Boy]

These are the isolation rules for England (the other Home Nations have slightly different rules)
When you do not need to self-isolate

If someone you live with has symptoms of COVID-19, or has tested positive for COVID-19, you will not need to self-isolate if any of the following apply:

you're fully vaccinated – this means 14 days have passed since your final dose of a COVID-19 vaccine given by the NHS
you're under 18 years, 6 months old
you're taking part or have taken part in a COVID-19 vaccine trial
you're not able to get vaccinated for medical reasons
Even if you do not have symptoms, you should still:

get a PCR test on GOV.UK to check if you have COVID-19
follow advice on how to avoid catching and spreading COVID-19
consider limiting contact with people who are at higher risk from COVID-19

Thanks Dannie,

What practically happens if hypothetically you or I go back to the UK with our 2 vaccines given in Thailand

Please assume that Thailand is no longer on red list as is rumoured to happen

I'm especially interested in vaccines. Surely they can't give you jabs on top of jabs. There must be some sort of minimum wait period

Curious to know, if anyone knows

TIA

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I’m in the UK at the moment having travelled just before Thailand switched from Amber to Red, so I was able to isolate at home rather than hotel accommodation. I had both jabs in Thailand (Sino + AZ) but I haven’t yet tried to get a third jab in the UK - all the news about getting a third jab here includes the caveat that it will not be given until after 6 months from the 2nd dose, so that’s not going to apply to me.

[thecolonel]

Back in July BoJo or one of his ministers said Brits vaccinated overseas would “soon” be able to report their vaccination details and have them input into the NHS database. A condition was that they must be registered with a UK GP.
However so far nothing has been put in place and this week they again said this would be done “soon”.
The current rule is therefore that if you arrive from Thailand you must do hotel quarantine even if you were fully vaccinated with UK-approved vaccines here

As usual, Scotland, NI and Wales have different rules….

And I'm sure you're correct on that point

FWIW my query relates to England

Part of the reason I'm asking is that I keep hearing locally from expats that Pfizer is accepted in 'UK'.

But someone on here stated, and I'm sure with good reason, that it's not what you've had but where you had it!

Hence me seeking clarity, thanks

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[Dannie Boy]

I'm especially interested in vaccines. Surely they can't give you jabs on top of jabs. There must be some sort of minimum wait period

Is this not exactly what Thailand are doing to allow people to travel for education?

Not sure if misunderstanding here as I'm not following the ref to Education

For me what I'm saying is.... If UK say my Thai jabs are not 'recognised' (as not given in UK) then what actually happens when I'm stood in UK Airport Arrivals?

Do they refuse entry? Make you take 2 jabs in UK (and if so when, bearing in mind just had two) ? Depends on how long you stay?

Mandatory Quarantine (remember assumption is no longer red list)?

Just wondering what practically happens???

Thanks

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It’s not mandatory to be vaccinated to travel to the UK (if your a British national or have UK residence status). It could affect if/how you quarantine though and from what country you travel from. Currently Thailand is on the UK Red list so you’d have to stay in an approved hotel for 10 days, regardless of whether you’ve been vaccinated or not (even if you had been jabbed in the UK). If/when Thailand comes off the Red list, it would (currently) revert to home isolation for 10 days, with PCR tests on day 2 and 8, although you can opt for a day 5 “Test for Release” and if negative you’re allowed out but still have to do the day 8 test.

[thecolonel]

Back in July BoJo or one of his ministers said Brits vaccinated overseas would “soon” be able to report their vaccination details and have them input into the NHS database. A condition was that they must be registered with a UK GP.
However so far nothing has been put in place and this week they again said this would be done “soon”.
The current rule is therefore that if you arrive from Thailand you must do hotel quarantine even if you were fully vaccinated with UK-approved vaccines here

As usual, Scotland, NI and Wales have different rules….

And I'm sure you're correct on that point

FWIW my query relates to England

Part of the reason I'm asking is that I keep hearing locally from expats that Pfizer is accepted in 'UK'.

But someone on here stated, and I'm sure with good reason, that it's not what you've had but where you had it!

Hence me seeking clarity, thanks

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My last post crossed with others.....

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[Osandpo]

Back in July BoJo or one of his ministers said Brits vaccinated overseas would “soon” be able to report their vaccination details and have them input into the NHS database. A condition was that they must be registered with a UK GP.
However so far nothing has been put in place and this week they again said this would be done “soon”.
The current rule is therefore that if you arrive from Thailand you must do hotel quarantine even if you were fully vaccinated with UK-approved vaccines here

As usual, Scotland, NI and Wales have different rules….

And I'm sure you're correct on that point

FWIW my query relates to England

Part of the reason I'm asking is that I keep hearing locally from expats that Pfizer is accepted in 'UK'.

But someone on here stated, and I'm sure with good reason, that it's not what you've had but where you had it!

Hence me seeking clarity, thanks

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It seems to be both: the vaccine itself has to be one approved by the relevant UK authority AND you have to have been vaccinated in the UK, US, EU, Japan or Singapore (last two were added yesterday)

However, as others have said, if you arrive from a red list country you must do the hotel quarantine regardless of vaccination status

[Dannie Boy]

Back in July BoJo or one of his ministers said Brits vaccinated overseas would “soon” be able to report their vaccination details and have them input into the NHS database. A condition was that they must be registered with a UK GP.
However so far nothing has been put in place and this week they again said this would be done “soon”.
The current rule is therefore that if you arrive from Thailand you must do hotel quarantine even if you were fully vaccinated with UK-approved vaccines here

As usual, Scotland, NI and Wales have different rules….

And I'm sure you're correct on that point

FWIW my query relates to England

Part of the reason I'm asking is that I keep hearing locally from expats that Pfizer is accepted in 'UK'.

But someone on here stated, and I'm sure with good reason, that it's not what you've had but where you had it!

Hence me seeking clarity, thanks

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If you follow the news (on say the BBC website), you will have seen many times that the UK only recognised vaccines given in the UK, EU and the US. Yesterday they expanded that list to include 17 more countries (but not Thailand) and also changed some other rules - more here.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-a ... vaccinated

[thecolonel]

Thanks all. Crikey, who'd travel with all that!

The back story to all this is it's for an English mate of mine here. He's younger, and ideally for him didn't want to have any vaccine(personal choice etc)

A major reason he decided to book to have the vax(Pfizer) is that he heard 'Pfizer was accepted in UK'. He thought he could walk back into UK(nb when not on red list, or he simply wouldn't go) and flash his Pfizer badge. I said ''whoa, hang on, I think because you had in Thailand it's not recognised!''

So he was thinking of cancelling vax. Hence i was keen to know the score to update him. I've passed on the links so he can investigate the T&Cs himself and decide accordingly.

thanks again to all

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