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TomTom55,

With all of these fruit based smoothies, you're certainly going to put some 'eye of a needle' theories into practice :shock: . How long before you get sick of fruit, and desire/need some real food? Start eating real food, and any good work will be quickly undone.

When I moved to Thailand a year ago I was 10Kg over my fighting weight. This was because of an extended period of inactivity due to a serious leg injury. Regular karate training has seen me naturally return to my fighting weight (u.75Kg), and I can eat and drink whatever takes my fancy (often to excess at weekends :oops: ). Regular training has seen me achieve my ideal weight doing something I can enjoy. Karate can be for life, and it will achieve your goals.
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@Wado-Karate Thank you for the offer but I have trained in taekwondo and karate for a couple of years when I was younger, I am quite ok exercising at home and keeping to a balanced diet. I don't tend to get bored of things easily, being Buddhist for the past 5 years (before I had ever even visited Thailand), I have learned that food is food and it has it's purpose. I don't chase delicious things with desire as I know and can see the downfall. Yes I had a problem with alcohol but nobody is perfect, that has been recently rectified. Also, I am prepared to have to sit on the toilet for as long as it takes, it is only part of a process of changing ones diet.

@Takiap I am going to be blunt here, you come across as a jerk of sorts in all honesty mate, maybe you should be mindful of what you say, or type for that matter before you do actually do it.
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Maybe I should have been equally as blunt, rather than trying the subtle approach. For crying out load mate, you have a bit of a beer belly, you've stated several times that you know what you have to do, so then just get on with it, rather than sit there on your pedestal thinking people are having a go at you because of your age.

Judging from a few of your posts, you either lack humor or else you're not handling life without beer as well as you think.

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Takiap wrote:Maybe I should have been equally as blunt, rather than trying the subtle approach. For crying out load mate, you have a bit of a beer belly, you've stated several times that you know what you have to do, so then just get on with it, rather than sit there on your pedestal thinking people are having a go at you because of your age.

Judging from a few of your posts, you either lack humor or else you're not handling life without beer as well as you think.

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The internet can be somewhat monotone at times, can't it. No I do have humour but you just came across in that particular instance as someone oozing with sarcasm (which isn't the best kind of humour), and the post was pretty out of place IMO. I know what I have to do, but if you read back to the first page I started off by asking opinions on where to purchase specific foods, not about how to tone my figure.

I am handling life without alcohol quite fine actually, it seems that it was the greatest source of me putting on weight as even in the past week I have lost a little of my beer belly through exercise and changing up my diet.

There is a saying that reads, 'if you don't have anything to say which would improve on the situation or conversation, then it is probably best to keep your mouth shut'.
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TomTom55 wrote:There is a saying that reads, 'if you don't have anything to say which would improve on the situation or conversation, then it is probably best to keep your mouth shut'.
From what I've seen, Takiap has only jewels of wisdom spilling from his lips. You do realize such Obama-esque, idealistic but unrealistic, fortune cookie sayings can come back to bite you? :naughty:
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MrPlum wrote:
TomTom55 wrote:There is a saying that reads, 'if you don't have anything to say which would improve on the situation or conversation, then it is probably best to keep your mouth shut'.
From what I've seen, Takiap has only jewels of wisdom spilling from his lips. You do realize such Obama-esque, idealistic but unrealistic, fortune cookie sayings can come back to bite you? :naughty:

Well from what I have seen as of yet, Takiap hasn't been too pleasant to converse with. That is not a fortune cookie saying, it is a very wise and profound teaching if you look into it with a degree of insight. But I will take your word for it MrPlum as you seem to be a decent fellow.
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TomTom55 wrote:
MrPlum wrote:
TomTom55 wrote:There is a saying that reads, 'if you don't have anything to say which would improve on the situation or conversation, then it is probably best to keep your mouth shut'.
From what I've seen, Takiap has only jewels of wisdom spilling from his lips. You do realize such Obama-esque, idealistic but unrealistic, fortune cookie sayings can come back to bite you? :naughty:

Well from what I have seen as of yet, Takiap hasn't been too pleasant to converse with. That is not a fortune cookie saying, it is a very wise and profound teaching if you look into it with a degree of insight. But I will take your word for it MrPlum as you seem to be a decent fellow.
oops, by the way I went out for a meal with a couple I know and my partner, I had no alcohol and a light meal as it is late in the evening, proud of that. I can feel this time that I do not wish for alcohol to be a part of my life as it once was ^^
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Okay Tom Tom.......no jokes or sarcasm this time.....lol. Congrats on dumping the beers. I need to be doing the same thing really, but I have about as much willpower as a wet paper bag when it comes to an icy cold beer on a very hot day.

Like you, I am not at all overweight, but in the last year or so I have seen my beer belly growing. Strangely enough, I can eat anything I choose, and I can eat as much as I want, and I still don't put on weight or develop a belly, but the beer seems to have found a way around my defenses... :shock:

Maybe a good time to get back on my bike. :thumb:

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TomTom55 wrote:...I will take your word for it MrPlum as you seem to be a decent fellow.
Thank you.

You like sayings.. Have you heard what the Turks say about a distended gut?... "A man without a stomach is like a house without a porch." Then there are the Yogis who say "The head should be cool, the knees warm and the belly soft." No mention of crunches or six-packs. So perhaps, it is just a cultural thing and you actually need to swill down a few more flagons. :naughty:

Coming back to your issue. Don't dismiss exercise too readily, we have a good example on the forum of 'sarge', who was depressed, sick, overweight and if i recall correctly, suicidal. He took up cycling and was transformed. What was so impressive, was it was pretty much all he did and it happened quickly. Little change in his diet.

Why exercise is so important is it gets the blood moving (circulation), opens up the sweat glands (detoxification), burns up calories (weight loss) tones up the muscles and tendons, lifts depression and restores vitality. You could probably get rid of your beer belly, just by exercising.

It isn't just fruit shakes, as has been suggested. Only if you are on a juice-only fast. Evacuating 'through the eye of a needle' is part and parcel of such a program so the Karate poster is partly right. Most people have the opposite problem, they are constipated, so opening the channels of elimination (cleansing) is very important. The body is intelligent and every now and again (not with everyone) will cause diarrhoea to flush the system. Otherwise, you are poisoning your own pond. Exercise, with sufficient water, can also do this. Alcohol is a diuretic, the body becomes dehydrated and gets fluid wherever it can. i.e. From your stools. In other words, alcohol causes constipation.

Based on your comments, you have a taste for alcohol rather than a need for blueberries.

What is positive, is you coming onto the forum for advice. At least you acknowledge there is a problem. Many drinkers refuse to acknowledge this. The question for you should be.. 'What is the real issue, here'? Is it really the belly?... a consequence. Is it the drinking?... a symptom. Or is there an underlying factor, causing you to drink to excess?

Bear with me as I get on my soap-box for a minute.

I believe in the 5 Levels of Healing. Body, mind, emotions, spirit and what is known as the energy body. An holistic view. Whenever you are trying to resolve a health problem, it is important to address the right layer or layers. For alcoholics (I am not saying you are one), they tend to have issues on several layers. Body, mind, emotions and spirit, for sure.

I have some experience dealing with hard drinkers. My attitude to them is very simple. Unless you are serious about stopping drinking, bugger off. Some will go through the motions, make all the right noises but you can tell, deep down, they don't really want to stop. Either the emotional wound they are trying to forget is too raw (and this can last a lifetime). Or they are too far gone with their addiction and need to reach rock bottom, before they finally wake up.

I don't know which, if any, apply to you. Only you do.

The point is. You can exercise, change your diet. Achieve what you are setting out to do but if you aren't addressing the underlying cause, (the correct level), you are basically just putting a sticking plaster over it. You may resolve the drinking but replace it with cigarettes, food, women, gambling to hard drugs. You get the idea.

Ok. End of sermon.

If you find you are struggling, feel free to come back on the forum or pm me. I'm always happy to chat. :thumb:
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@Takiap I don't have a problem with jokes or sarcasm as such, I guess it was just poorly timed you know? Don't worry I have let go of any hostile feelings towards you and sorry if I was a bit harsh. People are non-self and we change from moment to moment, we can be this way one minute and be that way the next, we are constantly in flux. So I take no offense to what you said even if you did not intend it and I hope you have not taken any as well. I am like you with regards to be able to eat what the hell I like and however much I like, the alcohol is what seems to pile on the pounds and result in a beer belly. Imagine a slender figure (not too slim) but with a little beer belly, looks silly, kind of like Jim Kerry in the Grinch. I hear swimming is the best form of exercise as it is a great cardio workout and there is little strain on your joints.

@MrPlum I do like 'my sayings' but I like particular ones :p And they are often teachings directly from the dharma. For example anger is like a hot coal, the longer you continue to hold on to it, the longer it will burn, so the logical thing to do is to let it go.

Anyway, I gave up on trying to find blueberries when I was in Tesco the other day, I had a faulty trolly wheel wise and the whole system of the fruit section was confusing me a little, even though I can speak Thai. I have been exercising daily but today I am giving it a day off so my body can rest and recover, I understand about working on different muscle groups on different days as well to let your muscle cells repair. I may go and have a look in the villa market or macro for some blueberries still though hehe. As for fresh fruit, I am not 100% fine with buying it from Tesco, I would rather go to a market and get some from there. I live near Soi Bongai which if you don't know is across the train tracks up on Soi 88. There is a small market open 4 days a week there that sells fruit and veg, I think that would be a good place to purchase a lot of items, had any experience going there yourself?

I think alcohol probably isn't the problem, it is just another self medication I have been using, I have been self medicating with all kinds of things since the age of 14, but I was diagnosed with general anxiety disorder, quite a severe form of it at the age of 12 and again at 18. I can feel this time though that deep down I do not wish to drink alcohol, I may drink on special occasions if it happens to be a someones birthday or something of that nature, but I will limit myself. As I mentioned I went out last night and didn't feel any temptation to drink with my meal. Ideally I would like to have some sessions with a psychologist, however living in Thailand makes that quite difficult, or at least I have found anyway. I have tried to find one starting maybe 2 or so years ago up until now in all of the 3 hospitals here. I had a meeting with one in the hospital at Soi 10 but he did not understand my issues and was me inclined to throw SSRIs at me which do nothing to me from past experience. There was one I think in Bangkok hospital who is there once a week, I booked an appointment but never ended up going for some reason or other (it wasn't because I didn't want to go), if I recall it was a financial matter. I wonder how much a session would cost, that hospital is expensive as it is and i doubt any health insurance would cover such a thing anyway. I have tried AA up in the Hilton and that didn't work, I have hit rock bottom which was ending up in hospital after my prtner returned home from work at lunch to find me surrounded by vomit and blue lips, I had taken a very high dose of valium and drank a lot of whiskey. That was 18 months ago now I would suggest. But yes, this time things feel different, I can tell inside that the desire to drink has been put out for whatever reason.

Buddhism has helped me become a better person than I once was, believe me if I were talking to you now 5 years ago, maybe even 3 years ago, I would come across more of an obnoxious twat than I may already appear to be. Thanks again for your help and kind words, I will take you up on your offer of a pm if needs be. I feel this topic has evolved into something different from the original intention, but as I often say on forums, that is the nature of conversation is it not? It hardly ever stays on one topic for too long.

Have a good weekend all, including you Takiap, get on your bike hehe. I will keep updating if that's cool, also if anybody knows about a psychologist, a decent one that is and prices that would help so so much, I have needed to open up to a professional for years now, back in England I was not ready and the opportunity was there, now it is the other way around. Anxiety disorders are not as recognized here in Thailand as some of you may be aware of, so it is hard to get help or for the general public to understand.

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The problem with 'sayings' is they are only useful if you remember them and apply them, in the moment. In fact the whole area of knowledge is like that. That library of 'psycho-babble' books you may have acquired, in order to understand and resolve your GAD, does very little except give you a whole new vocabulary with which to impress others, unless you actually apply the lessons. Most people don't. Or they only do it for a short spell before moving on to the next 'magic bullet'.

I've met many, when on my own journey, who sounded wise and knowledgeable but any length of time with them revealed they hadn't actually been able to resolve their own issues. Psychiatrists were the worst. They are focussed on the mind and sometimes the body (relaxation training, bio-feedback) and invariably ended up falling back on drugs because of the limited number of tools in their toolbox. I had to remove myself from society and all nervous system stimulation for a year and practiced yoga for 5 hours per day before I finally broke out of my funk. Most of what I did was physical, while giving my fried nervous system plenty of rest.

For those who don't have the opportunity or the dedication required, the best they can do is just find a way to cope. Eliminate whatever stresses you, from your life. This, alone can make a huge difference. I don't suggest anyone stop smoking, if it is all they have to calm themselves.

Too long being anxious, or on drugs, IMO can effect permanent changes to the brain as well as your crown jewels. The Doctors don't tell you that, when they are handing out the toxic sweeties.

Psychiatry is worthwhile, if you just need someone to talk to. But it's a bit on the expensive side, don't you think? Why should I pay large fees, so someone who can't actually cure me, can drive around in a BMW?

GAD is a difficult problem to resolve because you don't really know what it is that is bothering you and lots of forest fires spring up, to mislead. When you progress to panic anxiety, it is no picnic for those who suffer. What most sufferers don't understand is that what they are going through is perfectly normal for their situation. Their body is acting as it should do. e.g. The fight or flight response is triggered releasing too much cortisol into the system, which is supposedly running around your brain. Then, not enough, as the adrenals get exhausted. No need to analyze why your inner child needs a hug. You just need to support the adrenals until they heal. A quick test is a couple of days on synthetic cortisol. If your psychological symptoms are relieved, then it could be your adrenals are tired.

The problem with SSRIs and similar is they are very hard to stop taking. One may wonder if they have been designed that way to keep you suckling on the pharma tit. As soon as you do, your anxiety levels increase and you may feel suicidal. So you go back to the drugs. Fiendishly clever.

I won't prattle on but you'll gather I've some experience, which I'm happy to share. Others may have their own stories or suggestions.
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MrPlum wrote:The problem with 'sayings' is they are only useful if you remember them and apply them, in the moment. In fact the whole area of knowledge is like that. That library of 'psycho-babble' books you may have acquired, in order to understand and resolve your GAD, does very little except give you a whole new vocabulary with which to impress others, unless you actually apply the lessons. Most people don't. Or they only do it for a short spell before moving on to the next 'magic bullet'.

I've met many, when on my own journey, who sounded wise and knowledgeable but any length of time with them revealed they hadn't actually been able to resolve their own issues. Psychiatrists were the worst. They are focussed on the mind and sometimes the body (relaxation training, bio-feedback) and invariably ended up falling back on drugs because of the limited number of tools in their toolbox. I had to remove myself from society and all nervous system stimulation for a year and practiced yoga for 5 hours per day before I finally broke out of my funk. Most of what I did was physical, while giving my fried nervous system plenty of rest.

For those who don't have the opportunity or the dedication required, the best they can do is just find a way to cope. Eliminate whatever stresses you, from your life. This, alone can make a huge difference. I don't suggest anyone stop smoking, if it is all they have to calm themselves.

Too long being anxious, or on drugs, IMO can effect permanent changes to the brain as well as your crown jewels. The Doctors don't tell you that, when they are handing out the toxic sweeties.

Psychiatry is worthwhile, if you just need someone to talk to. But it's a bit on the expensive side, don't you think? Why should I pay large fees, so someone who can't actually cure me, can drive around in a BMW?

GAD is a difficult problem to resolve because you don't really know what it is that is bothering you and lots of forest fires spring up, to mislead. When you progress to panic anxiety, it is no picnic for those who suffer. What most sufferers don't understand is that what they are going through is perfectly normal for their situation. Their body is acting as it should do. e.g. The fight or flight response is triggered releasing too much cortisol into the system, which is supposedly running around your brain. Then, not enough, as the adrenals get exhausted. No need to analyze why your inner child needs a hug. You just need to support the adrenals until they heal. A quick test is a couple of days on synthetic cortisol. If your psychological symptoms are relieved, then it could be your adrenals are tired.

The problem with SSRIs and similar is they are very hard to stop taking. One may wonder if they have been designed that way to keep you suckling on the pharma tit. As soon as you do, your anxiety levels increase and you may feel suicidal. So you go back to the drugs. Fiendishly clever.

I won't prattle on but you'll gather I've some experience, which I'm happy to share. Others may have their own stories or suggestions.
Thanks for the post Plum. I don't mean to sound high and mighty here but a lot of what you said I already knew. Knowledge read in a book, studied over and over for years at a time is useless unless you act upon it in real life and have direct insights into said knowledge.

I also know so much about drugs in general I could most like become a pharmacist lol. I have withdrawn myself off of benzodiazepines 3 times in the past, one of those times giving myself a seizure, yea I learned that lesson the hard way. The most valium I have been taking is 400mg a day, no that is not a typo, 400mg. However as of recent days I am down to 30mg a day which is a lot less, yet it is still a blanket covering the problem that exists. I have had issues with hypochondria from the age of 12 where I was convinced I had cancers and things like that, into my mid teens it drove me crazy but then an acid trip at the age of 19 totally changed my anxiety over night into generalized anxiety, I no longer have hypochondria but I have GAD. I had taken acid plenty of times before then as well without any issues so it was rather random.

All of this suffering, this self destruction and ignorance lead me to Buddhism before I decided to come here. That helped a lot and is still helping to this day.

Anyway, instead of a psychologist what would you suggest? I feel I need to find the root of this anxiety and get it out in the open, a therapist, psychologist, whatever, just somebody with experience and somebody who is a professional and won't chuck pills at me.
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TomTom55 wrote:Anyway, instead of a psychologist what would you suggest?
Without knowing what you've tried and your history I wouldn't presume. You'll need to pm me because we are long past 'specific foods' and IMO there's no need for you to reveal, publicly, any more of yourself.
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A quick update.

A was in Tesco for the second time this week and final saw the berries, they were 160baht. I have noticed the prices of things have gone up recently again, inflation. the baht is getting stronger >:( I chose not to buy them as that is quite expensive for what I saw in quantity and I have gotten my diet down balanced well now. Today marks the 2 week mark without alcohol and I have continued with exercising, I already have started to tone up a little physically and do not have a noticeable beer belly as such, just a very very slight one. I am going to continue to tone and the smoothie machine is wonderful. Thanks for the information and tips here people, regards
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