Or the post immediately prior to it.Rob c wrote:Standard whisky is 40% alcohol, not proof, vodka is 37.5% unless you buy blue label.
Self edit: Kraka's Dad beat me to it, I hadn't read the next page, doh!
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Rob,
I was mescaline which as you correctly state is poyote related.
I was under the impression that mescal was an alcoholic beverage that contained a small amount of mescaline. I may be wrong about that. I have also heard that the worm (or a maggot) is used that feeds on the plant and passes on the mind altering halucagenic properites to the drink.
This could of course all be Hispanic Blarney. I will check with my brother who has lived there for thirty years.
I was mescaline which as you correctly state is poyote related.
I was under the impression that mescal was an alcoholic beverage that contained a small amount of mescaline. I may be wrong about that. I have also heard that the worm (or a maggot) is used that feeds on the plant and passes on the mind altering halucagenic properites to the drink.
This could of course all be Hispanic Blarney. I will check with my brother who has lived there for thirty years.
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A converstaion fired up last night netween myself and a friend about Whisky and a couple of things came up that have not been mentioned so far with regards to branding. Jaime mentioned Bell's and Chivas Regal but I am not sure about the pedigree of either of those. What I do know about Chivas though is that it has an age on it, I believe that in most countries that age must be genuine or the seller could be convicted of fraud by the relevant government department.
What happens in many cases is that the Scotch Whisky, although originating in Scotland is blended and bottled abroad to make savings in cost. There is no guarantee that the blending is the same as that in Scotland.
There are parallels with beer and cigarettes.
Marlboro Lights do not taste the same in the US as Europe and different again from thosse in the far east. The reason for this is that the brand name guarantees nothing although Phillip Morris try their best to make the cigarettes taste similar in all regions. The Marlboro Lights that are obtainable here are manufactured in South East Asia.
Heineken beer tastes different here than it does in Holland and different agin in the UK. This is because it is brewed in three different places under different places although the Dutch company goes to great lenghts to ensure cinsistency.
Some Brands of Scotch Whisky are maunfacture in the same way. When using Brand names there is no obligation whatsoever on the manufacturing company to keep consistency. I do believe though that to be labelled Scotch Whisky the prouct must contain Whisky Produced in Scotland.
I cannot believe that some of the cheaper Scotch Whiskies available here in Thailand are manufactured and bottled in Scotland. It would not be economically viable to do this. Spey Royal and 100 Pipers sell for about 300 Baht or less. Other Brands are available at a greater cost and ther a re many priced in between..
My approach is that if I like something I will drink it. If I do not I will drink something else. I could not give a toss what label it has on it. I find this label fetish even more fickle than labels on garments. At least others can see the labels on garments. When you are drinking a glass of Whisky nobody but yourself and the bar person knows what you are drinking so you may as well drink what you like.
What happens in many cases is that the Scotch Whisky, although originating in Scotland is blended and bottled abroad to make savings in cost. There is no guarantee that the blending is the same as that in Scotland.
There are parallels with beer and cigarettes.
Marlboro Lights do not taste the same in the US as Europe and different again from thosse in the far east. The reason for this is that the brand name guarantees nothing although Phillip Morris try their best to make the cigarettes taste similar in all regions. The Marlboro Lights that are obtainable here are manufactured in South East Asia.
Heineken beer tastes different here than it does in Holland and different agin in the UK. This is because it is brewed in three different places under different places although the Dutch company goes to great lenghts to ensure cinsistency.
Some Brands of Scotch Whisky are maunfacture in the same way. When using Brand names there is no obligation whatsoever on the manufacturing company to keep consistency. I do believe though that to be labelled Scotch Whisky the prouct must contain Whisky Produced in Scotland.
I cannot believe that some of the cheaper Scotch Whiskies available here in Thailand are manufactured and bottled in Scotland. It would not be economically viable to do this. Spey Royal and 100 Pipers sell for about 300 Baht or less. Other Brands are available at a greater cost and ther a re many priced in between..
My approach is that if I like something I will drink it. If I do not I will drink something else. I could not give a toss what label it has on it. I find this label fetish even more fickle than labels on garments. At least others can see the labels on garments. When you are drinking a glass of Whisky nobody but yourself and the bar person knows what you are drinking so you may as well drink what you like.
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I think you nailed that one on the head Guess, in all categories. Do the local brands of "Scotch" actually say on the label that it is "Scotch"?
Reminds me of eons ago when the only foreign brand of cigs here were Marlboro red and Salem.....from the US bases BX system. All the puyings loved Salems. They had (and still have) the Thai brand Tai Faun but for some reason they HAD to have Salems.
To make a long story short, when Salems were not available, they found Marlboro reds and swabbed the paper with a liquid brand of Tiger Balm to turn it into a menthol cig. Talk about red eye...I don't think Tiger Balm liquid was meant to be used in that way
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Reminds me of eons ago when the only foreign brand of cigs here were Marlboro red and Salem.....from the US bases BX system. All the puyings loved Salems. They had (and still have) the Thai brand Tai Faun but for some reason they HAD to have Salems.
To make a long story short, when Salems were not available, they found Marlboro reds and swabbed the paper with a liquid brand of Tiger Balm to turn it into a menthol cig. Talk about red eye...I don't think Tiger Balm liquid was meant to be used in that way
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I can not say with 100% certainty but I am 99% sure that 100 Pipers and Spey Royal have Scotch written on the label. Mekong of course does not but everynody knows that that is a western style whisky probably made with iongreients as close as pooible to the real thing unlike Lao Kao which I think is made only from rice.
An interesting fact that I only picked up a couple of months ago was about Burbon. It can only be produced in Kentucky and may be only Burbon County but I am not sure. Jack Daniels is from Tenessee so can not use the name Burbon. This is similar to the rules imposed upon wines in France. Champagne can ony be called Cgampagne if it is produced in the clearly defined borders of the region. Others regions are Bordeaux and Chablis.
An interesting fact that I only picked up a couple of months ago was about Burbon. It can only be produced in Kentucky and may be only Burbon County but I am not sure. Jack Daniels is from Tenessee so can not use the name Burbon. This is similar to the rules imposed upon wines in France. Champagne can ony be called Cgampagne if it is produced in the clearly defined borders of the region. Others regions are Bordeaux and Chablis.
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You are correct sir. The Jack Daniels I have here states " Old Number 7 Tenesse Sour Mash Whisky". No reference to burbon at all. PeteGuess wrote: An interesting fact that I only picked up a couple of months ago was about Burbon. It can only be produced in Kentucky and may be only Burbon County but I am not sure. Jack Daniels is from Tenessee so can not use the name Burbon.
The EU is trying to impose all kinds of restrictions of what can be made where nowadays. I don't know any of the outcomes, but the kind of thing going on here is that stilton ought only to be made in Stilton. I'm sure however that there is not a similar attempt to make sure cheddar only comes from Cheddar. Or quite where that leaves Red Leicester or Double Gloucester., I have no idea. (here's my know all bit on cheese - a double gloucester is no named as it's twice the size of a single one. sorry)
Scotch whisky must be distilled in Scotland to quite stringent rules, though I doubt the same criteria apply to scotch eggs.
Scotch whisky must be distilled in Scotland to quite stringent rules, though I doubt the same criteria apply to scotch eggs.
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from wikipedia:
A Scotch egg is a snack food of Scottish origin consisting of a cold, hard-boiled egg removed from its shell, wrapped in a sausage meat mixture, coated in breadcrumbs, and deep-fried. It is eaten cold, typically with salad and pickles.
Scotch eggs were traditionally a Scottish breakfast or picnic food, designed to be eaten fresh. However, in the UK at least, they have acquired an unfashionable, downmarket reputation due to the preponderance of pre-packed, plastic-wrapped Scotch eggs sold at convenience stores and service stations. These are generally made with very cheap meat and eggs.
Similar to the Scotch egg is the gala pie — a usually loaf-shaped pie with a shortcrust case. Unlike the Scotch egg, the meat is not sausagemeat, but rather a meat filling like that in a traditional pork pie. Classically, these have several whole eggs embedded in the pie, although cheap convenience versions can use a long cylindrical core that resembles a single extremely elongated egg, made from the processed components of several real eggs [1].
The character Keith from the acclaimed BBC television series The Office, created by Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant, was often seen eating Scotch eggs in the break room.
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yes, they are as bad as they sound
A Scotch egg is a snack food of Scottish origin consisting of a cold, hard-boiled egg removed from its shell, wrapped in a sausage meat mixture, coated in breadcrumbs, and deep-fried. It is eaten cold, typically with salad and pickles.
Scotch eggs were traditionally a Scottish breakfast or picnic food, designed to be eaten fresh. However, in the UK at least, they have acquired an unfashionable, downmarket reputation due to the preponderance of pre-packed, plastic-wrapped Scotch eggs sold at convenience stores and service stations. These are generally made with very cheap meat and eggs.
Similar to the Scotch egg is the gala pie — a usually loaf-shaped pie with a shortcrust case. Unlike the Scotch egg, the meat is not sausagemeat, but rather a meat filling like that in a traditional pork pie. Classically, these have several whole eggs embedded in the pie, although cheap convenience versions can use a long cylindrical core that resembles a single extremely elongated egg, made from the processed components of several real eggs [1].
The character Keith from the acclaimed BBC television series The Office, created by Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant, was often seen eating Scotch eggs in the break room.
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yes, they are as bad as they sound
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The first paragraph doesn't put me off at all. It sounds as if it could be tasty if done well. It's like a compact breakfast, you have your egg, sausage, toast (breadcrumbs) all done up nicely and deep fried. If usually served cold, could even make for a good lunchbox item for kids or adults. Could even be a good idea for a bar menu snack item?
The rest concerning the convenience store versions, no thanks. Thanks Jim. Pete
The rest concerning the convenience store versions, no thanks. Thanks Jim. Pete
I just talked to the queen and we may actually try to make some here. Carrefour sells some good home made sausage of different varieties where we could strip the skin and mince the meat to allow forming around the egg. The only real problem is the deep fry. Could do it but a lot of oil and a big mess, we'll see. 
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PeteI think they could sell well at the bars in HH and the expat bars here in sin city. A lot would depend upon refrigerated shelf life after deep frying. If a week or so, OK. Any too old, there isn't a Thai hound in the Kingdom who wouldn't enjoy one! PeteJim wrote:That bar snack might just be an idea. If you eat your scotch egg with a bucket load of prik nahm bplah, it might be OK.