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The airport (Don Mueang) we all knew and loved, and that most of us used until a few years ago... I wonder what the damage to all those aircraft will be
Certainly the majority of those aircraft sat in the water at Don Mueang are inactive if not all of them, HH, they've been parked up there like that for years.
Actually I see that the tourism authority has been complaining about those photos as poorly informed people all over the world are looking at them and assuming that it's Bangkoks main airport.
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Bangkok-Samut Sakhon trains halted
Published: 10/11/2011 at 02:16 PM
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The State Railway of Thailand on Thursday announced it has suspended train services between Wong Wian Yai station in Bangkok and Mahachai station in Samut Sakhon, on the Gulf, because of flooding on part of the intercity rail link.

The rail tracks between Bang Bon station and Rang Pho station were this morning covered with floodwater about 50cm deep. The water elsewhere in Bang Khunthian district was measured at between 20cm and 30cm deep.

Outbound trains were forced to stop at Bang Bon station and the passengers had to transfer to other types of transport.

The SRT later issued an announcement that train services on the Wong Wian Yai-Mahachai route were halted. There was no indication when the track might reopen.
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Bangkok Post Published 10/11/11 17:51

BMA: Water receding

Floodwater has receded by one to four centimetres in several eastern and western districts of the capital city, Bangkok Metropolitan Administration spokesman Wasant Meewong said on Wednesday.

The districts where water had dropped by 1-4cm were Sai Mai, Bang Sue, Nong Chok, Lat Krabang, Khannayao, Lat Phrao, and Thawi Watthana.

In Bang Phlat district alone, the water level dropped another 10cm to about 40cm high.

However, the water levels in Min Buri and Khlong Sam Wa districts east of Bangkok went up 1cm.

The floodwater on Phahon Yothin and Vibhavadi Rangsit roads did not spread further to elsewhere.

The water levels in Khlong Lat Phrao, Khlong Bang Bua and Khlong Prem Prachakorn which took water from Khlong Hok Wa were still high but stabilised.

More water pumps have been installed at Khlong Samsen, Bang Sue, Bang Khen Mai, Phraya Ratchamontri and Sanamchai stations and are all running in full capacity.

Soldiers have helped to clear garbage and weeds from in front of water pumpting stations and district offices have been allowed to seek an additional budget to hire more workers to clear garbage and other objects obstructing water flows, the BMA spokesman said.
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For people who are thinking about flying south from Swampy and then making their way up, Thai Airways are offering 47-58 % discount for 5 flights from BKK to southern provinces from Nov 11-Dec 10
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Not sure what to believe anymore but this is the latest

Bangkok 'dry' by Nov 20

Published: 10/11/2011 at 06:57 PM
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In a live TV3 flood analysis this evening, Chavalit Chatararatt, Team Group water business chief, predicted that if all conditions are right, Bangkok will be dry by November 20.

Mr Chavalit noted that all the provinces along the Chao Phraya see declining flood level and some provinces such as Ayutthaya is scheduled to hold a Big Cleaning Day.

Big Bag, 6km long, works. There are two gaps letting in about 40% inflow lessening pressure on Big Bag. Thus Dr Seri Suparathit's prediction that the floodwater would build up level and eventually overflow the Big Bag is now moot.

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I received an email today from ENGEL & VÖLKERS agents, just routine letter to clients on their files. It reads:-

Dear Valued Customer,
The flood situation in Bangkok gets worse by the day. Many of our staff have their homes flooded and their families are in distress. We also have noticed a stiff decline in demand for sales or rentals in Bangkok. Consequently we have decided to keep our office in Thong-Lor closed until November 30th. However all our staff will be on stand-by at their homes and can be reached by email or their mobile numbers. Even though viewings are getting difficult, we will continue to do our best to match offer and demand.

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It still looks very grim there. I really feel for the flood victims.
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Highway 340 expected to reopen today

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/2 ... open-today
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It is a bit ironic that many of Bangkoks Loy Krathong celebrations have been cancelled due to there being too much water.
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Take a look at this one. Try living like this for 24 hours, these people are looking at 3 months. They just seem to accept it with little complaint. There's a lesson there for us somewhere. Pete :cheers:

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PET wrote:It would be so much easier ( for most of us) to understand if road maps were published showing the new areas of flooding and its probable direction.

I do have Bangkok maps but this would be so much better to quickly understand

Definitely - I need to know whether I'll be able to get to MorChit to buy wellies! Meanwhile a friend who lives Soi 11 Sukhumvit area says it's still dry round there, but they have been advised it might not stay that way much longer.
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Some of these reports are predicting things getting much worse in Bangkok. So much for the "dry in 10 days" hype. Pete :cheers:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/nationa ... 69547.html

Bangkok Flood Update
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Special for The Nation November 9, 2011 5:04 am


When a General's fighting a losing battle, it's maybe best for him not to say out loud that defeat is inevitable.

There are also many Generals claiming and disclaiming command with the changing tides of good and bad news.

There are also many "experts" providing at least as many prognoses.

In short, it is hard to get a clear picture.

Here's my own view, gleaned from monitoring what sources of hard facts I have been able to muster.

A city-wide deluge is inevitable

After floodwaters entered Bangkok from the North and the Northeast, inflows were stemmed by building the "big bag wall" (so named for its 2.5 MT sandbags, instead of the usual 50 kg ones) and then rebuilding the impaired sluice gate at Khlong Samwa.

Since then, despite maximum pumping efforts, water levels in the initially-flooded areas have risen or at best stabilized. Meanwhile, floodwaters have spread out to extensive new areas. Drainage canal levels have all been steadily rising. All this can only mean that there continues to be a substantial net inflow of water into Bangkok.

Parts of central Eastern Bangkok -- notably (in sequence) Bangkapi, Ramkahhaeng Road, Srinakharin Road, and Phetburi Road -- look sure to be under water by early next week. After Phetburi Road goes under, it will not take long for these waters to flow to Sukhumvit and the rest of downtown Bangkok. Once in downtown Bangkok, this water will await that already steadily flowing down from North and due to pass Victory Monument shortly.

An extended period of high tides begins tomorrow and continues for just over a week. This will not only affect the rate at which water can be pumped out, but bring in additional water as river and then canal banks overflow.

Just as this stage of the flood is becoming entrenched by the end of next week, floodwaters building up behind the "big bag wall" will begin to pour over the top, bringing a second stronger and unstoppable stage to the flood.

No need to analyse the surrounding provinces, as those parts that are not yet under water obviously soon will be.

How deep?

It is hard to say how deep flooding levels will go. My best guess is that the first wave will take all areas to 30-150 cm (depending on contours), and that the second and larger wave will at least double this.

How long?

It's going to be at least another 2-3 weeks before Bangkok floodwaters peak. It's anybody's guess as to how long it will take for this water to flow (mainly) or be pumped (partially) out, but to say 2-3 weeks from the flood peak would probably be over optimistic. It'll be at very least another month before Bangkok is relatively dry, and then it will take some time to clean up.

Economic consequences?

It's too early to assess, but -- with the country's economic heart stopped, a large number of factors out of action, and a severe disruption to logistics - the economic cost must be high.

How's life?

Those supermarkets still open show many empty shelves. Bottled water is hard to find and then expensive. Tap water supplies are still good in many areas, but can't but become tainted as more and more sewers overflow. Garbage collection is not feasible in floodwater deeper than about 50-60 cm. Electricity gets cut off in a zone when water approaches the lowest meter attached to a pole within that zone. For this with toilets that still work, the sewage joins the floodwater; those with toilets that no longer work have to innovate. Telephones work, but become unreliable as the roadside junction boxes flood.

Access to medical attention and drugs is limited.

Large army trucks can plow through a certain depth of floodwater, but a good number have already succumbed. Both the Navy and the Army are able to assist with boats, but resources are already stretched before the worst has come.

Life is not easy, and not going to get easier in the coming weeks.

The aggregate bodyweight of Bangkokians is likely to show a significant decline, if anybody's measuring.

I hope that I am being pessimistic.
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Lat Krabang on alert, let's see if Swampy can hold out :(

Lat Krabang advised, worse to come

Published: 11/11/2011 at 05:46 PM
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People in Lat Krabang district in eastern Bangkok should prepare for the arrival of a larger amount of floodwater about a week from now, a senior academic has warned.

Khlong Prewet Burirom, a main canal in the district, was expected to be full in a week a less, Assoc Prof Komsan Malisi, a deputy dean of the faculty of engineering of the King Monkut’s Institute of Technology Ladkrabang, said of Friday. He is chairman of the flood watch centre of the faculty.

He said the estimation came from data collected regarding the amount of floodwater heading to the sea through eastern Bangkok.

The continuous drop in water levels in Khlong Saen Saep over the past two days was a good sign, but more water was coming from Khlong Hok Wa and would cause a significant rise in the level of Khlong Prawet Burirom in the next five days to a week, he said.

Water from Khlong Hok Wa drains into Khlong Saen Sap. which is connected with Khlong Prawet Burirom.

The current decrease in water levels in Khlong Saeng Saep in Min Buri and Nong Chok districts was a result of the increase in the number of water pumps in operation, from eight to 20, h said.

Each pump used to drain water out of the canal into neighbouring Chachoengsao province had a capacity of emptying 3 cubic metres per second, he said. The pumps were not fully operated previously because the water levels in Chachoengsao were still high and communities along the canal receiving water from Bangkok would be seriously affected.

Khlong Prawet Burirom also receives water from Khlong Lam Plathew whose water levels were expected to be rising as well, said Assoc Prof Komsan.Therefore Lat Krabang would be the next district to be significantly affected by the arrival of the floodwater in Khlong Prawet Burirom.

The water level in the canal was projected to begin rising between 2cm and 5cm every day from now until it was full in five days to a week, he said.

Many communities would inevitably be affected to some degree, he said.

The management of the Suvarnabhumi international airport was accelerating draining water out of main canals downstream such as Khlong Lat Krabang, Khlong Nong Nguhao, and Khlong Chorakhe Yai to help mitigate the impact of the coming water in Lat Krabang district, he said.
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