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Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:48 pm
by Big Boy
That poses a question bearing in mind the Iranian Embassy announcement. Does that mean anybody leaving Thailand after being vaccinated with Sputnik will not be allowed back?

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:20 am
by buksida
Private sector seeks to import 5m jab doses
The Joint Standing Committee on Commerce, Industry and Banking (JSCCIB) plans to ask Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha to allow the private sector to import 5 million doses of Covid-19 vaccines by the end of this year during a meeting with the premier next Wednesday.

Gen Prayut has expressed interest in the private sector helping with vaccine distribution after criticism of slow progress in the jab rollout.

"The government wants to talk with us after we announced plans to help with the vaccination scheme," said JSCCIB chairman Supant Mongkolsuthree.

The committee wants the government speed up processes in issuing import licences for vaccines approved by the Food and Drug Administration.

It also wants authorities to reduce unnecessary import procedures, which usually take around 1-2 months for purchases.

This may be too slow to use the vaccines needed to control the third wave of the outbreak, said Mr Supant, also chairman of the Federation of Thai Industries.

JSCCIB said the 5 million doses would be distributed to company workers, who play an important role in driving the economy.

Gen Prayut said earlier Thailand aims to purchase 35 million more doses of Covid-19 vaccines, in addition to the 65 million already bought for the government's national inoculation programme.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/21 ... -jab-doses

"By the end of the year" ... "Too slow" ... Really. Thailand's Kafkaesque layers upon layers of bureaucracy will be the end of it ...

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:11 am
by GroveHillWanderer
Dannie Boy wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:03 am
Adverse symptoms in seven Sinovac recipients
Seven people suffered from partial paralysis after receiving the Sinovac vaccine, a doctor from Chulalongkorn University said.

'Perfectly safe' said that muppet health minister ...
And that’s from a relatively small group of people, so a much higher incidence than the AZ vaccine!!
These were cases of temporary, partial paralysis though, not death. Also, the symptoms were treatable. The apparently-linked (and extremely rare) problems with the AZ vaccine involved actual deaths.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:35 am
by Dannie Boy
GroveHillWanderer wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:11 am
Dannie Boy wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:03 am
Adverse symptoms in seven Sinovac recipients
Seven people suffered from partial paralysis after receiving the Sinovac vaccine, a doctor from Chulalongkorn University said.

'Perfectly safe' said that muppet health minister ...
And that’s from a relatively small group of people, so a much higher incidence than the AZ vaccine!!
These were cases of temporary, partial paralysis though, not death. Also, the symptoms were treatable. The apparently-linked (and extremely rare) problems with the AZ vaccine involved actual deaths.
Well if I were offered either vaccine, I’d opt for the AZ version.

Re: Covid Politics UK/EU/US/AUS/NZ

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:02 pm
by handdrummer
One of the drug companies is in trial stage with a vaccine pill. So far it looks promising. That would change a lot of people's minds.

Re: Covid Politics UK/EU/US/AUS/NZ

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:24 pm
by pharvey
handdrummer wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:02 pm One of the drug companies is in trial stage with a vaccine pill. So far it looks promising. That would change a lot of people's minds.
Being Pfizer, but it's a long way off yet.......

Re: Covid Politics UK/EU/US/AUS/NZ

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:58 pm
by handdrummer
pharvey wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:24 pm
handdrummer wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:02 pm One of the drug companies is in trial stage with a vaccine pill. So far it looks promising. That would change a lot of people's minds.
Being Pfizer, but it's a long way off yet.......
The virus will be around long enough that the pill we be available to treat people.

Re: Covid Politics UK/EU/US/AUS/NZ

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:11 pm
by pharvey
handdrummer wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:58 pm
pharvey wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:24 pm
handdrummer wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:02 pm One of the drug companies is in trial stage with a vaccine pill. So far it looks promising. That would change a lot of people's minds.
Being Pfizer, but it's a long way off yet.......
The virus will be around long enough that the pill we be available to treat people.
Agreed. It would be a great step forward if it works and when available. We have nothing similar for Flu or similar viruses, so whilst hopeful, I'm not holding my breath TBO.

Re: Covid Politics UK/EU/US/AUS/NZ

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:16 am
by handdrummer
pharvey wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:11 pm
handdrummer wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:58 pm
pharvey wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:24 pm

Being Pfizer, but it's a long way off yet.......
The virus will be around long enough that the pill we be available to treat people.
Agreed. It would be a great step forward if it works and when available. We have nothing similar for Flu or similar viruses, so whilst hopeful, I'm not holding my breath TBO.
If you held your breath, waiting for the great leap forward, it would be the last thing you held. :cry:

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:48 am
by buksida
Vaccine travel rules widen rift between China and the West
With the resumption of global travel on the horizon, some people are discovering that their choice of vaccine could determine where they’re allowed to go.

Hong Kong citizen Marie Cheung travels to mainland China regularly for her work with an electric vehicle company, a routine that’s been interrupted by lengthy mandated quarantine stays since the pandemic began.

Of the two vaccine options available in the city -- one from China’s Sinovac Biotech Ltd and another developed by Pfizer Inc and BioNTech SE -- Cheung plans to sign up for Sinovac for easier movement in and out of the mainland. Meanwhile, her British husband will go for the Pfizer-BioNTech shot, she says to boost his chances of visiting family in the UK.

“For people who need to work in or return to mainland, the Chinese vaccine is the only option for them,” Cheung said. “Westerners will only choose the vaccine recognised by their home country.”

As inoculation efforts ramp up around the world, a patchwork of approvals across countries and regions is laying the groundwork for a global vaccine bifurcation, where the shot you get could determine which countries you can enter and work in. This is emerging most starkly in China, which so far recognizes only Chinese-made shots while its vaccines don’t have approval in the US or Western Europe.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/21056 ... d-the-west

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:38 pm
by Lost
I see the EU is showing its true colours and suing the only company that is delivering vaccines around the world at cost price. Not only that, but they rubbished the vaccine to its citizens with exaggerated claims regarding adverse side effects. Some countries even have stockpiles of the stuff they refuse to give out. Couldn't make it up.

Yet some stubborn folk still think it was a bad idea to leave the EU. :shock:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reu ... NKBN2CD1EL

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:53 pm
by Big Boy
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Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:46 am
by PeteC
Probe after woman dies soon after jab

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... -after-jab

The Ministry of Public Health has pledged to perform an autopsy on the body of a saleswoman whose relatives claimed she died two days after she received the second dose of Sinovac's Covid-19 vaccine in Samut Sakhon.

The ministry's move came after her relatives disclosed details to the media on Sunday, saying they were concerned that it might be linked to the doses of Sinovac's Covid-19 vaccine she had recently been given.

The 23-year-old saleswoman whose name was not disclosed on Monday received her second shot of Sinovac's Covid-19 vaccine on April 21 in Samut Sakhon where she worked.

The following day she was very ill with vomiting and a headache. Later that day she was admitted to a hospital in Pathum Thani and was pronounced dead just two days later on April 23. Her funeral rite is being held at a temple in her hometown of Ang Thong.

According to her relatives, they have received no formal explanation for her sudden death.

Chawetsan Namwat, acting director of the Emergency Health Hazard and Disease Control Division of the ministry, said at a press conference that it is too early to say whether the vaccine had been a factor.

"We will perform an autopsy on her body to determine the true cause of her death,'' Dr Chawetsan said.

He went on to say that the case had also been submitted to the ministry's committee on Adverse-Event Following Immunisation to investigate.

"We have yet to find a death we could attribute to the vaccine. There is no need to suspend the roll-out as we strongly believe it can and will help to bring the outbreak under control.

"However, it is our duty to investigate and we will let the public know once the facts become clearer,'' he said.

The doctor also noted that two other deaths which some had blamed on the vaccine had been proven to have been the result of pre-existing health complaints -- those of a monk in Bangkok and a man in Samut Prakan.

In both cases, autopsies ruled out the Covid-19 vaccine as the cause.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:53 am
by Big Boy
A 23 year old saleswoman??? I'm glad to see Thailand are targeting 'at risk' groups first :?

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:20 pm
by hhinner
Being in Samut Sakhon she was probably included in the "mass" vaccination effort after the fish market outbreak.