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Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:18 am
by HHTel
My daughter in the UK still wears a mask when shopping or in a crowd and she says that she'll continue to do so.
As I've already said, masks were common in this part of the world long before covid and will still be as common long after covid.
That’s because Asians, especially in Japan, China and Taiwan, have worn masks for a host of cultural and environmental reasons, including non-medical ones, since at least the 1950s.
Japanese wear masks when feeling sick as a courtesy to stop any sneezes from landing on other people. Japanese women mask their faces on days when they don’t have time to put on makeup. Philippine motorcycle riders wear masks to deflect vehicular exhausts in heavy traffic. In Taiwan, citizens say masks keep their faces warm in the winter and offer a sense of protection from air pollution, including any airborne germs.
In the streets of Taipei almost every second person wears a mask and on public transit nine in 10 if not more.
Hospitals and some schools in Taiwan require that anyone who enters wear a mask.
You only have to look around Thailand. Workers wear 'full head' masks (balaclavas) to protect themselves from the sun. There are a host of reasons to wear a mask in certain situations.
Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:16 pm
by lindosfan1
2/cb wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:33 am
lindosfan1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:31 am
Well I am in Kent still people wearing masks especially in crowded shops. Why would you wear a mask on the beach?
Why would you wear a mask anywhere? Isn’t life just too short to go through it with a nappy on your face?
Sorry that is the stupidest comment on this thread. I have severe copd, my Thai wife wears one as well. People are still catching this and dying, if your stupid enough to risk it do not criticise people who do wear one.

Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:20 pm
by handdrummer
New Rules:
You only have to wear a mask if there is more than one person in the room.
Zero Covid can be attained if everyone only breathes in and not out.
Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:21 pm
by Dannie Boy
lindosfan1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:16 pm
2/cb wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:33 am
lindosfan1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:31 am
Well I am in Kent still people wearing masks especially in crowded shops. Why would you wear a mask on the beach?
Why would you wear a mask anywhere? Isn’t life just too short to go through it with a nappy on your face?
Sorry that is the stupidest comment on this thread. I have severe copd, my Thai wife wears one as well. People are still catching this and dying, if your stupid enough to risk it do not criticise people who do wear one.
I’m also in Kent and whilst the ratio might have decreased, there are still people wearing masks - my wife one of them. Although the vaccines have significantly reduced the severity of Covid, people are still catching it, so if anyone believes that a mask is a benefit, then what’s the problem?
Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:28 pm
by Big Boy
I don't think there is any problem regarding the wearing or not wearing of masks - it should be down to personal choice. The problem comes when the law of the land tries to enforce the wearing. Some people just oppose authority, rightly or wrongly, they do it as a matter of course.
This same defiance of authority is currently killing thousands, who won't have a vaccine because they are being told to. You won't beat stupid.
Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:33 pm
by HHTel
Well said, BB.
Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:27 am
by Big Boy
Life is too short discussion moved here
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=40744
Re: Life is too short
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:38 am
by 2/cb
I intended my comments as light-hearted and in no way critical of other members views. I simply hate face mask wearing and I believe that they are generally useless. Perhaps I’m wrong. My father died of COPD in 2018 and my sympathies go out to those sufferers on this forum. It’s a dreadful illness. If you wish to mask-up be my guest!
Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:34 am
by Lost
How Covid has changed populations.
We have many groups, vocal on social media, still clawing to bring back the oppression of the pre-vaccination 2020. The lockdowns (not joking), the masks, the school closures...
And it's weird. Using Thailand as an example. A country with a first dose vaccination percentage of 81% of the population, a second dose of seventy-five. Civil obedience being the leading factor in doing slightly better than the UK I reckon, even after they were very late to the party.
So why are people still wearing masks? (edit: christ I think you still have school closures there

). Was the whole vaccination thing pointless? A scam? Are the (by choice not enforced) mask wearers the real 'tin-foil hat guys' amongst us?
Makes you think. Well...

Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:14 am
by centermid7
^^ Well . . . then maybe you ought to try to think.
Do you still wear your seat belt? Cook chicken before you eat it? Wash your hands? Brush your teeth? Why??? Good chance because it's a good idea. Continued mask wearing works the same.
Cheers!
Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:32 am
by Lost
centermid7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:14 am
^^ Well . . . then maybe you ought to try to think.
Do you still wear your seat belt? Cook chicken before you eat it? Wash your hands? Brush your teeth? Why??? Good chance because it's a good idea. Continued mask wearing works the same.
Cheers!
A seat belt prevents me from possible death from car crash - no vaccination for that.
Cooked chicken from salmonella - not keen on the vaccination for that. "
However, due to the high incidence of associated adverse systemic and local reactions, they are generally considered to be unsuitable for use as public health vaccine"
Brushing my teeth prevents tooth decay - no commercially viable vaccine for that, though I was interested to find out studies have been ongoing since the 1970s.
I believe what you've done with your post there is called a logical fallacy.

Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:34 am
by buksida
If there are only 2,500 or so Covid cases per day out of a population of nearly 70 million in Thailand, forcing everyone to wear a mask is simply the junta flexing its muscles and reminding the peasants who is in control and not to argue/question them.
Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:35 am
by HHTel
It's strange reading about the pre-vaccination oppression. Here in Thailand, apart from the initial surge which was quickly put under control, most of 2020 saw no cases, hospitalisations or deaths.
When the rest of the world was suffering, the comment in Thailand was "What virus?" It didn't kick off here until 2021,(after the development of vaccines) mainly sparked by migrant workers from Myanmar.
Look at the graphs for Thailand since Feb 2020. For the most of that year, Thailand escaped Covid with daily cases in single figures or zero.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... /thailand/
Public health (test, trace and quarantine) and social measures (face masks, physical distancing, hand hygiene, generalised restriction of travelling) were fully applied in the first wave of COVID-19 with favourable results; there was no local transmission after 25 May 2020 until December 2020.
Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:52 am
by Lost
"...mainly sparked by migrant workers from Myanmar."
"If in doubt, blame them."
~ Thailand

Re: (Don't) Wear a Mask Debate
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:57 am
by StevePIraq
I have always been a staunch supporter of wearing a face mask during these difficult times. However when on my scooter the other day I got stuck behind a truck and after a very short time I had to pull over as the fumes were chocking me. Now if truck diesel fumes get through the mask I really can't see these simple masks preventing Covid getting through the mask. I do however still wear the mask most times.