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migrant wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:21 pm Is that a diesel generator running it?
Going by the colour of the exhaust pipe, yes for sure! Those small "service stations" in the outback are all off grid, so they appear to have a separate generator just for the EV charging station. :cheers:

Some of the "local yokels" are a bit off grid as well! Years ago flying my helicopter across Australia I called into one place for fuel. I needed 100 LL Avgas, but when I told Einstein that I needed Avgas, he says: "sorry mate, we has cooking gas, and we has LPG for cars, but no has Avgas". They had what in Australia are called; 44 gallon drums of Avgas, just had to buy the full drum! :mrgreen:
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Video and photos at link: https://www.nationthailand.com/auto/30372650


It's easy to find an EV charging station in Thailand

....To put their minds at ease, Energy Absolute Public Co Ltd (EA), one of Thailand’s largest EV manufacturers and charging-station operators, has developed the mobile application “EA Anywhere” to conveniently find charging stations nearby.

Available on both App Store and Google Play Store, EA Anywhere features the voice assistants Siri and Google Assistant to enable hands-free use while driving.

Simply open the app or visit https://www.eaanywhere.com to get started. The app will ask for confirmation of your current location from a map, then choose the type of charging you need (normal charge or quick charge).....

.....As an alternative to EA Anywhere, check out https://www.pumpcharge.com, where you can register and locate hundreds of stations in the Bangkok area.

It also has an app called “PumpCharge” that has some nice features like reserving the charging slot in case there’s a queue......
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https://www.bbc.com/sport/motorsport/50644975

Formula E will be given world championship status from next season.

The 14-race all-electric series will be certified for its 2020-21 campaign after a vote by the world governing body for motorsport, the Federation Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA).

Formula 1 is the only other single-seater racing series currently recognised as a world championship.

"Formula E has been a great adventure. It has gone from strength to strength," said FIA president Jean Todt

I'm actually getting into this alternative to F1...some good ideas during the race to ensure track battles. All races shown live on Fox sports.
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My son in Canada has an electric bike. Now it is getting cold he takes the battery into the house at night but has noticed that if it is parked for several hours at sub zero temps while at work the battery life is reduced considerably. I realise that this is not a Thai consideration but wonder is this true of car batteries too?
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oakdale160 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:53 pm My son in Canada has an electric bike. Now it is getting cold he takes the battery into the house at night but has noticed that if it is parked for several hours at sub zero temps while at work the battery life is reduced considerably. I realise that this is not a Thai consideration but wonder is this true of car batteries too?
The largest users of electric cars, per capita, are the Norwegians, they are now buying more of them than conventional vehicles so it's obviously not a huge problem. My colleagues electric Hyundai preheats itself from the mains whilst it's still in the garage.
The way that some parts of the world are dragging their heels about changing away from fossil fuels, extreme low temperatures won't be a problem for much longer!
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oakdale160 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:53 pm My son in Canada has an electric bike. Now it is getting cold he takes the battery into the house at night but has noticed that if it is parked for several hours at sub zero temps while at work the battery life is reduced considerably. I realise that this is not a Thai consideration but wonder is this true of car batteries too?
First you have to define "battery life". Are you referring to range or performance? Also, what type of battery in regard to internal material such as Li-ion, Li-manganese etc. Lead acid is an entirely different subject.

The chemical reaction that produces the electricity in most batteries will slow down as the temperature drops, but there are many factors involved.

As cold is not relevant here, the attached has a lot of info if you are interested.

https://www.wired.com/story/electric-ca ... ther-tips/

https://batteryuniversity.com/index.php ... vehicle_ev
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oakdale160 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:53 pm My son in Canada has an electric bike. Now it is getting cold he takes the battery into the house at night but has noticed that if it is parked for several hours at sub zero temps while at work the battery life is reduced considerably. I realise that this is not a Thai consideration but wonder is this true of car batteries too?
An article I read on the subject https://apnews.com/04029bd1e0a94cd59ff9540a398c12d1

Cold temperatures can sap electric car batteries, temporarily reducing their range by more than 40 percent when interior heaters are used, a new study found.

The study of five electric vehicles by AAA also found that high temperatures can cut into battery range, but not nearly as much as the cold. The range returns to normal in more comfortable temperatures.

Many owners discovered the range limitations last week when much of the country was in the grips of a polar vortex. Owners of vehicles made by manufacturers including Tesla, the top-selling electric vehicle company in the U.S., complained on social media about reduced range and frozen door handles during the cold snap.

As long as drivers understand that there are limitations when operating electric vehicles in more extreme climates, they are less likely to be caught off guard by an unexpected drop in driving range,” Greg Brannon, AAA’s director of automotive engineering, said in a statement.

AAA tested the BMW i3s, Chevrolet Bolt and Nissan Leaf from the 2018 model year, and the 2017 Tesla Model S 75D and Volkswagen e-Golf. All have a range of at least 100 miles per charge. They were tested on a dynamometer, which is like a treadmill, in a climate-controlled cell.

The automobile club tested the cars at 20 degrees and 95 degrees, comparing the range to when they were tested at 75 degrees Fahrenheit, according to a report on the study.

At 20 degrees, the average driving range fell by 12 percent when the car’s cabin heater was not used. When the heater was turned on, the range dropped by 41 percent, AAA said.

At 95 degrees, range dropped 4 percent without use of air conditioning, and fell by 17 percent when the cabin was cooled, the study found.

For example, AAA’s testers determined that the Tesla’s range when fully charged at 75 degrees was 239 miles, but it fell 91 miles, or 38 percent, at 20 degrees.

In a statement, Tesla disputed the AAA results. The company said that based on data collected from its cars on the road, “the average Model S customer doesn’t experience anywhere near that decrease in range.” The company said the range dropped by roughly 1 percent at 95 degrees, but it would not release a percentage for cold weather.

AAA said it followed test procedures drawn up by SAE, an auto engineering trade group.

When the temperature tumbled to 20 degrees last week in Hickory, North Carolina, near Charlotte, Jason Hughes noticed the range fall when he drove his Tesla Model 3 on the commute from home to work.
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Tesla Energy Crisis

Tesla Energy Crisis - Thanksgiving 2019 @ San Luis Obispo, CA Supercharger Station. 15+ Teslas waiting to recharge at 4:45pm Thanksgiving Day..... The previous day, Tesla brought a Megapack that is said to be good for charging ~100 Teslas seen here -

"Tesla supercharging stations charge with up to 150 kW of power distributed between two cars with a maximum of 150 kW per car, depending on version. They take about 20 minutes to charge to 50%, 40 minutes to charge to 80%, and 75 minutes to 100% on the original 85 kWh Model S."

#Tesla #SuperSlowCharger #HurryUpAndWait

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Yep, go electric!. 🤣🤣🤣

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2020, Europe's year of the electric car?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... y-analysts
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I remain deeply skeptical that EVs are the best way forward.

Hydrogen is wonderfully clean, requires far less infrastructure, makes cars far cheaper to manufacture, and they have the same range as petrol driven vehicles.

To power EVs we will need a huge number of new nuclear power stations and massive upgrades to the power distribution network. If those nuclear power stations were dedicated to generating hydrogen from seawater instead it would make far more sense.

EVs are also a bit elitist. The limited battery life and huge cost of replacement would serve to deprive the least well off of personal transport if they become universal - and if you tell poorer people in rural areas to use public transport instead, you'll have the second peasants revolt on your hands..
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What is stopping the development of hydrogen as a source of electrical power? To many vested interests in electric power? Gone to far in one direction to turn another way? ???
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I don't want hydrogen, you'd have to buy it! I want an electric car with solar panels on the carport, what is stopping that?
( The answer is Thailand's tax on imported cars!)
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STEVE G wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:17 am I don't want hydrogen, you'd have to buy it! I want an electric car with solar panels on the carport, what is stopping that?
If you don't need a car to go very far, that might work in the tropics. But I'd look for someone who's actually done that (and isn't a solar panel salesman - or his mate..) - and find out how long it actually takes to charge a car, before shelling out.

The headline numbers quoted for solar panels are always optimums. Clear skies and optimum angle of sun. Unless you have some mechanical wizardry to make your panels track the sun across the sky, you will only get optimal results fleetingly on clear days.
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On the basis that a lot of people change cars every 4-6 years, I think that many of these will be at least one, possibly two cars away from feeling confident that an electric car is for them. There needs to be a step change in both technology and infrastructure to make that happen. There has been quite a lot of development over the past 4-6 years so assuming it will continue to increase incrementally, then it should happen and maybe the planet will be saved!! I’d love to have an affordable electric car that could comfortably get me to Bangkok and back on a single charge without having to worry about whether I’ll make it or not.
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