A bit harsh farang, but I entirely support you on this.
This is really what we all need in Hua Hin.
Not only in HH, but in the whole country!!
What does Hua Hin need?
I will attempt to ignore Pete B's comments for now, while concentrating on the excellent constructive criticism offered by Norseman and Guess. Yes some good tequila, rather than that crap with the Sombrero on top, would be nice. In fact, I'll make sure to bring some back, having just indulged in some Cazadores only moments ago. And Guess, I think you've stumbled onto an excellent marketing idea. There seem to be plenty of Russian ladies in BKK, so why not Mexican babes with tequila strapped to their gunbelts. I'll contact my uncles to arrange all the paperwork. Globalization is not all bad.
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Limey711
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In September 06 we are coming out to live in Hua Hin, I am going to spend a great deal of time, playing golf, fishing, seeing the rest of the country and some ajoining one's and generally we are going to relax, chill and enjoy our new environment.
I truly hope that I don't turn into someone who moans about everything in Hua Hin as it appears half of you guys on here do.
Happy New Year
Limey
I truly hope that I don't turn into someone who moans about everything in Hua Hin as it appears half of you guys on here do.
Happy New Year
Limey
The sweetest girl that I ever kissed was another man's wife.....My Mother
Limey711 wrote:In September 06 we are coming out to live in Hua Hin, I am going to spend a great deal of time, playing golf, fishing, seeing the rest of the country and some ajoining one's and generally we are going to relax, chill and enjoy our new environment.
I truly hope that I don't turn into someone who moans about everything in Hua Hin as it appears half of you guys on here do.
Happy New Year
Limey
A bit unfair Limey. Every time I come on to this forum it just reminds me how much I long to get back to HH
Bowl, don't moan.
I was going to moan about other people moaning about other people moaning, but I wont.Limey711 wrote:In September 06 we are coming out to live in Hua Hin, I am going to spend a great deal of time, playing golf, fishing, seeing the rest of the country and some ajoining one's and generally we are going to relax, chill and enjoy our new environment.
I truly hope that I don't turn into someone who moans about everything in Hua Hin as it appears half of you guys on here do.
Happy New Year
Limey
I see little point in moaning about moaning, so I'll not moan, but just point out this is the second time
you moan about others moaning. You're quite a moaner, aren't you?
The heck with moaning, I'll go down Thip Urai beach to play beach bowling.
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Wanderlust
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Farang,HH needs a serious local rag that would even occasionally publish material that is not just sneaky editorial (text)
advertising in support of the advertisers. Or bullshit stolen from the Net. Or sickly sweet, ultra-positive,
namby-bamby, heart-warming stories of how the deaf-mute quadriplegic orphan regained his hearing
through the operation performed by his seeing-eye dog on a dark and stormy night.
I’d like to see some solid info being squeezed from the City officials. I’d like to know what are the plans
for Hua Hin growth (always assuming there are plans, zoning and such). I also would like to see either
of the rags we now have here to have such a service Phuket Gazette has. Readers send in their questions
and PG finds the answers from the officials concerned. And PG appears not to steer away from controversial
issues, more power to them! They do shoot straight and ask also embarrassing questions.
But this, of course, would require real reporting, dedication and hard w*rk. It also would entail pulling ones
nose out and losing all the brownie points, so I reckon this is ain’t gonna happen right quick.
More’s the pity.
I don't know anything about the Phuket Gazette but I would assume it is a publication that you have to pay for? A free publication is totally reliant on it's advertisers for revenue, so inevitably it has to keep them happy. On the point you make about controversial issues, embarrassing questions, real reporting etc, that is what daily newspapers are for, not once a month publications as we have in Hua Hin. It is entirely possible that an 'issue' could be reported on in the two 'rags' but in between being written and being published it becomes a 'non issue'; equally anything that is hot news on the 1st of the month will hardly be that stimulating a month later when the next issue comes out will it? If Hua Hin Today and the Observer became what you would like they would get closed down pretty sharpish! Even this website has to be careful what it says about Thailand, so I think you are being more than harsh, you are being downright unrealistic!
You are of course right in your consequence analysis Wandelust, but I choose to look at this from another angle.
Most of us read about a Dane who was killled in Cha am a few days ago.
Where did we read about this?
We get knowledge of it because we read about it here, on HHAD, after a tip off by one of our members. (Believe it was caller).
Thai foras kept quiet, maybe in order to protect the tourism?
I also think it would be nice to hear about the development and the future plans for HH. Next week somebody might start digging in your next-door neighbours garden and start building a nuclear powerplant. You're the last to know, because nobody is out there to tell you.
I think we all have many questions to ask, but nobody's in charge to answer them.
I might be wrong, but this is the way I read farangs letter.
Most of us read about a Dane who was killled in Cha am a few days ago.
Where did we read about this?
We get knowledge of it because we read about it here, on HHAD, after a tip off by one of our members. (Believe it was caller).
Thai foras kept quiet, maybe in order to protect the tourism?
I also think it would be nice to hear about the development and the future plans for HH. Next week somebody might start digging in your next-door neighbours garden and start building a nuclear powerplant. You're the last to know, because nobody is out there to tell you.
I think we all have many questions to ask, but nobody's in charge to answer them.
I might be wrong, but this is the way I read farangs letter.
I intend to live forever - so far so good.
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Wanderlust
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Norseman,
I appreciate the desire for this sort of information and I think that is a fair point, but I think Farang was being unnecessarily critical of the two publications that currently exist. I know for a fact that Hua Hin Today has been in hot water before over a story which was too 'near the knuckle', and the Observer has also been verbally slapped for an article. It would have to be a well connected Thai in conjunction with a rich farang prepared to lose money to start a publication which published the sort of information being requested. Although there are now a lot of farangs in HH, I'm not sure there are enough who would pay for a weekly or daily paper offering this, even if they were able to get hold of the stuff to print. I don't even know if there is a Thai publication devoted to the Hua Hin/ Cha Am area - does anyone else know?
I appreciate the desire for this sort of information and I think that is a fair point, but I think Farang was being unnecessarily critical of the two publications that currently exist. I know for a fact that Hua Hin Today has been in hot water before over a story which was too 'near the knuckle', and the Observer has also been verbally slapped for an article. It would have to be a well connected Thai in conjunction with a rich farang prepared to lose money to start a publication which published the sort of information being requested. Although there are now a lot of farangs in HH, I'm not sure there are enough who would pay for a weekly or daily paper offering this, even if they were able to get hold of the stuff to print. I don't even know if there is a Thai publication devoted to the Hua Hin/ Cha Am area - does anyone else know?
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Wanderlust,
I thank you, my Learned Brother, for adopting a civil, cool style and attitude against my raving and ranting.
Much in your accustomed and admired manner. Let me reply to your post point by point.
Phuket Gazette (http://www.phuketgazette.net/) is a once-a-week paper costing 1560 baht / year
delivered to your home. So the subscription price is 30 baht per issue delivered. I do not know the
street price but would gather it is 40 – 50 baht.
If you read, what I was ranting, you’ll notice that I say we lack that kind of a rag here. I do not say
Observer or Today should be like one. I am saying we lack one.
And I do understand about the finances of once-a-month-paper as opposed to once-a-week rag,
that is being sold over the counter. (Well, Hua Hin Today costs 20 b)
I agree a monthly paper is geared to keep the advertiser happy, whereas a weekly rag is geared
to have a large reading audience, that supposedly keeps the advertisers happy.
As I do not pay the piper, nor should I call the tune. I also do understand the frame-work of running
a paper in an Asian country, the need of being discreet. I am not saying HHC-AO or HHTD should become
what I like. I am saying Hua Hin lacks a rag like I like. The one that would not go over the board
with issues but that would al least have the guts to politely ask of the Chief of the Police:
“Sir, opposite the police station there has been a traffic bottle-neck due to double-parked cars.
What are your plans to eradicate this obstacle and when shall the plans be put in action?â€
Wanderlust,
I thank you, my Learned Brother, for adopting a civil, cool style and attitude against my raving and ranting.
Much in your accustomed and admired manner. Let me reply to your post point by point.
Phuket Gazette (http://www.phuketgazette.net/) is a once-a-week paper costing 1560 baht / year
delivered to your home. So the subscription price is 30 baht per issue delivered. I do not know the
street price but would gather it is 40 – 50 baht.
If you read, what I was ranting, you’ll notice that I say we lack that kind of a rag here. I do not say
Observer or Today should be like one. I am saying we lack one.
And I do understand about the finances of once-a-month-paper as opposed to once-a-week rag,
that is being sold over the counter. (Well, Hua Hin Today costs 20 b)
I agree a monthly paper is geared to keep the advertiser happy, whereas a weekly rag is geared
to have a large reading audience, that supposedly keeps the advertisers happy.
As I do not pay the piper, nor should I call the tune. I also do understand the frame-work of running
a paper in an Asian country, the need of being discreet. I am not saying HHC-AO or HHTD should become
what I like. I am saying Hua Hin lacks a rag like I like. The one that would not go over the board
with issues but that would al least have the guts to politely ask of the Chief of the Police:
“Sir, opposite the police station there has been a traffic bottle-neck due to double-parked cars.
What are your plans to eradicate this obstacle and when shall the plans be put in action?â€
Interesting comments on publications and what they can or can't print.
On a larger scale I have experience with a global publication, even they have to be careful what they run since they're based in Thailand, and we know how much the PM loves the press.
On a smaller scale it would be similar, anything detrimental to the growth of the town or the livelihoods of local (Thai) business people and officials would come under a great deal of criticism.
I'm not saying that HH doesnt need something like this, just that it would be an extremely difficult job for a foreigner to succeed in and a Thai run publication just wouldnt produce the results that we need.
On a larger scale I have experience with a global publication, even they have to be careful what they run since they're based in Thailand, and we know how much the PM loves the press.
On a smaller scale it would be similar, anything detrimental to the growth of the town or the livelihoods of local (Thai) business people and officials would come under a great deal of criticism.
I'm not saying that HH doesnt need something like this, just that it would be an extremely difficult job for a foreigner to succeed in and a Thai run publication just wouldnt produce the results that we need.
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
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Valid reasons why we lack the rag in Hua Hin: troubles - no money.
Valid reasons why we lack the rag in Hua Hin: troubles - no money.
"There's no plausible or convincing reason, certainly no evidential one, to believe that there is such an entity (= deity) and that all observable phenomena, including the cosmological ones... are explicable without the hypothesis; you don't need the assumption."
farang
i agree the phuket gazette is a very good paper and website
i think very proffesionaly run
but the amount of expats in patong outnumber those in hh let alone the whole of phuket
i have even hered of people in the uk ordering this paper
hh in the future may have a greater need for a local rag but think its more to do with proffesionalisum rather than a cash injection to get somthing running
this is by no means dissing any present rag just my opinion
chok dee
jambo
i agree the phuket gazette is a very good paper and website
i think very proffesionaly run
but the amount of expats in patong outnumber those in hh let alone the whole of phuket
i have even hered of people in the uk ordering this paper
hh in the future may have a greater need for a local rag but think its more to do with proffesionalisum rather than a cash injection to get somthing running
this is by no means dissing any present rag just my opinion
chok dee
jambo
Please accept this as a tourist with the best of intentions - but if it did have those things, wouldn't what keeps you there go?jambo wrote:going back to the origanal theme
all thats needed in the wonderfull town is/was planning
I have been lucky enough to visit some wonderful places, but it was the stability, smugness, and neatness of them all, that ultimately, put me off.
But In approx. 18 months (6 mths after I want to move)I will be in a position to answer that myself!
And who would the planning benefit?
But if you said, no more developments, well.... But that won't happen?
Talk is cheap