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For reference, the below is a special micro site the Bangkok Post as set up that has all details from the start to present. Pete :cheers:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/thaksin-judgement-day/
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We're not moving!
GOVERNMENT THREATENS TO FINE AND JAIL PROTESTERS WHO STAY

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* Published: 4/04/2010 at 12:00 AM
* Newspaper section: News Bangkok Post

The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) Saturday night defied the government's order to vacate the Ratchaprasong intersection at 9pm, raising the prospect of mass arrests under a tough security law.

SEA OF RED: Red shirt supporters of ousted prIme minister Thaksin Shinawatra gather during an anti-government protest in the centre of Bangkok Saturday.

The Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) last night announced that red shirt demonstrators at the Ratchaprasong intersection had violated the Internal Security Act (ISA).

The announcement was to pave the way for authorities to handle the UDD rally legally.

CAPO announced that the Ratchaprasong intersection and adjacent areas had been declared controlled areas under the ISA and the UDD supporters who have occupied the areas were required to move out immediately. If not, they will face a one-year jail term and/or a 20,000 baht fine each, said CAPO spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnerd, who read the announcement on the army-owned Channel 5.

Demonstrators who leave the areas will not be punished. CAPO will today make the red shirts aware of the order and if they do not move, further steps would be taken.

Thousands of red shirts took over the intersection shortly before midday, blocking traffic and threatening to choke the city's main shopping district, as they upped pressure on the government to dissolve the Lower House.

Their refusal to leave raised speculation that the government might enforce the ISA to crack down on the demonstrators.

CAPO earlier had set a 9pm deadline for red shirt demonstrators to leave.

The UDD marched from their base at the Phan Fa Bridge to the intersection about 11.20am, and refused to budge until the government agreed to step down.

The government sent in negotiators to ask the UDD to leave the area. CAPO said if the talks failed and the crowd still refused to budge by the deadline, police would start making arrests under the act.

Adviser to the Royal Thai Police Pol Gen Phanupong Singhara na Ayutthaya talked to the red shirts for 10 minutes, but said he could not persuade the demonstrators to clear the intersection.

The government first ordered them out before 9pm, but as the deadline passed it said negotiations would continue today.

Following the announcement, red shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan said the demonstrators would not back down.

He urged red shirts in the provinces to surround provincial halls if the government attempted to disperse their peers at the intersection.

"The decision is yours. When [our] People Channel television station goes blank, that means troops have begun a crackdown.

"The red shirts in the provinces are urged to exercise their judgement and take action," he told the crowd.

Tens of thousands of red shirts started camping out at Ratchaprasong intersection about noon. CAPO estimated that the crowd rose to 54,000 people at its peak. The blockade forced shopping centres in the area to close early and paralysed traffic, with several public buses which pass Ratchaprasong intersection cancelling services.

Pornsil Patchrintanakul, the deputy secretary-general of the Thai Chamber of Commerce, said economic losses from the intersection takeover could reach 500 million baht a day.

The red shirt leaders vowed to remain at the intersection until the government accepted their demand to dissolve parliament in 15 days.

They extended an apology to those affected by the intersection blockade and urged sympathy for their plight.

They were also seen paying respect to the Erawan shrine, one of the city's top tourist spots at the intersection.

Earlier, a teenager drove his Porsche into a motorcycle owned by a red shirt supporter near the InterContinental Hotel, provoking crowd anger and forcing police to whisk the teenager away.

He was identified as Thanit Thanakit-amnuay, grandson of prominent businessman and former deputy prime minister Amnuay Viravan.

Meanwhile, Mr Abhisit said the government would send high-level officials, not politicians, to negotiate with the red shirt leaders. He said the government would not use force to disperse the demonstrators and called on members of the public to exercise restraint.

"I am aware that large numbers of people are being affected. The government is not taking their inconvenience or the situation for granted."

Mr Abhisit criticised the red shirts' decision to move to the tourism district, saying it went beyond a reasonable exercise of constitutional rights.

He said the mastermind of the rally hoped to manipulate city people to pressure the government and possibly provoke a crackdown. "Please do not do anything that would incite violence."

He said the people who orchestrated the rally had nothing to lose and did not care if the situation spun out of control.

Some demonstrators also rallied outside state-run NBT television station.
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It's been reported that the Red Shirts will not be dispersing and going home for Songkran. They'll stay in Bangkok until at least April 20 to hear the ruling by the election commission whether or not to ban the Democratic Party for contribution violations. :( Pete :cheers:
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It seems that the Red shirts are rotating people from the provinces through Bangkok to maintain a presence there for a long haul.
I'm in a staunch Red shirt area of Issan at the moment and no one from here has been down there yet.
Incidentally, from what people are saying here, some of the rumours of large sums of money being on offer to demonstrators are exagerated. I did wander about that as I've seen guys around here who even went to the PAD airport protest as paid protesters, who I expected to be in Bangkok at the moment.
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One thing has me scratching my head:

when faced with the igorant parroting demands for house dissolution, or charter re-writing, depending on which particular flip flop the Reds choose to wear at any one time, why dont the government reply as follows:

"How many times in the past has the house been dissolved? 30? 40?
How many times has the charter been re-written? 17? 18?

Did dissolution or rewriting ever work? NO!

So the answer to your stupid demands is NO. Now you three have had a nice time lashing it up in those 5 star hotels whilst the proles sweat in the nightime heat, your 15 shabby minutes of fame on TV, and Dr Weng here has turned himself into a slang term for bullshit. I suggest you and your scruffy sweaty HIV and Hepatitus infected mates sod off home before we field test the spanking new shipments of rubber bullets and CS gas that nice Prime Minister Brown sent us at Christmas.

and that is a quote Im happy for you to play."

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Thailand's Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has declared a state of emergency in Bangkok amid escalating anti-government protests.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-p ... 607267.stm

How serious is this really? Timing is perfect as I'm on a flight from Kunming this afternoon!

Won't be heading into Bangkok, but straight down to HH - there was talk however of protesters heading to the airport??? :tsk:
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I don't think you'll have a problem unless they move to the airport, and the Red shirts have always promised not to do this.
Apart from that you can get down to HH without going anywhere near central Bangkok, so I don't see any problems and I'm going to be passing by myself today.
What will be interesting is if they try to put down the protest purely so that the security forces can go on holiday at the weekend!
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Now we have a division at the top of Army Command. :roll: Pete :cheers:

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Prayuth tipped to disperse red shirts

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/3 ... red-shirts

* Published: 9/04/2010 at 12:00 AM
* Newspaper section: News Bangkok Post

Speculation is growing that deputy army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha could be asked to head the operation to disperse the red shirt demonstrators, a source says.

Army commander Anupong Paojinda is reportedly uncomfortable with a plan to break up the protests.

"If he refuses to act, it is likely the government will hand the job to Gen Prayuth," the source said yesterday.

Gen Prayuth is believed to be willing to act even it means jeopardising his chance of succeeding Gen Anupong as army commander when he retires at the end of September.

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban are reported to have locked horns with Gen Anupong on Tuesday over a plan to disperse the red shirts.

The army chief was quoted as saying the security authorities had no authority to move in and break up the rally at Ratchaprasong intersection.

Gen Prayuth flew over the rally site in a helicopter on Wednesday.

The source said the deputy army chief had mobilised 50 companies of troops from the 2nd and 3rd Army Regions and from the Lop Buri-based Special Operations Command to help beef up security in Bangkok.

The capital and its neighbouring provinces have been placed under a state of emergency as the red shirts gear up for a bigger rally today.

Gen Anupong has asked suppliers of tear gas and rubber bullets to speed up deliveries, the source said.

The army has ordered 39,000 rubber bullets from a local supplier and is pushing for their delivery this week.

It has also asked an Indonesian firm contracted to supply tear gas to speed up delivery. Some 800 canisters have already been distributed.

The source said Gen Anupong had given clear instructions to troops not to use firearms if they embark on an operation to disperse the demonstrators.

Soldiers have been told to use only crowd control equipment - mainly water cannons, batons, shields, tear gas and rubber bullets.

Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwon yesterday said the announcement of the state of emergency was to tackle the emergency situation and prevent it from escalating.

He said emergency rule was not intended to launch a crackdown on the red shirts.

He also played down the latest grenade attack on Gen Anupong's office at army headquarters. He said the attack early Wednesday had done little damage. Gen Anupong's office also came under grenade attack on Jan 14.
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This one is happening as we speak. Stay tuned as this could be the event that pushes things over the cliff. :( Pete :cheers:

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Red-shirts determined to wrest back control of PTV

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/1 ... t-ptv-back (PHOTOS)

* Published: 9/04/2010 at 12:28 PM
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Red-shirts from both the Phan Fa Bridge and Ratchaprasong intersection rally sites converged on the Thaicom satellite station in Pathum Thani’s Lat Lum Kaeo district on Friday, determined to get their satellite-based television station, the People Channel, back on air.

Natthawut Saikua, a core leader of the United front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), announced at the Ratchaprasong rally stage earlier that the red-shirts would go to the Thaicom station to take it back from the soldiers and then reopen the satellite-based PTV.

"We are marching now to ask them why they closed down People Channel and what rights they have to shut out our eyes and ears," Mr Natthawut announced on stage.

He said the red-shirts would not return to their main rally sites until they succeeded in their aim.

The red-shirts TV station was shut down soon after the government declared a state of emergency on Wednesday evening. Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva defended the shutdown of the station that it came after the channel aired distorted information and affected national security.

About 6,000 soldiers were reported to be deployed inside and around the Thaicom station to prevent the red-shirts from entering the ground. Another 600 police were deployed out front to confront the protesters.

About 700 red-shirts on Thursday tried to enter the Thaicom station but were blocked by more than 1,000 soldiers.

Within half an hour of Mr Natthawut's announcement, the Centre for Public Administration in Emergency Situations (CPAES) issued an announcement warning outsiders against trespassing on the Thaicom facility at Lat Lum Kaeo.

Around noon, CPAES spokesman Col Sansern Kaewkamnerd announced that about 3,000 red-shirts were heading for Thaicom station.

Col Sansern said the head of the convoy of vehicles of the red-shirts was shortly after noon reported to be at the five-way Lat Phrao junction, heading for Lat Lum Kaew along Vibhavadi-Rangsit highway.

He said under the emergency law, police and soldiers would take steps to protect the station.

The protesters would first be told that they were breaking the law. If this failed to stop them, law-enforcing authorities at the station would push them back using shields, water cannons, sound pulse generators, tear gas, batons, and rubber bullets, Col Sansern said.

The government forces would keep the protesters informed of every action to be taken.

The CPAES spokesman asked the people who were not involved to stay away from the area to allow police and soldiers to perform their duty.

According to TV reports, a number of red-shirts had arrived at the Thaicom station in Lat Lum Kaeo as of noon.

In the morning, Col Sansern said that 30,000 more police and soldiers have been mobilised to beef up security in and around Bangkok.

"We are confident that our operation will be more effective after the reinforcement," he said.

The reinforcement at checkpoints is aimed at obstructing motorcycles and vehicles that might be intent of causing chaos, he said.

CPAES estimated the number of red-shirt protesters at 15,000 -- about 9,000 at Ratchaprasong intersection and 5,000 to 6,000 at Phan Fa Bridge -- at 8am on Friday, he said.
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Latest report from Reuters : Thai Military are using tear gas and water cannons to disperse protesters in Bangkok.
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Further to above the Baht is approaching a 22month high.......... :?

although over 40 countries have travel warnings in place ................
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My wife is currently on the road driving from Nangrong to HH and she said that the army are stopping alot of vehicles entering Bangkok carrying Red shirt protesters, so their still gathering.
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Probably gathering for the final party.

Abhisit has nothing left. He can only resign as far as I can see.

At 2.30 pm, VPM Suthep announces that 7,000 riot personnel will use force to stop the reds from entering the ThaiCom compound.

At 2.40 pm the reds had control of the compound, the police and army had mostly fled the scene to a field nearby.

At 3.40 pm some of the riot forces were back in the compound with the reds, dancing and singing along, sharing water, coffee and food.

Abhisit has no power, the police and army are not willing to do as he orders. This is much the same situation as when the yellows protested just over a year ago.

I just hope the yellows do not turn up to do what Abhisit can't.

Abhisit has to start kicking some arses and show some strength of office. If he can't get the army or police to do their jobs, he will be out of a job soon.
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CPAES estimated the number of red-shirt protesters at 15,000 -- about 9,000 at Ratchaprasong intersection and 5,000 to 6,000 at Phan Fa Bridge -- at 8am on Friday, he said.
At 2.30 pm, VPM Suthep announces that 7,000 riot personnel will use force to stop the reds from entering the ThaiCom compound.
At 2.40 pm the reds had control of the compound, the police and army had mostly fled the scene to a field nearby.
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Further to above the Baht is approaching a 22month high..........
seems to me the same mathematician worked all that out seeing as the baht is at 49 plus the highest for my last 3 withdrawals :roll: :mrgreen: :wink: :wink: :thumb:
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I think taking the Reds TV channel off air was a bad move as many people were staying up-country watching events on newly installed satellite TV.
Many of them are now heading for Bangkok as they don't trust the normal news and they want to know what is happening.
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