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BaaBaa. wrote:Yes, two year old links won't change that.
here's a newer one :D
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... ealed.html

now take into account that one of our top earners is gone (gallas 100k) & you got cole in on 90k . . . . . . :idea: :D maybe a change in the average? or am i grasping at straws :laugh:
Did do, I was correct, also went to more cup finals.
benitez joined in 2004?
2004-5 you 5th us 4th
2005-6 you 3rd us 4th
2006-7 you 3rd us 4th
2007-8 you 4th us 3rd
2008-9 you 2nd us 4th
2009-10 you 7th( :shock: ) us 3rd

i think that would make it 3-3 :|

previous to benitez arriving, . . . . . a couple of fa cups & 2 barney rubbles & lest we forget the 'invincibles' season :cheers: never been achieved before & probably never will again :| , all on a pretty small budget in comparison :thumb:
all clubs have a transitory period, we will be coming out of ours shortly, of that i have no doubt!!!! :cheers:
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Yawn!

Meanwhile, Chelsea win.

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redzonerocker wrote: all clubs have a transitory period:
A 6 year one??? :shock:
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caller wrote:Yawn!

Meanwhile, Chelsea win.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
yawn! yep, on the back of roman's £700 million investment, no other reason :roll:



baabaa wrote:A 6 year one??? :shock:
true but with the new ground etc it was gonna be tough going, maybe a bit longer than expected :( .
but, football is about winning titles, cups are a bonus
winning the league has to be the ultimate achievement for any club & the priority at the beginning of the season :|

remind me again, when was the last time liverpool won the league? :wink: :D
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redzonerocker wrote:remind me again, when was the last time liverpool won the league? :wink: :D
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redzonerocker wrote:
caller wrote:Yawn!

Meanwhile, Chelsea win.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
yawn! yep, on the back of roman's £700 million investment, no other reason :roll:
If it hadn't been Roman (and it nearly wasn't), it would have been someone else. Yes, there were debts, but the ground was finished, the hotels were operating, the club was in an upward trajectory and already getting trophies and its the nearest ground to the centre of London (a few hundred yards to the borders of the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea), so it was/is an overall attractive business proposition/rich mans plaything. Romans money enabled us to rise up a notch to the level previously occupied by Manure, the poo and the Arse! :D

And lets not get to smug about Arsenals situation (although in many respects it would have been better for Chelsea to have done the same old/new ground thing), you also have some mercenaries from the US and Russia snapping up your shares and just waiting in the wings for the old guard to move on.
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But Caller, until that happens, I would suggest that all non-Chelsea fans are not really impressed with Chelsea`s trophies, just as they won`t be if Man C win anything. All done with quick fix money.
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So poor old Liverpool are going the LU route

Football is now a farce. All dependent on a fat chequebook and the loyal fans suffer

Maybe the government should nationalise them :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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Arcadian wrote:But Caller, until that happens, I would suggest that all non-Chelsea fans are not really impressed with Chelsea`s trophies, just as they won`t be if Man C win anything. All done with quick fix money.
Uh okay, so it was okay for the established money clubs to buy the best to be the best, but not the newbies?

On behalf of all Cheslea fans I apologise to all the fans of Manure, the Poo and the Arse for infringing on their little cartel! :thumb:
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caller wrote:On behalf of all Cheslea fans I apologise to all the fans of Manure, the Poo and the Arse for infringing on their little cartel! :thumb:
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BaaBaa. wrote:
Apology not accepted!
nor here :tsk:
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Liverpool to receive new bid from Singapore billionaire

The bidding contest for Liverpool FC may not be over, the BBC can reveal.

The runner-up in the contest, Peter Lim, a Singapore billionaire, is to approach Liverpool's board with a view to making a higher offer for the club.

According to sources close to Mr Lim, he was the club's preferred bidder in the closing stages of the auction.

He had talks with Liverpool's chairman about how to announce his takeover, such was the apparent confidence that he would win the contest.
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Mr Lim learned he was not the victor only a few hours before the club's chairman, Martin Broughton, announced on 6 October that Liverpool would be sold to John Henry's New England Sport Ventures for £300

Mr Lim, who is being advised by the British firm of lawyers Macfarlanes and by the Wong Partnership of Singapore, still does not know why Mr Broughton went with New England Sports Ventures, owners of the Boston Red Sox.

He believes that in purely monetary terms, his offer was at least as attractive as Mr Henry's.

Mr Lim, too, was offering to repay all of Royal Bank of Scotland's and Wachovia's £200m of long-term debt, to take on £60m of other debt and to inject £40m of working capital.

What's more - and Mr Lim regards this as crucial - all the money being provided by him would come from his own cash resources. He is not planning to borrow any of it.

I understand he is also offering to provide tens of millions of pounds to Liverpool's manager, Roy Hodgson, to allow him to buy players when the transfer window opens in January.

According to executives close to Mr Lim, he was told by Mr Broughton that his ability to fund the takeover for cash, and the size of his cash resources, meant he was a more attractive owner than New England Sports Ventures.

Mr Lim was told that Liverpool's board was concerned that New England Sports Ventures would have to borrow to finance the takeover - raising questions about whether Liverpool really would break free from the financial shackles perceived to have been imposed by the current owners, George Gillett and Tom Hicks.

In the event, New England Sports Ventures have insisted it will not load up Liverpool FC with debt.

But there are no guarantees that there will not be significant debt further up the corporate ownership structure of New England Sports Ventures - which could limit how much money Mr Henry and his colleagues can inject into Liverpool in the future.

Mr Lim is keeping a close eye on the court case, which starts on Tuesday.

The case is supposed to rule on whether Mr Broughton can sell Liverpool to New England Sports Ventures against the wishes of Mr Hicks and Mr Gillett.

The Singapore billionaire believes the judgement in that case may give him an opportunity to bid again, whatever Mr Broughton may wish.
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Mr Lim is also prepared to buy Liverpool, should it ultimately collapse into administration under UK insolvency procedures.

According to sources close to him, he feels that he may have been shut out because New England made an offer to Royal Bank of Scotland to pay some of the £40m penalty fees the banks have demanded.

If that is the case, he believes Royal Bank may have done a poor deal, because he would be prepared to pay RBS and Wachovia more than the £10m or so which New England Sports Ventures is said to have put on the table.

"He never had a chance to negotiate directly with Royal Bank [of Scotland]," said a source. "He was expecting to do so, after agreeing the takeover with the board."

Mr Lim has an estimated net worth of $1.6bn (£1bn), according to Forbes Magazine.

He made his fortune in fashion, logistics and agri-business.

His interest in English football stems from his ownership of several Manchester United themed bars in Asia - which have persuaded him that there is huge global potential for making money from top-flight English football.

Meanwhile, Royal Bank of Scotland announced on Monday afternoon that it had obtained an injuction to prevent Liverpool owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett from sacking Martin Broughton or any other of the club's board members ahead of Tuesday's court case.

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I`m sure there are good reasons, but why should we care about the plight of Liverpool, to use one of Baa Baa`s favourite replies "snigger"
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Arcadian wrote:I`m sure there are good reasons, but why should we care about the plight of Liverpool, to use one of Baa Baa`s favourite replies "snigger"
Who said you should care?

It's in the sports section, is probably the biggest sports news story of the moment, is headline news everywhere, Caller made a topic on the subject and it's lastest 7 pages.

The simple solution if you're not interested is don't F'in read it.
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