richard,
From my perspective it isn't irritation that I can't get a drink (although it would be nice if the law was applied with more logic and consistency everywhere), but that Thailand and its people will suffer from the loss of earnings from those bans directly, and indirectly from tourists potentially choosing other destinations in the future - in an already poor high season (by all accounts) it will be the straw that breaks the camels back for some. The other side of the coin is how effective is it in achieving the stated goals of a sober electorate and preventing parties aimed at bribing voters? I would suggest it is about as effective as the attempt to conserve fuel by closing the petrol stations at 10 pm (which was sensibly thrown out eventually). Although I have no stake in this country in terms of voting rights or status, that doesn't stop me caring about the country and its people, as I would like them to have better lives, but this is not helped by stupid and ill thought out laws such as this one.
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I agree with you wholeheartedly
BUT we are powerless to change it. We have an option-- Take it or leave it. They have no option but to accept it or suffer the consequences
My rant is about 'know it all farangs' who think they can change things and winge about everything
I was taught many moons ago when I first came here to live that for every Thai problem there are numerous solutions.
I think I now know a little about Thai logic and have come to accept it after all TIT
I agree with you wholeheartedly
BUT we are powerless to change it. We have an option-- Take it or leave it. They have no option but to accept it or suffer the consequences
My rant is about 'know it all farangs' who think they can change things and winge about everything
I was taught many moons ago when I first came here to live that for every Thai problem there are numerous solutions.
I think I now know a little about Thai logic and have come to accept it after all TIT
RICHARD OF LOXLEY
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
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i agree with you in your way of thinking & with you 100%.Wanderlust wrote: Although I have no stake in this country in terms of voting rights or status, that doesn't stop me caring about the country and its people, as I would like them to have better lives, but this is not helped by stupid and ill thought out laws such as this one.
i do though agree with richard & i think his point is directed at those that seem to have the farang persecution complex.
it was bad planning & ill timed, but thats the way it is. its over now & life goes on regardless.
before anyone labels me with the "if you don't like it brigade...", i'm not one of those.as i've said before, having lived in several different countries, you sometimes have to accept things however odd,daft or unreasonable they seem.
Remember, no one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
richard, don't take this the wrong way but there is a slight difference between the following two scenarios:
1) being retired, having a steady and stable income from your home country and very little to concern yourself with should things go awry here or being a part time visitor with a base and income elsewhere.
and
2) living permanently for many years, working or trying to run a business, paying taxes, and raising a family in Thailand that is dependent on you being able to stay here.
Hence some farangs will probably rant a bit more than others regardless of their "knowledge" and no ... going "home" often isnt an option for many.
1) being retired, having a steady and stable income from your home country and very little to concern yourself with should things go awry here or being a part time visitor with a base and income elsewhere.
and
2) living permanently for many years, working or trying to run a business, paying taxes, and raising a family in Thailand that is dependent on you being able to stay here.
Hence some farangs will probably rant a bit more than others regardless of their "knowledge" and no ... going "home" often isnt an option for many.
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Buksi
I understand your comments
I have many friends here that have responsibilities to their businesses, family and have lived here many years
On the retirement front it also has a variety of scenarios
Some retirees have sold up and a return home would mean a downturn in living standards, additional expenses, lousy weather and a hostile populace. This is especially true of those that have been here 5 years or more.
Some who have not been here long, are young and fit enough to get a job at home or have property at home are in a position to pack up and leave
Personally I committed to selling up, investing in properties for my daughters and committed myself to spending the rest of my days in this idyllic kingdom . My exodus would mean what I said in paragraph 4. Besides I don't have a Polish passport!!!!
I guess it's really a question of where each and everyone of us is coming from and our individual circumstances
Having lived in Zimbabwe for many years, I have seen many casualties and hopefully our postings will give potential residents a clear idea of the pitfalls
Cheers and let's hope 2008 is not all doom and gloom. By nature I'm an optimist BUT in my ripe old age, a realist too now!!
HAPPY New Year to you. family and friends
I understand your comments
I have many friends here that have responsibilities to their businesses, family and have lived here many years
On the retirement front it also has a variety of scenarios
Some retirees have sold up and a return home would mean a downturn in living standards, additional expenses, lousy weather and a hostile populace. This is especially true of those that have been here 5 years or more.
Some who have not been here long, are young and fit enough to get a job at home or have property at home are in a position to pack up and leave
Personally I committed to selling up, investing in properties for my daughters and committed myself to spending the rest of my days in this idyllic kingdom . My exodus would mean what I said in paragraph 4. Besides I don't have a Polish passport!!!!
I guess it's really a question of where each and everyone of us is coming from and our individual circumstances
Having lived in Zimbabwe for many years, I have seen many casualties and hopefully our postings will give potential residents a clear idea of the pitfalls
Cheers and let's hope 2008 is not all doom and gloom. By nature I'm an optimist BUT in my ripe old age, a realist too now!!
HAPPY New Year to you. family and friends
RICHARD OF LOXLEY
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
Following on from my last posting on this thread, something I wish to share with all and sundry about my optimistic nature
When I'm feeling down I read the following:
IF YOU THINK YOUR BEATEN, YOU ARE
IF YOU THINK YOU DARE NOT, YOU DON’T
IF YOU LIKE TO WIN, BUT THINK YOU CAN’T
IT’S ALMOST A CINCH YOU WON’T
IF YOU THINK YOU’LL LOSE, YOU’RE LOST
FOR OUT OF THIS WORLD WE FIND
SUCCESS BEGINS WITH A FELLOWS WILL
IT’S ALL IN THE STATE OF MIND
IF YOU THINK YOU’RE OUTCLASSED, YOU ARE
YOU’VE GOT TO THINK HIGH TO RISE
YOU’VE GOT TO BE SURE OF YOURSELF
BEFORE YOU CAN WIN THE PRIZE
LIFE’S BATTLES DON’T ALWAYS GO
TO THE STRONGER OR FASTER MAN
BUT SOONER OR LATER THE MAN WHO WINS
IS THE MAN WHO THINKS HE CAN
Hope somebody reaps some benefit from my message
Cheers
When I'm feeling down I read the following:
IF YOU THINK YOUR BEATEN, YOU ARE
IF YOU THINK YOU DARE NOT, YOU DON’T
IF YOU LIKE TO WIN, BUT THINK YOU CAN’T
IT’S ALMOST A CINCH YOU WON’T
IF YOU THINK YOU’LL LOSE, YOU’RE LOST
FOR OUT OF THIS WORLD WE FIND
SUCCESS BEGINS WITH A FELLOWS WILL
IT’S ALL IN THE STATE OF MIND
IF YOU THINK YOU’RE OUTCLASSED, YOU ARE
YOU’VE GOT TO THINK HIGH TO RISE
YOU’VE GOT TO BE SURE OF YOURSELF
BEFORE YOU CAN WIN THE PRIZE
LIFE’S BATTLES DON’T ALWAYS GO
TO THE STRONGER OR FASTER MAN
BUT SOONER OR LATER THE MAN WHO WINS
IS THE MAN WHO THINKS HE CAN
Hope somebody reaps some benefit from my message
Cheers
RICHARD OF LOXLEY
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
A couple of days ago there was mention of a 15 day closure of places of entertainment such as bars out of respect for the passing HRH's sister. Did it actually happen?
If it did, what is the effect on the affected establishments if any?
If it did, what is the effect on the affected establishments if any?
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Big Boy: Haven't heard anything about closure or bars etc. for the departed Princess.
We did, however, bump into a collegue at the government run university where we work today and she said that there would be no parties, or suchlike for civil servants for the 15 day period - they should be sombre.
The fact that most of them don't drink, or 'party' won't really affect them at all. They've just got to drag out all the black clothing from their wardrobes and do the respect thing.
I don't think that this will affect any of the bars/restaurants - they've been crucified enough from the election fiasco.
VS
We did, however, bump into a collegue at the government run university where we work today and she said that there would be no parties, or suchlike for civil servants for the 15 day period - they should be sombre.
The fact that most of them don't drink, or 'party' won't really affect them at all. They've just got to drag out all the black clothing from their wardrobes and do the respect thing.
I don't think that this will affect any of the bars/restaurants - they've been crucified enough from the election fiasco.
VS
"Properly trained, man can be a dog's best friend"
I have heard the same as you BB!
It was the proposal from some over-zealously future PPP-MP.
Their idea was to close down all bars, pubs and other entertainment businesses for a period of 15 days, to oblige everybody all over the country to wear unobtrusive clothes for 100 days, and that officers should have to wear a mourning-crape additional for the same period of time to show respect for the passing of HRH's sister.
I think we all are able to imagine what will be happening, if these people are coming into power officially soon!
It was the proposal from some over-zealously future PPP-MP.
Their idea was to close down all bars, pubs and other entertainment businesses for a period of 15 days, to oblige everybody all over the country to wear unobtrusive clothes for 100 days, and that officers should have to wear a mourning-crape additional for the same period of time to show respect for the passing of HRH's sister.
I think we all are able to imagine what will be happening, if these people are coming into power officially soon!