Dogs in Hua Hin

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HI ;

in huahin i saw lot of dog in street .. that MR JEERA do same thing about this problem or not .. i just request from mrjeera to help tourist & peaple of huahin .. and roundup all sick dog from street of huahin & send them to animal hospital .. there,s lot of problem for motorist also from the dog ..TKS :roll:
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take a look at

www.dogrescuecenter.com

a hua hin based site thats helping to combat this problem
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HI PEAPLE !

thank,s this is realy a very big help .. for tourist and for this poor anamel also .. you do a realy great job .. my motor cycle crash with dog once in soi OPP TAN SAMAI at night 1 am ..that cast lot of damege for me .. just dag jump front of my motor sycle in destance of les then 1 meter .. i lostr cotrol .. and also lot of sick dog walk all around food market and ather publick place that not realy good ..& clean ,, any way .. i sa thak,s once more & good luck for you guys .. :D
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Total agreement with you, the dogs really need to be either taken into the pound or re-housed (preferably out of town)
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Not a case of dealing with the dogs . . .

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More a case of dealing with the former owners!
Those poor dogs didn't come to HH on their own. Usually, someone helped them end up in that horrid condition. Now we all know that Asians are not as 'sentimental' about animals as Westerners (I lived in Taiwan (where dogs are a menu item) for 6 years & Japan (where dogs have their voice box removed or altered to make them more 'user friendly'), so I know you can't expect attitudes towards dogs to change overnight. However, if they ever get round to using that embedded microchip ID technology here, they could trace the owners of those abandoned animals & hit thgem where it hurts -- in the pocket!
Alternatively, they could put the owners on the street & feed them garbage, & see how they like it!
Excuse the rant :cuss: but if dogs are man's best friend, we should return the compliment!
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I'm with you one that one Troopie....well said. :wink:
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I do a lot of cycling in and around Hua Hin and every now and again one will tear after me like a missile all wild of hair and eye.
All dogs should be chipped and the owners of escaped dogs should have the bejesus scared out of them just like me :shock:
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Post by VincentD »

Unfortunately there are a lot of strays and nothing is really done to neuter them, so they just keep breeding. The Thai attitude is, that's their karma, leave them be. They won't interfere unless the dogs interfere.

Like the way they try to avoid a snake crossing the road (sometimes causing damage to other road users in the process), but would not hesitate to clobber the thing if they found it in their house. A cobra is also considered a prized meal.

If the locals do abandon animals, they usually do it at the local temple, not in the center of town.
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Hey when i went to Krabi to wat whatever i remember seeing the poor chaps beeing tied to a tree in the WAT and having the jayes fluid and a razor blade stuff done .............. owwwwww makes me cringe now. So maybe the K9 flee ridden waste of space yapping mongrels are lucky in HH
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There are so many abandon dogs in Thailand, not only in Hua Hin but all over the places. We did a trip from BKK to Chiang Mai - Chiang Rai - Nong Khai - Vientian for once and every morning we hit the road in the morning we found countless number of dead dogs along the road after night accidents. it was really freak me out.

On the beachs, dogs are thin - sick and look aweful,,, I lost my interested in having a sun bath when those poor dogs sticking around to find a cool spot to sleep.

Here in Vietnam, there is no abandon dogs, if you have a dog you better treat it right, keep it inside or it'll go straight to the dog meat res!
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There is indeed a very great problem in Hua Hin not only with stray dogs, but dogs that are owned and not cared for by the owners.
I have owned trained and have been a breeder of large dogs in the UK . When I first came to TH I was appalled by some of the disease ridden creatures hobbling around the streets and wondering how could any one allow a animal to get into a state such as this ,,, Basically the owners don’t give a monkeys or the creature is just roaming around basically wild .
The best procedure would be to round all the strays up load them onto a fishing boat take them out to sea and toss them over board a few kms out from land and let nature do the rest (this is a monthly practice on Koh Samet which I have observed personally)
Yes it may seem very cruel but to be honest it is the kindest and most economical thing to do
Im sure many dog lovers would be out raged by this, but you have to be realistic and consider the implications of these festered beasts
Roaming the streets fouling walkways with excrement which could carry
Several serious diseases and parasites one of the worst being Toxocara canis and is very rarely detectable in humans until the damage is done.
Which can result in blindness in humans who come into contact with this parasite especially young children other areas affected by this infestation the lungs, liver usually giving the host marked hypereosinophilia and also asthenia, abdominal pain or asthma. Not to mention other diseases and infestations such as rabies, Ringworm, hookworm, Fleas and ticks
And a host of other parasites and infections
So are these really mans best friends or a formidable enemy
A well cared for dog posses little threat and I am sure the majority of dog owners are responsible and caring for their pets but these crippled and infested beast that wander the streets are a serious health risk not only to the loved and cared for animals but to humans
The rescue center in Hua Hin does outstanding work but im sure they will admit they are overwhelmed with animals and just don’t have the funds to cope
A neighbor of mine has five dogs four of which are locked in the house all day, two which are showing signs of blindness probably due to Toxocara canis the other is allowed to roam the streets potentially spreading this around the neighbor hood, when the other dogs are let out they are allowed to soil the soi where young children play, The owner who I will add is a nurse thinks that simply hosing the droppings into the drains is sufficient to cleans the soi
Now this is somebody who has medical training and should be aware of the implications, having young children of her own even more so one would imagine
Unfortunately not !!!!
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Hi Dave,

Cant agree with your idea of taking the dogs out to sea and dumping them, i would have thought that a simple painless injection would be somewhat more acceptable.

I have heard the argument also in the UK about the possable infections that dogs can carry and pass on to humans, this got me thinking about this subject years ago and my conclusion?

Are dogs responsable for global warming, did they build huge power plants that in later years killed thousands of people, do they concrete over vast areas of once green land, or maybe we could blame them for the massive amount of deforrestation world wide, No.

Maybe its time we took a good look at ourselves before we think about the problems dogs may cause,

As you know dave i am no tree hugger . :)

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Many others wouldn’t agree either Mike the fact of the matter is that it is already a practice here in this country on many of the islands .and lets be fair this is one of the cruelest nations in Asia ,
How these animals can be allowed to wander in such obvious pain and discomfort is beyond belief.

The simple injection costs money then there is the question of safe disposal; I really can’t see the authorities paying for this,

I can’t see where you are coming from with your other comments
As far as I am aware a dog does not have the intellegance or skills to build a power station or de forest a whole rain forest in the Amazon.

A stray dog or uncared dog has as much capability to transmit harmful parasites and diseases that can do just as much damage as chemical war fare,

I’m sure you have seen the results of Toxocara canis in a child, it isn’t pretty and in this climate an infestation would have the ideal surrounds to cause maximum damage

The life cycle of Toxocara canis, a common roundworm of dogs, is similar to that of Ascaris lumbricoides, but with a few additional frills. Assuming a dog has never been infected with Toxocara, the first time it is infected the worms develop as described for Ascaris. If a dog has been infected previously and ingests infective eggs, most of the larvae that hatch from the eggs do NOT develop into adults. Rather, they remain in the dog's tissues as "second stage somatic larvae." If these second stage somatic larvae are in a female and she gets pregnant, transplacental infection of the fetus will occur. This explains why, in some areas, up to 95% of puppies are born with infections of Toxocara canis. If another animal, such as a rodent, eats infective eggs of Toxocara, second stage somatic larvae will develop in this animal. If a dog then eats this animal, the dog gets infected. Humans can also be infected with second stage somatic larvae of Toxocara canis, as well as the larvae of other species of nematodes, resulting in a condition known as visceral larval migrans or VLM. The eggs of Toxocara are extremely resistant to adverse environmental conditions, and, once an area is contaminated with eggs (such as a playground, park, or your yard), its very difficult to sanitize the area. Thus, it's very important that dogs be checked for this parasite on a regular basis, and that dog's not be permitted to defecate indiscriminately.
Intestinal infections of Toxocara canis in dogs are diagnosed by finding characteristic eggs in the feces of the infected host. Infections of hosts with second stage somatic larvae of this parasite are more difficult to detect, and many probably go undiagnosed


TOXOCARA AND GNATHOSTOMA AMONG STRAY CANINES IN BANGKOK;
Wichit Rojekittikhun, ; Supaporn Nuamtanong, ; Malinee T Anantaphruti, Somchit Pubampen, ; Wanna Maipanich, ; Kasidis Visedsuk;
Department of Helminthology, Faculty of Tropical Medicine, Mahidol University, Bangkok, Thailand.;

Stomachs and intestines of 88 adult and 112 young stray dogs were obtained from the Rabies Control Subdivision, Bangkok, and examined especially for the presence of Gnathostoma spinigerum and Toxocara canis. Forty-five dogs were found positive for T. canis (overall prevalence 22.5%) but none was found infected with G. spinigerum. The prevalence of T. canis in young dogs was 37.5% (42 of 112) whereas in adult dogs it was only 3.4% (3 of 88). The total number of T. canis recovered from the 45 positive dogs was 272 (averaging 6.0 worms/dog). This includes 268 worms from 42 young dogs (averaging 6.4 worms/dog) and four worms from three adult dogs (averaging 1.3 worms/dog). The average number of worms, according to sex and stage, per young dog were as follows: male worms 2.4 ± 3.5 (range 0-15), female worms 2.8 ± 3.5 (0-16), immature worms 1.2 ( 2.5 ± 0-9), and all worms 6.4 ± 8.2 (1-34). The maximum number of worms per young dog was 34 while the minimum was one, and 35.7% (15/42) of these young dogs harbored only one worm. The body length of the recovered T. canis were as follows: males measuring 3.0-12.0 cm (averaging 7.1 ± 2.1 cm), females 4.1-18.2 cm (11.0 ± 4.1 cm), and immature worms 0.7 - 3.7 cm (2.1 ± 0.8 cm).
Published in: Southeast Asian J Trop Med Public Health 1998;29:744-7.
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Post by buksida »

Nevermind the dogs, can we round up all the builders, stick them all on a boat and dump them in the ocean ?

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