We are looking at buying a home in the hua hin area and are both keen golfers. How easy and how much is it to buy a golf membership that allows unlimited play as from what I have read it is expensive to pay and play ?
Seems if I buy on a development this may be part of purchase but any help and indication of likely costs would be most appreciated
Initially I am looking to holiday in area for 6-8 weeks per year with retirement staying up to 6 months at a time during UK winter. What are my best options
Any help gratefully appreciated
Looking to buy hol/retirement home ? Golf Membership Query
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billywhizz88
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hi billywhizz,
courses like palm hills and black mountain have homes for sale on the course, they offer free membership. but the houses are very expensive.
i dont really know about membership on courses, but i believe it may be a good idea to purchase a house off a course and then join as a member.
i think every course requires some fees even if you are a member.
black mountain has no membership apparently.(unless you buy a house)
courses like palm hills and black mountain have homes for sale on the course, they offer free membership. but the houses are very expensive.
i dont really know about membership on courses, but i believe it may be a good idea to purchase a house off a course and then join as a member.
i think every course requires some fees even if you are a member.
black mountain has no membership apparently.(unless you buy a house)
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All the golf communities have "life time" memberships attached to their properties. BM has 4 memberships per house. In addition, Palm Hills sells non-property owners 30 years membership at about 300K BHT. Can also buy "2nd hand" membership from a third party - check the local paper or at the golf course. I know someone bought a "2nd hand" at Lake View with 17 years remaining term for about 130K BHT. Members can play unlimited golf without paying the green fee, but you will have to pay a "maintenance fee" at about 11K per year or 400 BHT per round (at PH), plus caddy fee +/- 250 BHT and tips.
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malcolminthemiddle
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Following on from Norms post. A life membership at PH only remains a life membership when it is sold on together with the property. A life membership sold on without the property is automatically reduced to a 30 year term according to PH rules and regulations. Life members can nominate one direct family member (spouse or child) to be an Associate Member with member guest privileges and use of sport club facilities.norm wrote:I bought one rai (1600m2) at Palm Hills and it came with a lifetime family membership.
Don't know how much the membership sells for but have heard about 250,000 baht.
30 year memberships are available directly from PH at 350,000 Baht or on the open market as are 30 year memberships with differing terms remaining at differing prices.
If you have the cash for the land now and time before you want to retire, a land purchase with golf membership at Palm Hills would IMHO be a sound long term investment.
Land plots at Palm Hill for sale can be found at this non commercial site here http://palmhills.freeforums.org/lots-fo ... s-t55.html
Houses for sale here http://palmhills.freeforums.org/houses- ... s-t59.html
Of course there is the ownership issue to consider.
Thanks Malcolm didn't know that.malcolminthemiddle wrote:Following on from Norms post. A life membership at PH only remains a life membership when it is sold on together with the property. A life membership sold on without the property is automatically reduced to a 30 year term according to PH rules and regulations. Life members can nominate one direct family member (spouse or child) to be an Associate Member with member guest privileges and use of sport club facilities.norm wrote:I bought one rai (1600m2) at Palm Hills and it came with a lifetime family membership.
Don't know how much the membership sells for but have heard about 250,000 baht.
30 year memberships are available directly from PH at 350,000 Baht or on the open market as are 30 year memberships with differing terms remaining at differing prices.
If you have the cash for the land now and time before you want to retire, a land purchase with golf membership at Palm Hills would IMHO be a sound long term investment.
Land plots at Palm Hill for sale can be found at this non commercial site here http://palmhills.freeforums.org/lots-fo ... s-t55.html
Houses for sale here http://palmhills.freeforums.org/houses- ... s-t59.html
Of course there is the ownership issue to consider.
The only trouble about going the ownership of land/property on the Golf resort is you are committing yourself to playing mostly at the resort's course. In the case of Palm Hills the most boring course around Hua Hin. Much better to sort out your accommodation then buy a membership at Springfield or Lakeview
I haven't verified this, but someone a few years back when I was looking at Palm Hills property warned me that the Hua Hin Muslim community lives adjacent to that development and you could hear prayer call from the mosque loudspeakers there five times a day....a list of properties currently for sale at PH? It seems an awful lot and I wondered, being a wondering sort of person, if there was a reason for that?
Having lived in the middle east for a few years I'm used to that but the first one is around 5 a.m. which I never liked, causing me to have to sleep with ear plugs. That is what turned me off on the property and, if true, could be why some who found out the hard way are selling.
Though, I guess if you're an avid golfer, that could be your wake-up call every morning for a 6 a.m. tee off...
My brain is like an Internet browser; 12 tabs are open and 5 of them are not responding, there's a GIF playing in an endless loop,... and where is that annoying music coming from?
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malcolminthemiddle
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Well if you play the same golf course all the time, eventually the game will become mundane irrespective of which course you play on. Whether Palm Hills is “boring” is a matter of opinion and outlook. My very fit 82 year old Dad loves the course especially walking around the environment created by the well established flora and lakes. But if the challenge of the golf is the priority in retirement then the OP may like to consider a membership at Milford.
A little puzzled why introducing the PH residents’ web site would be called off topic. Isn’t the OP asking for information related to residential golf courses? I hazard a guess that the proportion of houses for sale on Palm Hills is no more than the average taken from all the other incomplete projects in the area.
Can’t remember being called to prayer but the Owners I have met made their decision on issues they did verify.
Happy Swinging
A little puzzled why introducing the PH residents’ web site would be called off topic. Isn’t the OP asking for information related to residential golf courses? I hazard a guess that the proportion of houses for sale on Palm Hills is no more than the average taken from all the other incomplete projects in the area.
Can’t remember being called to prayer but the Owners I have met made their decision on issues they did verify.
Happy Swinging
Played Palm hills several times and you are right, you do hear the call to prayer..its not for me but some people don't mind it..have to agree with others that Palm Hills is a boring course..if the op can play then Springfield is the best challenge...hhfarang wrote:I haven't verified this, but someone a few years back when I was looking at Palm Hills property warned me that the Hua Hin Muslim community lives adjacent to that development and you could hear prayer call from the mosque loudspeakers there five times a day....a list of properties currently for sale at PH? It seems an awful lot and I wondered, being a wondering sort of person, if there was a reason for that?
Having lived in the middle east for a few years I'm used to that but the first one is around 5 a.m. which I never liked, causing me to have to sleep with ear plugs. That is what turned me off on the property and, if true, could be why some who found out the hard way are selling.
Though, I guess if you're an avid golfer, that could be your wake-up call every morning for a 6 a.m. tee off...
I lived at Palm Hills for a year and don't recall ever hearing the call to prayer, but it is a large area so I imagine it depends where you live.
But then my hearing is not to great and my memory is spotty at the best of times. It is a nice place to live though. Although I prefer Cha Am on the beach.
Norm
But then my hearing is not to great and my memory is spotty at the best of times. It is a nice place to live though. Although I prefer Cha Am on the beach.
Norm
I've also looked at property with a similar outlook as the OP and I was very enthusiastic about PH until I played the course. If you are keen golfers, I can't imagine that you would enjoy playing this course most days. I thought it was one of the most boring courses I've ever played. On the other hand, I liked the facilities so I was quite disappointed that the course was so simple.
I really like Black Mountain and though the course needs to mature to be truly great, it shows a lot of potential, the maintenance is impeccable and the properties seem better built and with nicer fittings than at PH. Unfortunately, they are very pricey and well above what seems like market value for the area. Of course, the high price isn't that relevant if the properties appreciate which they may if the club continues to develop. If I had money sitting and doing nothing, that would be my first choice.
Banyan is also a very nice course, the properties are a bit cheaper and they give you guaranteed return for a while with 6 weeks usage but you have to pay a yearly due to play the course. It's not really a walking course since they supply buggy with the price. I did check and they would allow walking if you're a member but the caddies won't like you and you'd look a bit out of place. That was a deal breaker for me as I consider walking an essential part of the game.
Personally, looking at the state of the economy and the politics of Thailand, I've decided that it's not a good investment to buy a property and I'd rather put my money somewhere else where my returns are more assured and safer. For the time being, I'm happy to rent and pay green fees which can be reasonable if you pick the right times. It also means that I can play whatever course I like.
Springfield for example is a fairly nice course and memberships are available but they are a bit further away which means more travel time and either buying/renting a car or paying for a cab. BM and Banyan sometimes offer transport depending on how things are going and I'm quite happy to motorbike over there since it's easy and close. Of course that's not at all practical if you're a couple.
Best is to come stay fir a little while, rent a place, try the courses and figure out what's right for you. Everyone has different needs, means and thoughts about these things.
I really like Black Mountain and though the course needs to mature to be truly great, it shows a lot of potential, the maintenance is impeccable and the properties seem better built and with nicer fittings than at PH. Unfortunately, they are very pricey and well above what seems like market value for the area. Of course, the high price isn't that relevant if the properties appreciate which they may if the club continues to develop. If I had money sitting and doing nothing, that would be my first choice.
Banyan is also a very nice course, the properties are a bit cheaper and they give you guaranteed return for a while with 6 weeks usage but you have to pay a yearly due to play the course. It's not really a walking course since they supply buggy with the price. I did check and they would allow walking if you're a member but the caddies won't like you and you'd look a bit out of place. That was a deal breaker for me as I consider walking an essential part of the game.
Personally, looking at the state of the economy and the politics of Thailand, I've decided that it's not a good investment to buy a property and I'd rather put my money somewhere else where my returns are more assured and safer. For the time being, I'm happy to rent and pay green fees which can be reasonable if you pick the right times. It also means that I can play whatever course I like.
Springfield for example is a fairly nice course and memberships are available but they are a bit further away which means more travel time and either buying/renting a car or paying for a cab. BM and Banyan sometimes offer transport depending on how things are going and I'm quite happy to motorbike over there since it's easy and close. Of course that's not at all practical if you're a couple.
Best is to come stay fir a little while, rent a place, try the courses and figure out what's right for you. Everyone has different needs, means and thoughts about these things.