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Just read elsewhere that no Permanent Resident application has been granted since September 19, 2006.

Interested if anyone has heard different.
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Dutch bloke on my estate claims he got his this year after > 5 years residence and sitting for the Thai tests!
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There's a guy (from Denmark or The Netherlands) in my neighborhood that skipped the permanent resident thing and went straight for Thai citizenship. He got it and is not even married to a Thai (wife is also from Europe).

He is very wealthy though, did have to jump through hoops, and does speak, read, and write Thai fluently.
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hhfarang wrote: He is very wealthy though,
That is the common factor between the three guys that I know that have it also.

Go figure!
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buksida wrote:
hhfarang wrote: He is very wealthy though,
That is the common factor between the three guys that I know that have it also.

Go figure!
Do you know whether these guys may have been able to "short cut" the usual lengthy PR application process (eg, through payment of an unofficial "express service fee")?
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squire wrote: Do you know whether these guys may have been able to "short cut" the usual lengthy PR application process (eg, through payment of an unofficial "express service fee")?
Yes, there are a number of companies (Sunbelt Asia being the largest) that enable corners to be cut for substantial fees. Additionally, from my experience with it, those issuing PR seem to look upon financial status as being the top priority/requirement over all other aspects such as your history in Thailand, fluency in the language, or direct family you may have. Certain countries also get looked upon more favourably.
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Additionally, from my experience with it, those issuing PR seem to look upon financial status as being the top priority/requirement over all other aspects such as your history in Thailand, fluency in the language, or direct family you may have.
Buksi, you must have worked out by now that in the eyes of the vast majority of Asians, the richest equals the best!
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hhfarang wrote:There's a guy (from Denmark or The Netherlands) in my neighborhood that skipped the permanent resident thing and went straight for Thai citizenship. He got it and is not even married to a Thai (wife is also from Europe).
This is confusing to me. I have an email response on this subject from the Thai Consulate in London that states quite unequivocally that it is not possible for foreigners to obtain Thai Citizenship under any circumstances.
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Take a look at this. My understanding is that neither of his parents were Thai. He relinquished his USA citizenship and has been a Thai citizen for a long time now.

Many articles about him if you Google his name.

Granted what he did was a long time ago but where is it written that they have changed the rules? Pete :cheers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_E._Heinecke

http://www.ttistextiledigest.com/index. ... &Itemid=72
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prcscct wrote:Granted what he did was a long time ago but where is it written that they have changed the rules? Pete :cheers:
I've no idea Pete but I think the words "where is it written" are most pertinent!

It wouldn't be the first time that a Thai Consulate peddled misinformation so if it is possible can anyone quote the passages from the relevant legislation so I can reply to the email I received!?

Otherwise, like I said; confusing.
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I also didn't think it was possible nowadays to get Thai citizenship.
In certain circumstances, PR yes.
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lomuamart wrote:I also didn't think it was possible nowadays to get Thai citizenship.
In certain circumstances, PR yes.
This may be the other way around, Lomu?

My late Father-in-law was granted Thai Citizenship (he was Filipino), by HRH. He had good reason to be in that position, and it was explained to me that was the only way, that it did not involve the same, or similar, process as PR. It was based on what he had contributed, and it sure wasn't money! It may have been an exception, but it sounds to be reasonable. :cheers:
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Doubt I would qualify then :idea:
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I've just read on another website a report from a westerner who obtained Thai citizenship and apparently it required a signature from the Interior Minister and Royal approval.
Last year it claimed, there were 10 successful applications out of 48.
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Jaime wrote:This is confusing to me. I have an email response on this subject from the Thai Consulate in London that states quite unequivocally that it is not possible for foreigners to obtain Thai Citizenship under any circumstances.
Think they're wrong Jaime the latest revised Nationality Act specifically added in 'foreign husband of Thai national', previously it only mentioned children and foreign wives of Thai men.
Here's links to the Thai Nationality Acts, you need to read the new 2008 Act in conjunction with the previous 1965 Act, as it says things like 'section 7 shall now include 'x':
Current 2008 Act: http://thailaws.com/law/t_laws/tlaw0367.pdf
Old 1965 Act: http://thailaws.com/law/t_laws/tlaw0173.pdf

Also this more detailed criteria article was issued by Police in a newspaper, it is dated 2004 though:
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There's a similar points system for PR too where you need to score a minimum of 50 points. People that went through the process based on support of family report that whilst having high salaries/tax returns guarantees high points, if on lower salary you can build up points in other areas like 10 points for a biological child, 'x' points for charity work, duration in Thailand etc.

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