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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by redzonerocker » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:59 pm

Dannie Boy wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:24 am
Global warming or not? The following article highlights the massive melting of ice in the Antarctic over the past 25 years - difficult to visualize how much 3 trillion tonne is, other than an awful lot!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44470208
Any thing reported by the BBC these days has to be taken with a pinch of salt, such is their left wing bias and selective reporting.

Just remember, Greenland was once actually a 'green' land, farmed by it's early inhabitants.
Discoveries of lush tropical grasses and trees have been found under the melted ice in areas of Antarctica.

Climate change has been around since the year dot, it's only nowadays that people are trying to profiteer from it.
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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by Dannie Boy » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:14 pm

redzonerocker wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:59 pm
Dannie Boy wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:24 am
Global warming or not? The following article highlights the massive melting of ice in the Antarctic over the past 25 years - difficult to visualize how much 3 trillion tonne is, other than an awful lot!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44470208
Any thing reported by the BBC these days has to be taken with a pinch of salt, such is their left wing bias and selective reporting.

Just remember, Greenland was once actually a 'green' land, farmed by it's early inhabitants.
Discoveries of lush tropical grasses and trees have been found under the melted ice in areas of Antarctica.

Climate change has been around since the year dot, it's only nowadays that people are trying to profiteer from it.
Although I agree that the BBC are not as trustworthy in what and how they report these days, the article quotes many prominent scientists who have been studying the changing conditions over many years, so I believe the article has some credence, but I guess with numbers, you can make things look better or worse by the slant you put on them.

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Post by STEVE G » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:25 pm

Discoveries of lush tropical grasses and trees have been found under the melted ice in areas of Antarctica.
From fifty odd million years ago when C02 levels were more than double what they are now and sea levels were 200 feet higher!

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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by redzonerocker » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:22 pm

STEVE G wrote:
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From fifty odd million years ago when C02 levels were more than double what they are now and sea levels were 200 feet higher!
You were there were you? :wink:

Don't tell me, based on some scientific model, accurately of course, just like the Climategate graphs and data they got away with falsifying to suit their needs.
You actually believe all that crap you're fed. :roll:
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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by redzonerocker » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:24 pm

Dannie Boy wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:14 pm
Although I agree that the BBC are not as trustworthy in what and how they report these days, the article quotes many prominent scientists who have been studying the changing conditions over many years, so I believe the article has some credence, but I guess with numbers, you can make things look better or worse by the slant you put on them.
So did the 'Climategate' global warming scandal. :wink:
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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by STEVE G » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:21 am

I suppose people a hundred odd years ago tried to stop petrol taking over from horses to protect the profits of horsefeed companies!

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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by JWWhite » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:11 am

Politically Motivated Studies Conclude: Global Warming Will Reduce Agricultural Production
https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/env ... production
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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by JWWhite » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:13 am

“Antarctica loses three trillion tonnes of ice in 25 years”–BBC
A really quite disgracefully misleading and emotive headline from the BBC:
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpre ... years-bbc/
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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by Homer » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:48 am

The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.
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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by laphanphon » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:19 am

Homer wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:48 am
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.
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shh .... people might start thinking for themselves. :cheers:
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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by STEVE G » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:37 pm

Jim Bridenstine’s sudden agreement with the scientific consensus on climate change hints that the GOP isn’t as skeptical about the science when it suits them

https://rantt.com/republican-climate-ch ... real-hoax/

"Of course, this would mean that the Republican stance on climate change is deeply cynical and many don’t really believe their own talking points on the subject. They’re just using it as another wedge culture war issue to get themselves elected and protecting donors’ profits to fund their campaigns by keeping the scientists off their backs long enough for said donors to make a profitable, slow, transition to green energy if and when they choose to do so."

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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by redzonerocker » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:15 pm

JWWhite wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:13 am
“Antarctica loses three trillion tonnes of ice in 25 years”–BBC
A really quite disgracefully misleading and emotive headline from the BBC:
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpre ... years-bbc/
Yep, that's the good old taxpayer funded BBC for you. . . . . . . . . used to be well respected, these days they are a complete joke. :guns:
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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by JWWhite » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:46 am

Minimal East Antarctic Ice Sheet retreat onto land during the past eight million years
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0155-6
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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by handdrummer » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:38 am

laphanphon wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:19 am
Homer wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:48 am
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.
- H. L. Mencken
shh .... people might start thinking for themselves. :cheers:
Thinking for themselves? I wouldn't worry about that, there's no evidence to support that supposition. :blues:

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Re: Global Warming 2

Post by STEVE G » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:56 am

To be honest, there isn't all that much thinking to be done, the world is about to change to a new era of cheap, sustainable energy:

New US Solar Record — 2.155 Cents Per kWh!
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/06/14/ne ... y-storage/

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