OAP's in Hua Hin

[Siani]

This may seem a daft question. Are the any retirement homes in HH for expats to reside when they have gone past their sell by date? I was wondering what would happen if someone retired full time to HH and say in 15 yrs time still wanted to stay but did not want to have their own condo, cook and look after themselves. Do the OAP's expats go home when aged 75 and over? Do they board in hotels? I was thinking it must be not too good if you spend 25 to 30 years in retirement and then have to return to your home country? Anyone know please

[ozuncle]

Ask Richard

[richard]

Ask Richard

Cheers mate

My old man took care of himself until he was 98 so I still have 30 years to go to beat him. My brother and I took him to visit a nice retirement home on his 90th but he came out after lunch and an afternoon saying it was full of boring old farts.

Guess it depends a great deal on how strong both physically and mentally you feel and whether you feel able to cope.

I'm sure many over here approaching the early days of doddyness have a young wife/GF to take care of them but to me it's a very personal thing. Either I become a stubborn old Tyke and die with my boots on or I capitulate and return to mother England and rely on the state (tax payers) to house, feed and care for me

To answer the OP question Are the any retirement homes in HH
I don't know and I don't care When I need one of those take me directly to the temple oven please

[Siani]

Thanks Chaps...I did not mean some horrid cabbage smelling heartbreak hotel, Richard. I was thinking of a nice place where there were maybe 4 to 5 resdients, who had lovely rooms with en suite bathrooms. It would have a lounge with pool table, large TV, maybe all watch the footy and chat. They could still go out if capable to local events and bars. They would also have the security of someone looking after them.
I know men can find someone out there to push the wheelchair, but I was wondering what happens to females too Some people like to stay out in the sunshine. Say they did not have any family? It would be a bit of a shock to leave all your friends and go back to the cold climes and live with a load of strangers

[Vital Spark]

The same thought has crossed my mind several times Siani, so I've searched the net but found nothing. If I was an enterprising Thai I'd be building something in the Hua Hin area right now, there's surely going to be a demand for such a complex with the amount of people in their 'golden years' retiring to the area.

We currently live next door to a Thai old people's home. The only one I've ever seen in Thailand. It looks a bit basic, but they have sing-a-longs at the weekend sometimes, and none of them have tried to escape into our garden yet...

VS

[Siani]

The same thought has crossed my mind several times Siani, so I've searched the net but found nothing. If I was an enterprising Thai I'd be building something in the Hua Hin area right now, there's surely going to be a demand for such a complex with the amount of people in their 'golden years' retiring to the area.

We currently live next door to a Thai old people's home. The only one I've ever seen in Thailand. It looks a bit basic, but they have sing-a-longs at the weekend sometimes, and none of them have tried to escape into our garden yet...

VS

I think like you VS...not everyone wants to go back "home" if that is the right term. If they have spent a long time in HH, it is their home. I think I would prefer the Thai old people's home with the sing a long than some sad cabbage smelling rest home in the UK. What we must remember, not everyone wants to live alone when they are really over the hill.

[dtaai-maai]

We currently live next door to a Thai old people's home. The only one I've ever seen in Thailand. It looks a bit basic, but they have sing-a-longs at the weekend sometimes, and none of them have tried to escape into our garden yet...

VS

How would you know? There might be Japanese soldiers camping out in your garden who don't know World War II is over!

[margaretcarnes]

The same thought has crossed my mind several times Siani, so I've searched the net but found nothing. If I was an enterprising Thai I'd be building something in the Hua Hin area right now, there's surely going to be a demand for such a complex with the amount of people in their 'golden years' retiring to the area.

We currently live next door to a Thai old people's home. The only one I've ever seen in Thailand. It looks a bit basic, but they have sing-a-longs at the weekend sometimes, and none of them have tried to escape into our garden yet...

VS

I think like you VS...not everyone wants to go back "home" if that is the right term. If they have spent a long time in HH, it is their home. I think I would prefer the Thai old people's home with the sing a long than some sad cabbage smelling rest home in the UK. What we must remember, not everyone wants to live alone when they are really over the hill.

I think there's probably much less chance of being left to live alone in Thailand than 'back home' Siani. Despite the lack of formal residential care for elderly expats - I would imagine more caring would be given by Thai neighbours and friends than any amount of Social Services so called 'help'! You only have to look around - I've seen farang being cared for by locals on the streets of Bangkok for example.
But as Richard rightly says much depends on the outlook and abilities of the individual.
The majority of expats I know will end their days in Thailand - some already have - and wouldn't have wanted it any other way. However - they are usually people who have integrated much more into Thai society than for example the increasing numbers of farang couples who choose to live in the mainly farang populated areas.
For those expat retirees going 'home' might be a better option. Hard as it sounds it isn't really much different to returning home from places like Spain etc.

[moja]

Something I have often pomdered although hopefully it is a long way off yet. In the end I decided it is the same for us women as it is for some of the men; we just pay a Thai to look after us in our own home, we just do not have to dress it up as a loving relationship.

[hhfarang]

I've thought about it briefly. I do have a younger local wife to look after me if she doesn't kick me to the curb, but I also suspect that with my lifestyle I, like many of my friends before me, will not live to the point of having to be taken care of. A massive stroke, heart attack, liver failure or some other fairly quick malady will no doubt take me down before that point.

I used to say "live hard, die young, and leave a good looking corpse", but I've already lived too long for that last bit!

[lizzy]

This is one of my major concerns but as a Brit who has not lived in England for over 2O years I equal find myself with no support system there other than the state or in Thailand. I guess one of the most important things to do is build up a good network of friends whereever you are and hope that you can be fortunate enough to keep independent until the end. I agree that some enterprising person could do well setting up a small retitement home in Hua Hin. It would cetainly give me a little more piece of mind.

[Takiap]

I'm sure others have thought of it, but it would really be difficult for a foreigner to do because the authorities would throw every hurdle they can find in your path. Also, care homes are somewhat alien to Thai culture, so I guess it's not the sort of business many of them consider. I think you get a few condos here that have onsite medical facilities and/or care facilities, but not sure of the details.

[PeteC]

We have a few threads from the past about this. Pete

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=15874

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=18043

[Siani]

The same thought has crossed my mind several times Siani, so I've searched the net but found nothing. If I was an enterprising Thai I'd be building something in the Hua Hin area right now, there's surely going to be a demand for such a complex with the amount of people in their 'golden years' retiring to the area.

We currently live next door to a Thai old people's home. The only one I've ever seen in Thailand. It looks a bit basic, but they have sing-a-longs at the weekend sometimes, and none of them have tried to escape into our garden yet...

VS

I think like you VS...not everyone wants to go back "home" if that is the right term. If they have spent a long time in HH, it is their home. I think I would prefer the Thai old people's home with the sing a long than some sad cabbage smelling rest home in the UK. What we must remember, not everyone wants to live alone when they are really over the hill.

I think there's probably much less chance of being left to live alone in Thailand than 'back home' Siani. Despite the lack of formal residential care for elderly expats - I would imagine more caring would be given by Thai neighbours and friends than any amount of Social Services so called 'help'! You only have to look around - I've seen farang being cared for by locals on the streets of Bangkok for example.
But as Richard rightly says much depends on the outlook and abilities of the individual.
The majority of expats I know will end their days in Thailand - some already have - and wouldn't have wanted it any other way. However - they are usually people who have integrated much more into Thai society than for example the increasing numbers of farang couples who choose to live in the mainly farang populated areas.
For those expat retirees going 'home' might be a better option. Hard as it sounds it isn't really much different to returning home from places like Spain etc.

Comforting to know that there are caring people Mags

We have a few threads from the past about this. Pete

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=15874

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=18043

Pete I was thinking more on the lines of a rest home, not medical care as such, I wonder if that exists a bit like a hotel with permanant residents

[Siani]

I'm sure others have thought of it, but it would really be difficult for a foreigner to do because the authorities would throw every hurdle they can find in your path. Also, care homes are somewhat alien to Thai culture, so I guess it's not the sort of business many of them consider. I think you get a few condos here that have onsite medical facilities and/or care facilities, but not sure of the details.

Takiap I was thinking of a place a bit like a small hotel for the over 65's not nursing home care. It would be no different from a hotel really as it would not take in ill people. I could not see any difference in someone opening this type of "hotel" or "guest house" but catering for older people?