Last Rites?

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Last Rites?

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Hello,

this is addressed to those Farangs who are determined to stay here for good ( or bad?)LOL

We have to accept that sooner or later our biological clocks will stop.

Have you all made the necessary preparations, such as:

written testament, choice of burial and burial plot etc.

I have heard that reselling a house is far from easy.
We do not have any children, and I fear my inlaws in the States will
find it difficult to sell our house (that we have NOT bought yet)
once we are gone.

A somber, gladly ignored subject for a change.

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To date I've made no plans whatsoever. Our house has only just been officially recognised by the Tessebahn etc, so to worry about wills up to now would have been premature. Even if I had made a will, the house is not mine to worry about (being farang, I'm not allowed to own it), although I will make sure that my wife makes the correct provisions.

Where are my remains going to be buried? - I don't think I'll be too worried about that when the time happens. However, Mrs BB is meant to be sorting a joint JD (not sure about spelling) that we will both share. If you're not sure what a JD is Mike, it's the Thai monument where peoples remains are laid - a sort of Thai tombstone.

Getting rid of the house shouldn't be a problem. My son has come with us from the UK, and will hopefully outlive both my wife and I.
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Don't worry too much Bloodlust, if it happens they'll send up the temple chimney in a dignified way. Just make sure everything is in your Mrs's name and then you should be squared-away or sort out any kids of your brothers or sisters before you go if you want (ie trust funds of whatever size that can't be touched for so long etc).

Definitely make a will if you actually own anything here.

However, once you're gone....you're gone dude. :thumb:
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Just to clarify BB, yes you can own the house just not the land it's built on!
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First depression and now death.............. Happy chap.
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Big Boy wrote:To date I've made no plans whatsoever. Our house has only just been officially recognised by the Tessebahn etc, so to worry about wills up to now would have been premature. Even if I had made a will, the house is not mine to worry about (being farang, I'm not allowed to own it), although I will make sure that my wife makes the correct provisions.

Where are my remains going to be buried? - I don't think I'll be too worried about that when the time happens. However, Mrs BB is meant to be sorting a joint JD (not sure about spelling) that we will both share. If you're not sure what a JD is Mike, it's the Thai monument where peoples remains are laid - a sort of Thai tombstone.

Getting rid of the house shouldn't be a problem. My son has come with us from the UK, and will hopefully outlive both my wife and I.
Just to nit pick and clarify a bit BB - it's a 'jedee' - maybe not that spelling - but that's the pronunciation which is half way there! The small pointy topped structures which to be honest I thought were used more by Thai Chinese to store bones?
I think HH Wat also has niches in the walls where pots of ashes can be kept. Whatever - the main issues here are property related, and if the OP and his wife are both farang there could well be inheritance issues.
To be brutally honest I think that any expat couples should be prepared for their property to disappear into the wild blue yonder after they depart, and should buy with that in mind. Anything else is a bonus.
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margaretcarnes wrote:Just to nit pick and clarify a bit BB - it's a 'jedee' - maybe not that spelling
This is why I'll never be fluent in Thai - my wife nit picks (and laughs) whenever I try. I've basically given up trying. :D

Who uses the JD jedee? I've known plenty of Thais who have ended up with their remains encased in one.
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I'm pretty much in the same position as you are BB. My wife is Thai and quite a bit younger than me so will more than likely outlive me, and of course we also have three kids. As far as burial is concerned, they can dump my body in a trash can when the time comes. :D



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Big Boy wrote:
margaretcarnes wrote:Just to nit pick and clarify a bit BB - it's a 'jedee' - maybe not that spelling
This is why I'll never be fluent in Thai - my wife nit picks (and laughs) whenever I try. I've basically given up trying. :D

Who uses the JD jedee? I've known plenty of Thais who have ended up with their remains encased in one.
How the hell did you do that crossed through word BB? Never mind I'll never get the hang of this IT stuff - I always believed that the Jedee were Chinese - so Thai/Chinese would qualify, and there are a lot of them. Difficult often to know the difference between Thai and Thai/Chinese and they maybe don't know themselves sometimes. Is there such a thing as pure Thai now?
It's actually an interesting topic. Thailand is more multicultural than it cares to admit. But the usual way, as we all know, is for Thais to be cremated - which by Western standards is at a pretty low temperature, so then the famiy can pick out a bone or 2 to keep, and some of those bones could probably end up in a Jedee. Or 'bone house'.
Often the bones are just kept at home.
The puzzling thing is how - and maybe why - odd bones could be incarcerated in a Jedee - which on the face of it is a sealed structure built for one purpose, and presumably for one family or person?
The old Thai teak house on the corner of Poolsuk and Sarawang - now I think a massage place - was for a long time left undisturbed and empty because it was said to contain bones, and as such was sacrosanct, and feared even by many locals. Economics clearly won out in the end and the place lost out to commercialism, so maybe the same principal applies to the Jedee and any other Wat facilites.
But for any expats concerned about their remains in the hereafter there are still other options. The farang cemetary in Chiang Mai is a beautiful little place with proper graves, a resident caretaker, and a statue of Queen Victoria. No doubt there are a few other placers like that in the LOS.
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Takiap wrote:As far as burial is concerned, they can dump my body in a trash can when the time comes. :D
Likewise... and we can consider ourselves lucky they waited that long!! :laugh:

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margaretcarnes wrote:How the hell did you do that crossed through word BB?
Quite simple really, you just Nah, knowledge is power :wink:
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margaretcarnes wrote:How the hell did you do that crossed through word
Click on BB's post where it says 'quote'. Then look either side of the sentence.

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Margaret,

sounds nice, but Chiang Mai is a bit far, isn't it?

Are there no Christian cemeteries in Hua Hin?

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I haven't seen any in all the time I've been here, and I think you'll find there are perhaps only a handful in the whole country. More often than not, foreigners get the same send off as the Thais, which of course is cremation. Ashes can then be left in temple grounds, send abroad, cast into the sea, etc, etc.

While I appreciate and respect other peoples religious views, I personally think cemetries are a waste of space. After all, they simply house a lot of bones. Close relatives might visit a few times, but once they stop, it's over. So, I guess I just can't see the point.


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Takiap wrote:.............While I appreciate and respect other peoples religious views, I personally think cemetries are a waste of space. After all, they simply house a lot of bones. Close relatives might visit a few times, but once they stop, it's over. So, I guess I just can't see the point.:cheers:
Well said that man.
Takiap wrote:.............As far as burial is concerned, they can dump my body in a trash can when the time comes. :D :cheers:
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