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Out of the meat trade, into agony - Dogs of Thailand

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This is really some very sad stuff. It will ruin your day so proceed with caution. :( :( :(

Read the Bangkok Post article before watching the video. The article is filled with photos so I post the link only. The You Tube is said to be an installment with more to follow I guess. Pete :cheers:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investi ... into-agony

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Can't bring myself to watch it. :cry:
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Well I've said it before and I'll say it again Isaan rules are different from this part of Thailand. I suspect the same applies also to different parts of Thailand and SE Asia.

Problem dogs are either put in the pot or sold to vendors or gangs collecting meat for VN, Cambodia or Laos. Some may say it contravenes Buddhist teachings as it could be a ancestor but killing to eat is acceptable particularly if you kill to feed the monks


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Some parts of Issan fatten-up stray dogs for when the 'Dog-van' comes round each month..the practice is simple..poor Thai family befriend stray dog..feed it rice & scraps, dog gains weight, 'dog man' weighs the pooch, puts it in the back of his pick-up bound for Cambodia (1hrs drive), & pays the family cash.
In some regions it's as normal as saving drinks-tins, empty beer bottles, plastic water bottles etc..they all go for cash..alas, when you're poor (which not many of you are)..any sales to help put food on the table is welcome.
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It's a catch 22 type of situation. If the dogs are left with the meat traders, they die. If they get rescued, they die. The problem is, the government could built a state of the art dog shelter capable of housing 5,000 dogs, but they would need to be building more such shelters on a regular basis. Eventually you're going to end up with millions of dogs in shelters, and the Thai government simply cannot afford it. In fact, no government can.

It's all fair and well telling police to act, but then what? The solution doesn't rest only with rescuing dogs. Also, and I don't mean to sound harsh, but fingers shouldn't only be pointed at the dog smugglers and at the authorities. Instead, fingers should be pointed at each and every Thai person that allows their dogs to roam free and multiply. My guess is there are a few million Thais who have far more money than me, and yet they can't afford to get their dogs cut to prevent breeding. They can get the operation done for less than they spend on a bottle of whiskey, but hey, it's all about "mai pen rai". I'm fully aware of the fact that there are many poor Thai who cannot afford a vet, but what about those who drive around in their fancy new cars?


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I doubt the Thai who has more money than us and drives down to HH in a BMW from his luxury Bangkok penthouse owns a soi dog Takiap.
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I can fully understand the concept of a wild animal shelter where injured, captive or mistreated wild animals are kept with the hope of either returning them to their natural habitat or setting up a captive breeding program to increase the wild population but I really can't see the purpose behind dog shelters in Thailand.
I don't mean specifically the shelters shown in this video, I mean in general, what is the purpose of dog shelters in Thailand?
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I cannot see the problem in anyone taking these vermin off the streets - They have my support and if the meat fills peoples bellies then what is the problem?

This comes from a dog lover and a dog owner by the way !
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lagojardin you are a dog lover and see no probldem the way the soi dogs are treated. You are one sad useless creature cetainly not a humane human.
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I guess that until Thailand does something to stop soi dogs breeding, the main difference between the dog food people and officialdom is thhat one doesn't care about the dogs or how they die, whilst the other may do something adequate about their care and dispose of them humanely?

And of course, as seen in the article, the dog food folk will steal peoples pets as well.

Even Battersea Dogs home humanely disposes of unwanted dogs/cats after a while.
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Oops, double post. Mods, please humanely dispose of this post. :wink:

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BaaBaa. wrote:I doubt the Thai who has more money than us and drives down to HH in a BMW from his luxury Bangkok penthouse owns a soi dog Takiap.

You're 100% correct, but there are scores of wealthy Thais who own dogs and just let them run loose and breed with the soi dogs, and when their dogs get sick, they aren't willing to pay vet bills either. Next time you're in town, give me a shout, and I can take you around and show you a few real life examples.


For the vast majority of Thais, vet bills are an unnecessary expense, irrespective of how much money they have.

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Takiap wrote:.......For the vast majority of Thais, vet bills are an unnecessary expense, irrespective of how much money they have.:cheers:
Very strange isn't it given their perceived Buddhist thinking and their reluctance to cull. :? Pete :cheers:
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lindosfan1 wrote:lagojardin you are a dog lover and see no probldem the way the soi dogs are treated. You are one sad useless creature cetainly not a humane human.

Bit OTT Lindosfan - "You are one sad useless creature" !!! WHY ?? You obviously do not live in an area plagued with these waifs, my nights are interrupted constantly with the cacophony created by these street vermin, If it was within my power and within the law of the land I would shoot the effin lot of them... Maybe I'll do the humane thing and round them all up in order to feed the poor Cambodian people.
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lagojardin no I am not a veggie and I have had more experience of these dogs than you have ever had. I used to work rescuing and neutering them. I had stray dogs where I lived but they were not a major problem.
Anybody who thinks that putting 10 or 20 dogs or any other animal squashed in a small cage so they are on top of each other is a good thing is a cretinous useless lump of lard................... Best thing to do with animals like you is to put 9 others who think like you into a 6 x6x 6 box then the 10 of you can enjoy life and be treated as you treat others.
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