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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

Post by buksida » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:38 am

Jail term for those found with alcohol in national parks
The National Parks, Wildlife and Plant Conservation Department will strictly enforce its regulation prohibiting visitors from taking alcoholic drinks including beer and liquor into national parks.

Those found violating this regulation will be liable to up to one month in jail and a fine of not exceeding 1,000 baht, said department director-general Thanya Netithamkul.

He said the regulation will be strictly enforced after it has been found that visitors frequently quarrel and make a loud noise, causing disturbance and nuisances in the parks after consuming alcoholic drinks.

“I have given this policy to department officials all over the country to strictly ban visitors from taking alcohol into national parks, according to a department regulation. Violators will be liable to up to one month in jail and a fine of not exceeding 1,000 baht. They will also be asked to leave the parks immediately,” Mr Thanya said.

In preparing for the flows of tourists into national parks during the New Year, Mr Thanya said the department is now ready in terms of lodging, toilets, safety, cleanliness and garbage disposal.

“But, we are most concerned about people making a loud noise and having a brawl as a result of drinking alcohol,” he said.

Park officials found neglect of duty will also be punished, he said. People who see negligence on the part of park officials can call the department on hotline 1362 around the clock, he added.

Songkran Pakchokdee, director of the office of anti-alcohol networks, said most of the problems causing deaths and injuries in the parks are caused by alcoholic drinks.

He agrees with the department’s ban on alcohol in national parks, saying that it is a measure to protect both the tourists and natural resources.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/jail-t ... nal-parks/
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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

Post by HHTel » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:52 am

Koh Samet, Koh Phi Phi and lots of other tourist venues are National Parks. How's that going to work with the hotels and resorts, restaurants etc.
Once again, a knee jerk reaction without sensible thought!

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Post by StevePIraq » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:58 pm

HHTel wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:52 am
Koh Samet, Koh Phi Phi and lots of other tourist venues are National Parks. How's that going to work with the hotels and resorts, restaurants etc.
Once again, a knee jerk reaction without sensible thought!
It clearly states "prohibiting visitors from taking alcoholic drinks including beer and liquor into national parks." it does not state you cannot drink from an establishment in the park
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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

Post by buksida » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:06 pm

This is a strange one - we recently did a road trip to Sai Yok Yai National Park where there was indeed a few local restaurants selling beer. Maybe they've all been shut down now though, it was last month.

Maybe they'll start inspecting all the vehicles going through the gates - that will impress the Thais as much as charging them 100 baht to look at a waterfall does. I can see Thai NPs losing a lot of visitors.
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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

Post by 404cameljockey » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:44 pm

I thought this was just for the New Year celebration?

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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

Post by HHTel » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:06 pm

StevePIraq wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:58 pm
HHTel wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:52 am
Koh Samet, Koh Phi Phi and lots of other tourist venues are National Parks. How's that going to work with the hotels and resorts, restaurants etc.
Once again, a knee jerk reaction without sensible thought!
It clearly states "prohibiting visitors from taking alcoholic drinks including beer and liquor into national parks." it does not state you cannot drink from an establishment in the park
But they're already planning to put up signs 'Alcohol Free Zone'. I would have thought that covered everything.

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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

Post by HHTel » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:11 pm

The department has told officials at national parks nationwide that they must strictly enforce the ban on alcohol, which includes both bringing alcoholic beverages into the parks and drinking alcohol in the parks themselves.
Source: Bangkok Post.

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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

Post by Vital Spark » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:05 pm

Oh, for goodness sake...

Mr Thanya also said the department has ordered its national parks to offer an alternative way to celebrate -- with Buddhist prayer. (from the Bangkok Post article)

Not quite the same feel-good effect as having a beer or two.

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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

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The govt. will never learn that you can't legislate morality.

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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

Post by europtimiste » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:10 am

Will they check all cool boxes in cars entering national parks ?

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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

Post by Big Boy » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:34 am

Maybe/maybe not, but does anybody really need a beer that much whilst visiting a National Park that they would risk a month in prison. One thing is sure, a beer won't be as readily available once imprisoned.
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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

Post by buksida » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:48 am

I cant see what the big deal is, why cant people enjoy a cold one with their lunch or while sitting in a scenic spot (as we can in other civilized countries)? That is all most of us want to do. The teetotalers and moral brigade want to ban it because the odd group of teenagers has a fight or some twat ploughs a few people over in his pickup while under the influence of a bottle of lao khao. Does that mean the rest of us have to suffer - in Thailand, yes. A real police force would solve all of these problems - trying to stop the entire population from having a drink will not, its like giving the whole school detention because a couple of kids have played up. Shooting a mosquito with a RPG comes to mind here.

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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

Post by HHTel » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:27 am

Big Boy wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:34 am
Maybe/maybe not, but does anybody really need a beer that much whilst visiting a National Park that they would risk a month in prison. One thing is sure, a beer won't be as readily available once imprisoned.
I agree BB. But that still doesn't answer the question about National Parks where hotels and resorts are situated. Islands such as Koh Samet, the Phi Phi group of islands and others. People don't just go there to 'visit'. Holidays are booked on these islands for several days or more. They are designated National Parks. Will that mean that people booking will have an 'alcohol free holiday'. I can't see that working.

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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

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Big Boy wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:34 am
Maybe/maybe not, but does anybody really need a beer that much whilst visiting a National Park that they would risk a month in prison. One thing is sure, a beer won't be as readily available once imprisoned.
YES, YES after visiting a park, after walking around you need a cold beer.

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Re: Another alcohol clampdown

Post by Big Boy » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:14 pm

HHTel wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:27 am
Big Boy wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:34 am
Maybe/maybe not, but does anybody really need a beer that much whilst visiting a National Park that they would risk a month in prison. One thing is sure, a beer won't be as readily available once imprisoned.
I agree BB. But that still doesn't answer the question about National Parks where hotels and resorts are situated. Islands such as Koh Samet, the Phi Phi group of islands and others. People don't just go there to 'visit'. Holidays are booked on these islands for several days or more. They are designated National Parks. Will that mean that people booking will have an 'alcohol free holiday'. I can't see that working.
I'm not agreeing with the new regulation - just another product of the Ministry of Silly Ideas.

Of course they won't imprison for 1 month either. It will be used as a huge lever to extort tea money. No doubt, as with motorcycle helmets, the law will no longer apply once you have made your donation to the tea fund.

Holiday Islands etc had better be prepared to pay a lot of tea money.

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