Isthmus of Kra, Thai canal, land bridge plans
Re: Isthmus of Kra, Thai canal, land bridge plans
How much time would be saved by unloading the containers in Ranong, transporting over land to Chumpong and reloading on ship there? I think they could transit the straights in far less time that it would put the containers over land unload and reload. What am I seeing that makes this sound kind of stupid?
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Re: Isthmus of Kra, Thai canal, land bridge plans
Sense?brianks wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:22 am How much time would be saved by unloading the containers in Ranong, transporting over land to Chumpong and reloading on ship there? I think they could transit the straights in far less time that it would put the containers over land unload and reload. What am I seeing that makes this sound kind of stupid?
Re: Isthmus of Kra, Thai canal, land bridge plans
Ministers trying to justify their jobs in the ministry of wacky ideas that will never see the light of day! 
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Re: Isthmus of Kra, Thai canal, land bridge plans
Six locations eyed for 'Land Bridge'
Six potential locations for a Southern Land Bridge connecting the Gulf of Thailand and Andaman coasts will be proposed to the Transport Ministry this week, according to the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning (OTP).
OTP director Panya Chupanich said on Sunday that an initial study had proposed three locations in each of two provinces as suitable for the ambitious bridge scheme.
They are Laem Pra Chamhiang, Laem Riw and Laem Kho Khao on the Gulf of Thailand side in Chumphon, while the Andaman Sea locations in Ranong are Koh Ta Wua Dam, Koh Son and Laem Ao Ang.
The government aims to promote the land bridge as a transit hub and attract international investment to help drive Thailand's economy alongside its flagship project, the Eastern Economic Corridor (EEC).
Mr Panya said the OTP would submit the completed initial study to the Transport Ministry this week.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/22 ... and-bridge
Six potential locations for a Southern Land Bridge connecting the Gulf of Thailand and Andaman coasts will be proposed to the Transport Ministry this week, according to the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning (OTP).
OTP director Panya Chupanich said on Sunday that an initial study had proposed three locations in each of two provinces as suitable for the ambitious bridge scheme.
They are Laem Pra Chamhiang, Laem Riw and Laem Kho Khao on the Gulf of Thailand side in Chumphon, while the Andaman Sea locations in Ranong are Koh Ta Wua Dam, Koh Son and Laem Ao Ang.
The government aims to promote the land bridge as a transit hub and attract international investment to help drive Thailand's economy alongside its flagship project, the Eastern Economic Corridor (EEC).
Mr Panya said the OTP would submit the completed initial study to the Transport Ministry this week.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/22 ... and-bridge
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
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Land bridge project to attract investors
The Transport Ministry plans to host roadshows in China, Europe and the United States to attract investors in a land bridge megaproject connecting Chumphon on the eastern coast along the Gulf of Thailand to Ranong along the Andaman Sea.
Transport Minister Suriya Jungrungreangkit on Thursday provided an update on the progress of the project after Wichai Sudsawat, United Thai Nation (UTN) Party MP for Chumphon, shared his concerns regarding the negative impact of the project on the livelihoods of people in his constituency during a House meeting on Wednesday.
The UTN MP did so after Mr Suriya said last week that the project had high investment costs and other concerns, including those involving the environment.
The land bridge project was initiated by the Prayut-Chan-o-cha government in 2021 to drive Thailand's economy, apart from the flagship Eastern Economic Corridor project. The land bridge project is touted to be in line with the 20-year national strategy.
Through the land bridge project, the government aims to enhance connectivity in the southern Andaman region by developing a mass transit system.
Mr Suriya said the project is currently in its study process, being carried out by the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning (OTP).
The ministry has instructed all agencies to carefully proceed with the project and resolve problems that may impact people's lives, he said, noting the economic project is expected to also improve living conditions.
OTP director Panya Chupanich said a feasibility study and an environmental impact assessment are underway.
The project requires an investment of about 1 trillion baht, and it will entirely come from the private sector, he said, noting the government will only deal with land expropriation.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... -investors
You get the feeling China will have a big part in most of Thailand's mega-projects ...
The Transport Ministry plans to host roadshows in China, Europe and the United States to attract investors in a land bridge megaproject connecting Chumphon on the eastern coast along the Gulf of Thailand to Ranong along the Andaman Sea.
Transport Minister Suriya Jungrungreangkit on Thursday provided an update on the progress of the project after Wichai Sudsawat, United Thai Nation (UTN) Party MP for Chumphon, shared his concerns regarding the negative impact of the project on the livelihoods of people in his constituency during a House meeting on Wednesday.
The UTN MP did so after Mr Suriya said last week that the project had high investment costs and other concerns, including those involving the environment.
The land bridge project was initiated by the Prayut-Chan-o-cha government in 2021 to drive Thailand's economy, apart from the flagship Eastern Economic Corridor project. The land bridge project is touted to be in line with the 20-year national strategy.
Through the land bridge project, the government aims to enhance connectivity in the southern Andaman region by developing a mass transit system.
Mr Suriya said the project is currently in its study process, being carried out by the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning (OTP).
The ministry has instructed all agencies to carefully proceed with the project and resolve problems that may impact people's lives, he said, noting the economic project is expected to also improve living conditions.
OTP director Panya Chupanich said a feasibility study and an environmental impact assessment are underway.
The project requires an investment of about 1 trillion baht, and it will entirely come from the private sector, he said, noting the government will only deal with land expropriation.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... -investors
You get the feeling China will have a big part in most of Thailand's mega-projects ...
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
Re: Isthmus of Kra, Thai canal, land bridge plans
I don't know much about this sort of stuff, but looked up container ships in Wikipedia, so:
The idea of the land bridge is to have shipping avoid the journey around the Malay Peninsula.
1. A container ship carrying, say 10,000 40ft containers, arrives at Rayong. How long will it take to: unload all those containers, transfer them to overland transport and move them to Chumpon, load them onto ships for onward journey? Same in the other direction.
2. How many such shipments could be handled per day?
3. What size and capacity would the overland transport method (rail, road) need to be?
4. How long will ships need to queue at either end for access to docking and unloading/loading?
5. Would it really be cheaper and/or quicker for shipping to use the land bridge than sail around?
6. Wouldn't the Chinese prefer a canal so that their navy has better access to the Indian Ocean?
The idea of the land bridge is to have shipping avoid the journey around the Malay Peninsula.
1. A container ship carrying, say 10,000 40ft containers, arrives at Rayong. How long will it take to: unload all those containers, transfer them to overland transport and move them to Chumpon, load them onto ships for onward journey? Same in the other direction.
2. How many such shipments could be handled per day?
3. What size and capacity would the overland transport method (rail, road) need to be?
4. How long will ships need to queue at either end for access to docking and unloading/loading?
5. Would it really be cheaper and/or quicker for shipping to use the land bridge than sail around?
6. Wouldn't the Chinese prefer a canal so that their navy has better access to the Indian Ocean?
Re: Isthmus of Kra, Thai canal, land bridge plans
It would probably be pertinent to ask how much the newly appointed minister responsible for the project can cream off the top.
Land bridge project is reassessed
The government is conducting an environmental impact assessment (EIA) for a land bridge megaproject in southern Thailand as it contemplates a massive new boost for the Thai economy in the future, says the Industry Ministry.
The EIA report, which suggests ways to mitigate negative impacts from the development, is required if authorities want to push ahead with the project.
The scheme, which has been discussed for 40 years, aims to develop a logistics network connecting Ranong on the Andaman Sea to Chumphon on the Gulf of Thailand.
Authorities want to create a land bridge as a new trade route for ships, serving as an alternative to the existing route from the Indian Ocean to the Pacific Ocean through the Strait of Malacca.
Roughly 85,000 ships pass the strait annually, with the figure expected to increase to 128,000 in a decade, according to the Industrial Estate Authority of Thailand (IEAT).
The proposed land bridge routinely sparks concerns among local communities over the impact on their way of life and the environment, but it could offer higher wages for residents.
"The government will promote investment and skilled labour development, as well as support small and medium-sized enterprises in the area," said Industry Minister Pimphattra Wichaikul, who visited Chumphon on Friday to meet local industry officials and entrepreneurs.
The ministry plans to help the government develop the land bridge project by drawing investments and amending regulations to facilitate the establishment of new businesses, she said.
"The land bridge will play a key role in driving the Thai economy in the long term," said Ms Pimphattra, adding the project is expected to link to the Southern Economic Corridor.
The Southern Economic Corridor covers Chumphon, Ranong, Surat Thani and Nakhon Si Thammarat provinces and is expected to connect with the Eastern Economic Corridor (EEC), which covers Chon Buri, Chachoengsao and Rayong provinces. The latter is being developed into a high-tech industrial hub, hosting 12 targeted S-curve industries.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/ge ... reassessed
Cant see this happening in my lifetime, it takes them 5 years to resurface a road, then they have to start again when finished since the job was skimmed to start with.
Land bridge project is reassessed
The government is conducting an environmental impact assessment (EIA) for a land bridge megaproject in southern Thailand as it contemplates a massive new boost for the Thai economy in the future, says the Industry Ministry.
The EIA report, which suggests ways to mitigate negative impacts from the development, is required if authorities want to push ahead with the project.
The scheme, which has been discussed for 40 years, aims to develop a logistics network connecting Ranong on the Andaman Sea to Chumphon on the Gulf of Thailand.
Authorities want to create a land bridge as a new trade route for ships, serving as an alternative to the existing route from the Indian Ocean to the Pacific Ocean through the Strait of Malacca.
Roughly 85,000 ships pass the strait annually, with the figure expected to increase to 128,000 in a decade, according to the Industrial Estate Authority of Thailand (IEAT).
The proposed land bridge routinely sparks concerns among local communities over the impact on their way of life and the environment, but it could offer higher wages for residents.
"The government will promote investment and skilled labour development, as well as support small and medium-sized enterprises in the area," said Industry Minister Pimphattra Wichaikul, who visited Chumphon on Friday to meet local industry officials and entrepreneurs.
The ministry plans to help the government develop the land bridge project by drawing investments and amending regulations to facilitate the establishment of new businesses, she said.
"The land bridge will play a key role in driving the Thai economy in the long term," said Ms Pimphattra, adding the project is expected to link to the Southern Economic Corridor.
The Southern Economic Corridor covers Chumphon, Ranong, Surat Thani and Nakhon Si Thammarat provinces and is expected to connect with the Eastern Economic Corridor (EEC), which covers Chon Buri, Chachoengsao and Rayong provinces. The latter is being developed into a high-tech industrial hub, hosting 12 targeted S-curve industries.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/ge ... reassessed
Cant see this happening in my lifetime, it takes them 5 years to resurface a road, then they have to start again when finished since the job was skimmed to start with.
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
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You mean this new road ??
im just waiting for a delegation from BKK to arrive for the ribbon cutting and the photo op....
im just waiting for a delegation from BKK to arrive for the ribbon cutting and the photo op....
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Re: Isthmus of Kra, Thai canal, land bridge plans
A geopolitical tug of war as Thailand woos investors for long-coveted ‘Land Bridge’
China may soon have a “bridge” to sell in the great game for influence in Southeast Asia.
In search of international capital, the Thai government is actively wooing China to help build a long-sought east-west highway and railway land bridge linking the Andaman Sea and the Gulf of Thailand as a shortcut for oil and other international cargo that currently must sail farther south via Singapore and the Malacca Strait.
Inland southern China could then use existing north-south roads and rails to enable overland access, for the first time, to southern Thailand’s two planned deep-sea ports on the Andaman and Gulf coasts, opening westward to the Indian Ocean and east to the Pacific.
The project’s price tag is an estimated $28 billion. Bangkok has also reached out to U.S., European and Asian countries looking for investors. Voice of America reported late last year that Thai Transport Minister Suriya Juangroongruangkit had heard from more than 10 American companies, including e-commerce giant Amazon, but no deals have been made.
In an extended “road show” for potential investors, Thai officials pitch the land bridge as a faster, shorter, cheaper route for international shipping than the narrow, congested, southern Strait of Malacca wedged between Singapore and Indonesia. It is one of the great chokepoints along one of the world’s most strategic commercial waterways.
Not usually said out loud is that the proposed land bridge could become an alternative route if hostilities erupt in the region and the Malacca Strait is blockaded.
Thailand, eager not to get caught in a tug of war between the U.S., a longtime ally, and China, the rising regional power and the country’s single largest trading partner, insists the project is based on economics, not power politics.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... investors/
Its pretty obvious which country will be funding (and ultimately controlling) this if it ever goes ahead.
China may soon have a “bridge” to sell in the great game for influence in Southeast Asia.
In search of international capital, the Thai government is actively wooing China to help build a long-sought east-west highway and railway land bridge linking the Andaman Sea and the Gulf of Thailand as a shortcut for oil and other international cargo that currently must sail farther south via Singapore and the Malacca Strait.
Inland southern China could then use existing north-south roads and rails to enable overland access, for the first time, to southern Thailand’s two planned deep-sea ports on the Andaman and Gulf coasts, opening westward to the Indian Ocean and east to the Pacific.
The project’s price tag is an estimated $28 billion. Bangkok has also reached out to U.S., European and Asian countries looking for investors. Voice of America reported late last year that Thai Transport Minister Suriya Juangroongruangkit had heard from more than 10 American companies, including e-commerce giant Amazon, but no deals have been made.
In an extended “road show” for potential investors, Thai officials pitch the land bridge as a faster, shorter, cheaper route for international shipping than the narrow, congested, southern Strait of Malacca wedged between Singapore and Indonesia. It is one of the great chokepoints along one of the world’s most strategic commercial waterways.
Not usually said out loud is that the proposed land bridge could become an alternative route if hostilities erupt in the region and the Malacca Strait is blockaded.
Thailand, eager not to get caught in a tug of war between the U.S., a longtime ally, and China, the rising regional power and the country’s single largest trading partner, insists the project is based on economics, not power politics.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... investors/
Its pretty obvious which country will be funding (and ultimately controlling) this if it ever goes ahead.
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson