After some looking i no see!!!!!!
Could anyone give me a different opinion or was it as i always thought the super strength of the beer chang.
Beer bottles and formaldehyde
Beer bottles and formaldehyde
In LOS my understanding is that most bottles of brew are put to good use again once they have been emptied and will once again meet a worthy punters lips. When last in LOS i had a big night on the Changs and felt quite worse for wear than having a night on the Heinys. After speaking to a few people i got the jist that it is because formaldehyde type substance is used to clean bottles for re-use hence the rough head. At first and in the past i put it down to the higher alcohol content but after speaking to even more people they mentioned that if you see some older thais who are quite fond of a beer chang they have yellow stained skin around there lips from the formaldehyde.
After some looking i no see!!!!!!
Could anyone give me a different opinion or was it as i always thought the super strength of the beer chang.
After some looking i no see!!!!!!
Could anyone give me a different opinion or was it as i always thought the super strength of the beer chang.
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There is a similar tale that Mekong whiskey is/was actually made with formaldehyde as an ingredient. It's been disproven, but it does indeed have a slight fragrance of same. Petelomuamart wrote:An old wife's tale that's been around for years. It used to apply to Singha before Chang came on the scene.
How "pure" the two beers are I don't know, but formaldehyde I don't think so.
True prcscct,
I do really reckon that these are tales spuriously thrown around by rival brewers/distillers here.
However, the fact remains that if you drink a lot of anything, you're likely to have a hangover.
How bad it is depends on some shitty things that I forget the name of that are left in your body afterwards. Red wine, sherry, brandy, port all have them. Hence thumping headaches.
The beers are not exactly "pure" here, but then what alcohol is?
I do really reckon that these are tales spuriously thrown around by rival brewers/distillers here.
However, the fact remains that if you drink a lot of anything, you're likely to have a hangover.
How bad it is depends on some shitty things that I forget the name of that are left in your body afterwards. Red wine, sherry, brandy, port all have them. Hence thumping headaches.
The beers are not exactly "pure" here, but then what alcohol is?
From what my friends tell me, most if not all Thai beers can be obtained in the USA. If not on the store shelves, from on-line internet suppliers who ship to your house. This also includes Beer Lao, which many friends over there now find very good. So do I, but not the "batch" that has been bottled, bumped, shipped and not opened in 6 months. Anyway, no one ever tells me that Thai Whiskey is available from any source?
We must have some chemists on here who vist HH/LOS...take a few bottles of Thai whiskey home and do some tests...inquiring minds want to know.
Pete
We must have some chemists on here who vist HH/LOS...take a few bottles of Thai whiskey home and do some tests...inquiring minds want to know.
PeteI know i posted this topic in regards to beer chang but other brews are also a great curiosity most come from the same brewer i beleive except for tiger and heinys.
In oz you can purchase Singh, it is the only Thai beer i have found here readily available in the local bottlo and i quite often grab a sixer.
The discussion has also come about amongst friends here and some seem to think the imported Singh in Australia tastes different, personnally my taste buds dont know the difference be it here or in LOS. Maybe when i visit i shall bring a bottle of the stuff i can get here and see if i can taste a difference with the readily available stuff there in LOS.
As for samsung and mekong ect havent seen it available in oz but i always bring a few bottles of samsung home with me.
Would be interesting to find out what goes into the stuff.
In oz you can purchase Singh, it is the only Thai beer i have found here readily available in the local bottlo and i quite often grab a sixer.
The discussion has also come about amongst friends here and some seem to think the imported Singh in Australia tastes different, personnally my taste buds dont know the difference be it here or in LOS. Maybe when i visit i shall bring a bottle of the stuff i can get here and see if i can taste a difference with the readily available stuff there in LOS.
As for samsung and mekong ect havent seen it available in oz but i always bring a few bottles of samsung home with me.
Would be interesting to find out what goes into the stuff.
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I really think it is the age... plus, shipping, bumping, heat in the shipping containers, truck transport pier to warehouse in Oz, truck to retailer, car to your frig and frig to your mouth..LOL.olmate wrote:The discussion has also come about amongst friends here and some seem to think the imported Singh in Australia tastes different, personnally my taste buds dont know the difference be it here or in LOS. Maybe when i visit i shall bring a bottle of the stuff i can get here and see if i can taste a difference with the readily available stuff there in LOS.
Come-on you EU guys, the best beers I have ever had in my life come from Belgium and the vast majority cannot be shipped anywhere as it spoils. I think a local brew, made to be consumed as a local brew and nothing else, is the best beer ever. Thailand, and many other countries, do not make a distinction between "local" and "export"...the formula is to "preserve". Pete
Totally agree with that beer gets spoiled from overheating, or been cooled in the fridge, then been put back at room temp then back in the fridge for consumtion. But i think we still need to delve deeper, i will carry out my little experiment during my next visit and post the results, though i doubt it will be exciting reading.prcscct wrote:
I really think it is the age... plus, shipping, bumping, heat in the shipping containers, truck transport pier to warehouse in Oz, truck to retailer, car to your frig and frig to your mouth..LOL. Pete
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OK, put please hand carry the bottles in your carry-on. The cabin is pressurized, the cargo area is also but....perhaps not to the same temp/comfort degree as the passengers enjoy. I can attest to this based upon numerous cans of shaving cream and other "things" which appeared to have inflated then depress then..leaked! Pete
PS: I once also imported a Thai cat BKK to Honolulu and I swear her eyes were bigger and never receded after that trip.
PS: I once also imported a Thai cat BKK to Honolulu and I swear her eyes were bigger and never receded after that trip.
In Indonesia Bintang beer gives you a similar hangover to Chang, and everybody there blamed it on Formaldehyde being an ingredient. I used to think that this was ridiculous, but have a read of this news item about brewing in China;
Chinese government and beer industry spokespeople this week defended its brewing industry from charges of loading beers with potentially cancer-causing formaldehyde, saying domestic beer contained about the same amount of the chemical as imported beers.
"China-made beer is safe to drink," the official Xinhua News Agency said, quoting a recent report from the State Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine.
Xinhua said administration tests on scores of different beer brands showed that Chinese domestic brews contained up to 0.56 parts per million of formaldehyde, compared to up to 0.61 parts per million for imports. "Chinese beer is safe to drink as its one-liter formaldehyde content is much lower than the standard set by the World Heath Organization," Xinhua cited the report as saying.
The report didn't say which imports had been tested, but said the domestic brands tested included best-selling Tsingtao and Yanjing.
Chinese government and beer industry spokespeople this week defended its brewing industry from charges of loading beers with potentially cancer-causing formaldehyde, saying domestic beer contained about the same amount of the chemical as imported beers.
"China-made beer is safe to drink," the official Xinhua News Agency said, quoting a recent report from the State Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine.
Xinhua said administration tests on scores of different beer brands showed that Chinese domestic brews contained up to 0.56 parts per million of formaldehyde, compared to up to 0.61 parts per million for imports. "Chinese beer is safe to drink as its one-liter formaldehyde content is much lower than the standard set by the World Heath Organization," Xinhua cited the report as saying.
The report didn't say which imports had been tested, but said the domestic brands tested included best-selling Tsingtao and Yanjing.
Well the interest is there so i will try hard to find some unrefridgerated singh and take it on carry on. Once in LOS i will get it chilled and compare it to the local drop. I guess this experimant isnt super controlled but ill try my best. But youll have to wait 6 weeks for results, maybe someone may be able to do it sooner than myself.
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Follow the below link to an article that might explain about formaldehyde in beer.
http://lewbryson.com/formaldehyde.htm
I have to admit, when I was a yungun' living in BKK 15 years ago, I beleived teh story, but I still drank singha.
Thought it might preserve my good looks!
Winkie
http://lewbryson.com/formaldehyde.htm
I have to admit, when I was a yungun' living in BKK 15 years ago, I beleived teh story, but I still drank singha.
Thought it might preserve my good looks!
Winkie
Returnable beer bottles are never cleaned with formaldehyde, just hot caustic and some detergents.
Formaldehyde however is used by some breweries (in most of the parts of the world illegaly) as an additive to stabilize the product or sterilize the tanks for storage. It causes in higher concentrations cancer.
Formaldehyde however is used by some breweries (in most of the parts of the world illegaly) as an additive to stabilize the product or sterilize the tanks for storage. It causes in higher concentrations cancer.
Formaldehyde
There really is a lot of nonsense talked about formaldehyde.
It cannot stain your lips or any thing else yellow.You could not drink enough fomaldehyde to give you cancer.It has been shown to cause cacer in the noses of rats exposed to enormous concentrations over a long period of time. No risk to humans.
Besides,t is found in low amounts as a natural product in everyones body.
Keep on drinking the beer and don't worry!
It cannot stain your lips or any thing else yellow.You could not drink enough fomaldehyde to give you cancer.It has been shown to cause cacer in the noses of rats exposed to enormous concentrations over a long period of time. No risk to humans.
Besides,t is found in low amounts as a natural product in everyones body.
Keep on drinking the beer and don't worry!