Hotel Customer Behaviors Towards Sustainability

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Post by Ginjaninja » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:13 pm

I really wish I was as cool as you knob-J

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Post by europtimiste » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:46 pm

404cameljockey wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:16 pm


And eurotrash, your comment is typical of you.

YES, YES, 404camelshit, it's typical my comment for this stupid and useless survey. I am sure that the majority of members of this forum will not spend their time to answer those stupid questions.

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Post by dtaai-maai » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:54 pm

knobjockey and camelshit - I don't know whether to laugh or cry... :roll:
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Post by europtimiste » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:58 pm

dtaai-maai wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:54 pm
knobjockey and camelshit - I don't know whether to laugh or cry... :roll:
Up to you, who started to call me eurotrash ? Eye for eye........

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Post by Big Boy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:20 pm

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EUROTRASH, KNOBJOCKEY, CAMELSHIT???

Is it the state of the moon? Has somebody put something in the water? What's going on over the last few days? Is nobody capable of a decent, civilised conversation any more?

What does EUROTRASH, KNOBJOCKEY and CAMELSHIT have to do with sustainability? Please calm down guys, and find a more civilised way of expressing your feelings. Name calling is sinking pretty low.

Please get back to topic, and talk in a civilised manner. :offtopic:
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Post by 404cameljockey » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:48 pm

DELETED. OFF TOPIC.
Last edited by PeteC on Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by oakdale160 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:14 pm

Here is a Thai school girl tryng to do a project IN ENGLISH and retired guys with no job cant find 15 min to help her and then make snidy remarks about her wording.. No wonder the Thais are favoring Chinese visitors.

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Post by 404cameljockey » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:23 pm

oakdale160 wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:14 pm
Here is a Thai school girl tryng to do a project IN ENGLISH and retired guys with no job cant find 15 min to help her and then make snidy remarks about her wording.. No wonder the Thais are favoring Chinese visitors.
That was why I was angry. People can call me what names they like, but I will call out BS negativity when someone comes here asking for help.

Let's hope that she now gets a good cross-sample of the opinions of grumpy, bitter old men!

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Post by deepee » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:05 pm

Mandy,
Sorry you have had to endure some of the trashier discussion that some of our board members seem to be immersing themselves into these days.
May I suggest to you reordering the the 3PS to Planet first,then place people second and put profit to third.
A healthy Planet makes for happier people .I''m not sure about how you can really value profits . I don't think that it all comes down to how much money you have left in the bank at the end of the day as the definition of sustainability has to include a reduction in consumption.
If you reduce consumption you need less money ie less priority on profits because you are buying and using less.
Your survey may have been more meaningful if you had asked the board members how they went about their day to day lives with regards to sustainability.
I don't think too many live in hotels around Hua Hin.
Complexity is so simply overrated

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Post by dtaai-maai » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:19 pm

europtimiste wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:58 pm
dtaai-maai wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:54 pm
knobjockey and camelshit - I don't know whether to laugh or cry... :roll:
Up to you, who started to call me eurotrash ? Eye for eye........
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Post by 404cameljockey » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:34 pm

This may be interesting to Mandy. From another forum yesterday:

"All members of the Phuket Hotels Association have jointly committed to eliminate plastic water bottles and drinking straws from rooms by 2019 as part of an effort to ensure a sustainable future for Phuket, said association president Anthony Lark.

The association has also provided information to its hotel members about companies that provide alternatives to plastics for food storage, waste bags and guest amenities. 

Lark said the association aims to ensure a sustainable short-term and long-term tourism environment in Phuket by encouraging its member hotels to take action and adopt sustainable, nonplastic solutions amenities and services to their guests.

“We’ve tracked the single use plastic in place at our hotels and provided the hotel owners and management with costeffective solutions to switch from plastics to sustainable alternatives. We’ve worked closely with the government and support the efforts of Thai schools and colleges to slowly but surely make changes. We will also be recognising those hotels that make the most progress,” he added.

Lark said that the growing numbers of tourists on the island actually helps make the alternatives more economically viable. For instance, the change from using plastic water bottles to reusable glass actually saves the hotels money and this has been demonstrated at many of members’ hotels that have already made the switch.

Phuket Hotels Association recently announced a new annual international forum called PHIST (Phuket Hotels for Islands Sustaining Tourism), which will hold its first event on the island in September to support the region's hospitality industry in its fight for a sustainable future.

The PHIST Forum 2018 will take place on September 24th at the JW Marriott Phuket Resort & Spa and is coorganised by C9 Hotelworks and Greenview, respected consultants to the regional hospitality industry. The innovative ecofocused event will bring together some of Southeast Asia’s key tourism and hospitality stakeholders – particularly those operating in island destinations – to explore solutions to the region’s most pressing environmental issues.

“Island tourism in Southeast Asia is at a critical juncture; we simply cannot continue overlooking the impacts,” said Eric Ricaurte, founder and CEO of Greenview in an association media release trumpeting the event.

“Risks are real and sustainability must be the driving force behind future growth. But how do we change and adapt to the challenges we face, then catalyse solutions across the region? Education is the key and PHIST will create a forum for positive action.”

The PHIST program will feature a series of expert panels, themed talks, technical workshops and roundtable discussions covering topics such as sustainable operations, destination development, and overtourism. The event is expecting 500 delegates from around the Asia region. All the sessions will be free to attend.

Working together is essential for the industry’s longterm survival, said Bill Barnett, managing director of C9 Hotelworks.

“Environmental destruction is a crisis without borders and the hospitality industry needs to collaborate, find answers, and come up with a regional action plan,” he said. “We can literally use PHIST to fight for our sustainable survival.”

In line with the organisation’s solutions-oriented approach, the Phuket Hotels Association will use PHIST 2018 as an opportunity to showcase its “People. Planet. Phuket” campaign, which aims to educate local island communities and visitors about the importance of the Three Rs – Reduce, Reuse and Recycle.

The campaign brings together over 70 member hotels in an education initiative targeting Phuket’s schools, designed to promote environmental protection and support. The community-based programme uses specially created anime characters, including “The Phist”, a school teacher-turned-superhero who fights and defeats polluting enemies like plastic straws, plastic bottles and oil waste in the ocean.

PHIST is supported by major tourism organisations, including the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT), Thailand Convention and Events Bureau (TCEB), and the American Chamber of Commerce (AMCHAM) and AustralianThai Chamber of Commerce (AUSTCHAM). Phuket Governor Norrapat Plodthong will open the event.

Lark added that one of the Phuket Hotels Association’s most important tasks is to create a forum for the hotel members to gain access to information on ways to reduce their use of plastics.

“This is, of course, a global issue and we all decided that we wanted Phuket to take the initiative to address these issues with education and actionable strategies that really make a difference. Every tropical island faces the same issues as Phuket and now is the time to start a serious effort to address this in Southeast Asia,” said Lark.

“When the other destinations see the efforts we make to bring together the community, we hope it will raise awareness throughout the region. The PHIST event has a strong regional message and we have already received a lot of interest from islands throughout the Asean bloc interested in the discussion and working towards real actionable solutions and instilling best sustainable practices.

“And yes, every small step we all take makes a difference for Phuket and benefits all those who visit our beautiful Island,” Lark concluded."

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Re: Hotel Customer Behaviors Towards Sustainability

Post by hin » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:37 pm

With reference to sustainability - why do so many forum users seem unaware that web space is not infinite, and develop habits of cut and pasting almost entire websites or magazine articles that no one is going to read when a simple link would do the job - if somone is interested in reading it.... Or repetitive time after time after time repeated cut and pasting of a long diatribes of a previous poster. It clutters up the forum and eventually will run the forum out of its allotted bandwidth space. Who is going to pay for additional space when the allotment runs out? And even the entire internet does not have infinite space. The mentality for extraneous internet garbage seems to be fallowing right on the heals of the mentality for extraneous household garbage

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Post by laphanphon » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:51 pm

I must not be a millenial, as this is the definition that came to my mind:
noun
the ability to be maintained at a certain rate or level.
"the sustainability of economic growth"
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Post by laphanphon » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:59 pm

OK .... didn't finish and stopped after a few questions. As OP hasn't a clue about hotels in Thailand.

Nationality .... irrelevant
Shower or bath ... rarely a tub in hotel.
Separate recyclables.....yes, but no real need to, as staff will usually do anyway
Turn off light .... key card does that automatically.
After the bedding question......out of there. Who the hell does that.
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Re: Hotel Customer Behaviors Towards Sustainability

Post by caller » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:11 am

I have to say that with the best will in the World, it's a fairly meaningless survey.

As for the Phuket article. Why wait to change to bottled water? Many hotels already provide that in any case.
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