How 19th-century pineapple plantations turned Maui into a tinderbox, could it happen in Hua Hin?

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How 19th-century pineapple plantations turned Maui into a tinderbox, could it happen in Hua Hin?

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ns-ecology

This made for very interesting reading and I wonder what the situation is in PKK, which I have heard has some of the highest density of pineapple plantations anywhere in the world.

Does this mean that there are going to wildfires around HH too?
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in fact even if the production is important, the plantations here are not dense at all and not so huge. If compare with Hawai, Brazil, Costa Rica ou even China.
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So, your diagnosis is no wild fires for PKK?

I would also be interested to know what farming practices are utilised to make the plantations much denser? Are we talking syntropic agroforestry, vertical farming or something else.

Is Dole even a major employer here in that case?
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Blame it on the farming, and couldn't possibly be the powerlines being blown over & sparking the 'line of fire' as it was reported in the news. Buddha forbid they admit to a failed, decaying, unmaintained infrastructure. Almost as bad as others blaming it on global warming.
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^The original article actually doesn't blame pineapple farming as such, it was what happened after they stopped being farmed and the abandoned plantations became overgrown, so keep eating pineapples in Hua Hin!
As for global warming, since 1988 researchers from NASA have warned that the world would get warmer and one of the consequences would be more wildfires and they have been right.
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Re: How 19th-century pineapple plantations turned Maui into a tinderbox, could it happen in Hua Hin?

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I think the circumstances of the fire in Maui were unique, based on the particular circumstances of the island, and if believing what the Guardian has written, the actions of white colonists are ultimately responsible!

Just because there are extensive pineapple and sugar cane crops in the area, and a Dole processing factory in Nong Phlap (as there is in Chonburi), there are, as pointed out, bumper crops of the same in many other areas of the World, yet alone in Thailand.

I hope its not a problem, as where I am, I am surrounded by pineapple. It's on the towns doorstep just west and south. I don't know about the north.
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Don't we have a stack of wild fires here each year anyway? It's nothing new. I saw some beauties earlier this year.
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caller wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:41 amI hope its not a problem, as where I am, I am surrounded by pineapple. It's on the towns doorstep just west and south. I don't know about the north.
Our east property line is fronted by pineapple farm, up to the wall itself

Strangely, counter to the Guardian, they planted (Feb 28th) during the driest months, March/April, and I was scratching my head on that logic, though they took without watering, and are growing nicely.
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There was a recent case of never been seen before fires ravaging World Heritage listed tropical rain forest in north Queensland Australia.
Authorities were stunned at the extent of the damage and stated that the forests were stressed after experiencing years of record breaking high temperatures and a bunch of unusual cyclonic weather conditions (lightning) .
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