Poissoning Dogs

Post by **gooze** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:56 pm

I do not know weather to be sad or angry although I know I am both.

Over the last three days Bonnie & Clyde who were adopted soi dogs beloning to our lovely Thai neighbours have both been poissoned by stricknean and died. These to dogs were wonderful with everyone on the soi including my 9 month old baby. For me my family and our neighbours to watch the distress indured by Bonnie & Clyde prior to there deaths has been a traumatic experience. The children on the soi are all heartbroken.

We have further learnt that one week ago another neighbour lost her Siamese cat to the same terrrible death.

We were considering adopting one or more dogs from Dawn, however I am not sure that my family could cope with the heartake of losing them in the same way as B&C.

It also now terrifies me that my toddler could pick up something and suffer the same fate.

Is there a cure for striknean poissonning (hopefully Dawn may Know). Also has anyone else suffered from the same distressing circumstances.

To Dawn my heart goes out, the distress these two deaths have caused us is emmense how you can suffer this heartbreak on a daily or weekly bassis I do not Know. I can only think you are stronger than us.

I will be making a donation to HHDRC over the next week or so in memory of B&C

B&C were for the record 11 months old.

Post by **PeteC** » Thu May 31, 2007 1:24 pm

Mods, this thread needs to be moved.

I've been through this before also gooze and you need to look at three things. 1) Someone in your neighborhood hates dogs and cats. If the area doesn't have too many residents it's usually easy to find out who, as they always have an attitude and talk about their dislike of dogs barking, cats dumping in the garden etc. OR, 2) your houses are getting set up for some burglaries and the thieves are getting rid of any animals that may cause a fuss and wake up the occupants. OR, 3) some Thai has a personal or business problem with the owners of the poisoned pets.

I hope you find out who did it and they get a good thumping. Be careful of #2 though and be vigilant. Pete

Post by da » Thu May 31, 2007 7:35 pm

When I was in Hua Hin B4 some young people had some pitbulls and related types an the lower class Thai const workers got tired of them and took them out. I know your talking about pets but these dogs were pets too just mean ones.[/i]

Post by **DawnHRD** » Thu May 31, 2007 9:26 pm

I'm so sorry to hear about that, gooze. Poisoning is a favourite way of killing any "unwanted" (for any reason - barking; in the way of a robbery, as Pete says; chicken killers; or just someone hates dogs) dogs. We've had about 20 of our dogs killed in that way.

There are some possible ways to help, if you get the dog in time. Charcoal tablets (available from the chemist) is one. Making the dog vomit (mustard & milk mixture) can work with some poisons, but regurgitation can make matters worse with others. I've also heard that the Thais give the dog raw eggs, but I have no idea if that works. The best bet (always) is to get them to a vet asap & tell him they've been poisoned.

I'm so sorry for the needless death of "your" dogs. Poisoning is one of the most cowardly and nastiest ways to kill. I wonder how the people who do this can reconcile this with their religion (usually Buddhist). I have nothing but contempt for anyone that would inflict that kind of suffering on any living creature.

RIP, Bonnie & Clyde.

Post by **Ellinas2008** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:12 pm

I have seen in the past at least 15-20 dogs in my soi been killed in that way. Horrible and heartbreaking death to say the least.

Post by **crazy88** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:40 pm

I have seen coconut water used with successful results on dogs poisoned with strichnine or caustic soda .Getting it into them is hard work .Better off with the vets .

Terrible practice that is all too common

Crazy 88

Post by **Ellinas2008** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:41 am

Some neighbours told me some people do that because they plan to rob a house in the soi. I do not know whether it is true or not. Truth be told though, the dogs barked whenever a stranger came in the soi. Good guards though painful at times.

Post by **dodger** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:13 pm

Stray dogs are a menace. We have loads where I live and I would joyfully kill the lot of them. Barking and howling all night long. The locals ignore them so they are no use as guard dogs. You cant go for a bike ride without them chasing and trying to bite you.

If the dogs are pets and kept on your property then that is different, nobody has the right to hurt them.

Post by **dtaai-maai** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:47 pm

dodger wrote:Stray dogs are a menace. We have loads where I live and I would joyfully kill the lot of them. Barking and howling all night long. The locals ignore them so they are no use as guard dogs. You cant go for a bike ride without them chasing and trying to bite you.

If the dogs are pets and kept on your property then that is different, nobody has the right to hurt them.

Yeeeees, and the implication is...?

I agree that soi dogs can be a pain in the arse, I also think it's a problem that should be addressed, but are you saying that if a dog doesn't belong to someone, poisoning is fair game?

Post by **kendo** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:40 pm

Dodger, if you want to ride your bike without getting bitten here's wot to do,go to Tesco Lotus and buy a lazer pointer i perchased one from the Surin branch,when the dogs start to take some intrest in you,snake the lazer on to the ground and they will all chase it,that's not going to harm the dogs and is quite funny.Please dont shine it in the dogs eyes though, because they will go crazy and bite you.I can tell you this works very well, in my wifes village you have to walk around with a large stick at night to scare them away,but harming them would only ever be an act of self deffence as these dogs are visious beasts and some wot less domesticated than soi dogs they roam around in large packs 6,8 plus and frighten the shit out of me.

Post by **BaaBaa.** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:08 pm

kendo wrote:Dodger, if you want to ride your bike without getting bitten here's wot to do,go to Tesco Lotus and buy a lazer pointer

Or go to the Grand and get a Stun Gun.

Post by **DawnHRD** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:37 pm

kendo wrote:when the dogs start to take some intrest in you,snake the lazer on to the ground and they will all chase it,that's not going to harm the dogs and is quite funny.

Just wondering how you get the dogs interested in a red dot on the ground, rather than the moving target they were previously interested in?

In all the time I've dealt with dogs, I've never noticed a dog interested or agitated by something get distracted by something small & visual.

I'd suggest aversion therapy - water pistol or loud noise, or food; dry food thrown towards them will usually do the trick. The added advantage of this last method is dogs usually get to quite like someone who feeds them.

The disadvantage of all these methods is they are difficult to manage from a moving bike. But then, so are laser pointers & stun guns.

Post by **kendo** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:48 pm

The lazer pointer is only key ring size and it does work well, try it for yourself.

Post by **Ellinas2008** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:24 pm

kendo wrote:The lazer pointer is only key ring size and it does work well, try it for yourself.

you can also look at them straight in the eye and pretend to attack...dogs usually feel that you are not afraid and they back-up...it has always worked for me in the past.

Post by **lindosfan1** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:10 pm

I am a dog lover, I have a 5 month old golden retriver.
I would love to be able to take my dog for a walk. We have a large garden for him to run around but we both would like to be able to walk without being bothered by strays.
Near where I live there is a pack of 10 strays if he gets attacked by them I have no chance.
These dogs are there because the humans in the world have let them down.
I agree with what Dawn does in rescuing some of these dogs, however the remainder should be removed.
It is not up to an individual to do this it should be done by the local council.
There was a problem in Bulgaria with packs of wild dogs they were dealt with.
At the moment part of my pleasures in life are being ruined by these strays.
I would be interested in others viewpoints on this.