Can anyone point me in the direction of timeshare companies operating in Hua Hin area please ?
Im looking at relocating to Hua Hin towards the end of the year and will be in the area for a holiday from 4th July for a couple of weeks and would like to try to find some employment within the Real Estate/Timeshare sector whilst over on my visit.
Any suggestions very much appreciated.
35 yr old, male. UK
Timeshare Companies operating in HH or surrounding area's
Advice: forget it. You do not want to end your holiday in immigration jail awaiting deportation do you? Do not believe anything many of the employers will tell you like "for this kind of work you do not need a work permit" or "we have applied for your work permit so you are fine now" or "I can sort it out with the police because the police chief is my neighbour" etc. Some are really ruthless and their only interest is getting cheap or even free (commission only!) labour. I was told some amazing lies when I was in between jobs a few months ago. If you need the money for your holiday keep working in your home country, save some more and come in November.
We are all living in 'the good old days' of the future.
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Hi
Thanks for the advice, i may have been a little misunderstood ?
I can afford my holiday just fine, but whilst on holiday i want to try and find some employment because my intentions are, by the end of the year i would like to be working and living in Hua Hin or surrounding area on a full time basis and thought a career/job may be quite possible to find within the property sector of some description.
There must be ways of finding a way to earn a living working for someone out there, surely not all farang's that have made a life for themselves out their in Thailand are living on their big fat pension funds or are company directors ???
Im quite determined, so i'll keep enquiring !
Regards
Thanks for the advice, i may have been a little misunderstood ?
I can afford my holiday just fine, but whilst on holiday i want to try and find some employment because my intentions are, by the end of the year i would like to be working and living in Hua Hin or surrounding area on a full time basis and thought a career/job may be quite possible to find within the property sector of some description.
There must be ways of finding a way to earn a living working for someone out there, surely not all farang's that have made a life for themselves out their in Thailand are living on their big fat pension funds or are company directors ???
Im quite determined, so i'll keep enquiring !
Regards
Lee,
You might want to email the Real Estate agents in town, many of them are sponsors on here where you can see their details. There's a few that aren't on here, I can't name them because of forum rules but they will come up on Hua Hin property searches.
If the agents have nothing they may be willing to give you names of some large developments who might be after staff.
Trouble is though it's going to be hard as we've just gone through a crazy boom, which the agents resourced up to, and now it's quieter.
Still it's worth a go, you sound a determined bloke.
Good luck,
SJ
You might want to email the Real Estate agents in town, many of them are sponsors on here where you can see their details. There's a few that aren't on here, I can't name them because of forum rules but they will come up on Hua Hin property searches.
If the agents have nothing they may be willing to give you names of some large developments who might be after staff.
Trouble is though it's going to be hard as we've just gone through a crazy boom, which the agents resourced up to, and now it's quieter.
Still it's worth a go, you sound a determined bloke.
Good luck,
SJ
Thanks for the reply SJ.
I shall send out some emails over the weekend.
Dandan, i believe your wrong there, as far as i was aware, the company that take you on applies for the work permit, if they are able, i also believe that they can only get so many work permits based on a Thai to Farang employee ratio ? someone stand me corrected if im wrong ?
Work permit would not be the most important thing for me to start out anyway, i have a current business visa which will be renewed in November.
My little bro has worked in Bangkok as a teacher in state funded schools for the last 3 years without a work permit, not quite sure how that works but hey !!!
Anyway, where there is a will there is a way, 1 line negative sentences wont deter my ambitions !!
Thanks
I shall send out some emails over the weekend.
Dandan, i believe your wrong there, as far as i was aware, the company that take you on applies for the work permit, if they are able, i also believe that they can only get so many work permits based on a Thai to Farang employee ratio ? someone stand me corrected if im wrong ?
Work permit would not be the most important thing for me to start out anyway, i have a current business visa which will be renewed in November.
My little bro has worked in Bangkok as a teacher in state funded schools for the last 3 years without a work permit, not quite sure how that works but hey !!!
Anyway, where there is a will there is a way, 1 line negative sentences wont deter my ambitions !!
Thanks
Must admit that I'm not as well up on Work Permits and "B" visas as the others available for Thailand, but my understanding is that you do need the WP in order to work. I think there's a grace period where it may be OK to work as long as your company is applying for the WP (maybe 3 months?), but after that you're expected to have all the documents in order.
Your little brother is breaking the law and is therefore liable to arrest, fines and deportation if caught. State schools may be given a bit of leeway as they need the foreign staff, but technically it's not allowed.
Other members, particularly in the property business, please correct me, but other than the grace period, if there is one, you can't work with just a Non B visa. How are you going to pay taxes? Be careful.
Your little brother is breaking the law and is therefore liable to arrest, fines and deportation if caught. State schools may be given a bit of leeway as they need the foreign staff, but technically it's not allowed.
Other members, particularly in the property business, please correct me, but other than the grace period, if there is one, you can't work with just a Non B visa. How are you going to pay taxes? Be careful.
I would be inclined to agree with Roel, its simply not worth the risk to work on a holiday without a work permit - it may not be important to you but it certainly is to the authorities (and probably the competitors of whoever you end up working for). Hua Hin is cut-throat these days and foreigners grassing up other foreigners is commonplace.
Hua Hin is also one of the strictest places in Thailand for visa and work permit regulations, enforcement and checkups (unlike Bangkok) so I would wait until you have a solid offer of employment (and a WP) from one of the agents and simply use this holiday to do a little research and make some contacts.
Long gone are the days when you can do a little casual work and get away with it.
Hua Hin is also one of the strictest places in Thailand for visa and work permit regulations, enforcement and checkups (unlike Bangkok) so I would wait until you have a solid offer of employment (and a WP) from one of the agents and simply use this holiday to do a little research and make some contacts.
Long gone are the days when you can do a little casual work and get away with it.
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You have been totally misinformed. 2dandan is right. You seem to be getting a work perrmit and business ownership mixed up.lee808 wrote: Dandan, i believe your wrong there, as far as i was aware, the company that take you on applies for the work permit, if they are able, i also believe that they can only get so many work permits based on a Thai to Farang employee ratio ? someone stand me corrected if im wrong ?
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Some jobs need by the Thai authorities like teachers will get you a work permit but only to teach. Large corporates like Tesco of Hotel chains wioll also arrange work permits but it is your responsibility to ensure that stays valid.
If you own a real estate agency you may get a farang work permit for every four Thais employed. That is not guaranteed. The business will the have to pay farang rate taxes (you need to pay yourself 50,000 baht per month and pay the relevant taxes on that and basic taxes and insurance for each Thai.
Email the agents by all means but I think it very unlikely that any of them would consider taking on an unknown farang employee in the current economic climate. Many companies have down sized of gone out of business altogether.
Don't forget it is your responsibility to get the work permit no matter what any prospective employer tells you.
If you persist going this route, get the work permit yourself. Do not trust any agent no matter what kind of profile they have. An employer may give advice based on personal experiences but you need to process the application. The agents who tell you they can arrange work permits cannot deliver the goods.
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Guess hit the nail on the head:
Through the years I have seen many farangs getting in trouble for working without a WP. 9 out of 10 times the trouble started because competitors took action. Not very likely to happen at a state school, at a private school maybe, but very likely to happen when farangs are competing.
I always knew the day would come that I would sound like my father. That is natural I guess. Therefore please follow Buksida's advice:
no matter what any prospective employer tells you
I am not trying to scatter your ambitious dreams, just a word of advice from personal experience. Do not compare your brother working at a Bangkok state school with the real estate business in Hua Hin. Your brother might be protected by high ranked Thai state officials directly related to the school. The farang real estate developers are also protected by high ranked officials but only because of the brown envelopes they hand out. How fragile that is!Do not trust any agent no matter what kind of profile they have.
Through the years I have seen many farangs getting in trouble for working without a WP. 9 out of 10 times the trouble started because competitors took action. Not very likely to happen at a state school, at a private school maybe, but very likely to happen when farangs are competing.
I always knew the day would come that I would sound like my father. That is natural I guess. Therefore please follow Buksida's advice:
And if you are really determined to work and settle in Thailand and you do not speak, read and write Thai start learning today!wait until you have a solid offer of employment (and a WP) from one of the agents and simply use this holiday to do a little research and make some contacts.
We are all living in 'the good old days' of the future.
Just a small point but at 35 years old should you come here and work for say 50,000 a month what are you going to do for a pension when you are 50+
My pension is a mere 1100 quid a month 70.000 baht ish so no we dont live on fat pensions and no we are not all company directors but WE DO have pensions and we worked in a country where we had
1. the salarys to afford pensions
2. Had the brains and sense to save for a pension
3. I live here without any visa hassles WP hassles or looking over my shoulder to see who is grassing me up
4. Came here at 50 been here 10.5 years and aint worked for one minute
My pension is a mere 1100 quid a month 70.000 baht ish so no we dont live on fat pensions and no we are not all company directors but WE DO have pensions and we worked in a country where we had
1. the salarys to afford pensions
2. Had the brains and sense to save for a pension
3. I live here without any visa hassles WP hassles or looking over my shoulder to see who is grassing me up
4. Came here at 50 been here 10.5 years and aint worked for one minute
A Greatfull Guest of Thailand
Thanks for the replies
What can i say ?!?!
You've all just about put me in my place !
I guess i'll just have to stay put, here in SUNNY Essex, work my balls off until im 65, or maybe 70 as the goverment is likely to put the retirement age up soon, and then simmer down gently in some run down state retiremnent home !
My Thai girlfriend will have to find one of the the more mature, wealthier type of gentleman to settle down with and i'll find some big bird from down at Basildon to spend the rest of my life with !!!
I cant wait, lol !
Thanks Guys
You've all just about put me in my place !
I guess i'll just have to stay put, here in SUNNY Essex, work my balls off until im 65, or maybe 70 as the goverment is likely to put the retirement age up soon, and then simmer down gently in some run down state retiremnent home !
My Thai girlfriend will have to find one of the the more mature, wealthier type of gentleman to settle down with and i'll find some big bird from down at Basildon to spend the rest of my life with !!!
I cant wait, lol !
Thanks Guys
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Hey, don't take it too hard Lee.
The above wise posters have given you the general run-down and some good advice. All's not lost. If you seriously want to get out of the UK, then you could get a teaching job, but do it legally. Get a teaching certificate (CELTA or TEFL) and then get a job with a work permit. As the wise ones said, the Immigration here are pretty strict and your brother may have got away with it in BKK, but it's a different story here. Follow the legurations and lures and you should be OK.
Timeshares (in my opinion) are for Southern Spain and the Canaries. I do hope that they haven't started here. All that free wine, etc. for a tour around a condo...
VS
The above wise posters have given you the general run-down and some good advice. All's not lost. If you seriously want to get out of the UK, then you could get a teaching job, but do it legally. Get a teaching certificate (CELTA or TEFL) and then get a job with a work permit. As the wise ones said, the Immigration here are pretty strict and your brother may have got away with it in BKK, but it's a different story here. Follow the legurations and lures and you should be OK.
Timeshares (in my opinion) are for Southern Spain and the Canaries. I do hope that they haven't started here. All that free wine, etc. for a tour around a condo...
VS
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VS Thanks,
I guess im a touch too sensitive sometimes, and the spirit goes, but only for a very short while.
Regarding the timeshare thingy, i agree with you, and i know what you mean about dodgy people selling shabby unfinished timeshares.
i am just looking at all opportunities and the reason i mentioned timeshares was that i seem to remember when i was staying over in Hua Hin this winter i read somewhere about very reputable companies i.e Marriot and Grand Laguna selling some kind of timeshares in either HH or Cha Am, only thing is i cant remember where i read this or see it advertised.
I am very serious about getting over and making a life for myself out their and i wont agree with some peoples suggestions that basically it is a closed shop unless you have a pension or can afford to start your own company !
I am a qualified, Mechanical precision engineer by true profession, (done my apprenticeship at Marconi about 16 years ago) and may eventually start to look at finding something in this kind of thing once i have found that there are no openings doing something else, just fancied a change really, for engineering jobs i would probably have to look over in the Rayong (Eastern Seaboard area), but hey, its a much better commute than from the UK ! and cheaper !
As regards to teaching, not really sure if it's me but maybe i would enjoy it, maybe a metal work teacher, lol.
My girlfriends stepdad is an English guy, and he is Headmaster of a very plush International School in Bangkok, Maybe i'll have to start being very nice to him.......
Thanks for your thoughts, and maybe i'll find something before the end of the year......
I guess im a touch too sensitive sometimes, and the spirit goes, but only for a very short while.
Regarding the timeshare thingy, i agree with you, and i know what you mean about dodgy people selling shabby unfinished timeshares.
i am just looking at all opportunities and the reason i mentioned timeshares was that i seem to remember when i was staying over in Hua Hin this winter i read somewhere about very reputable companies i.e Marriot and Grand Laguna selling some kind of timeshares in either HH or Cha Am, only thing is i cant remember where i read this or see it advertised.
I am very serious about getting over and making a life for myself out their and i wont agree with some peoples suggestions that basically it is a closed shop unless you have a pension or can afford to start your own company !
I am a qualified, Mechanical precision engineer by true profession, (done my apprenticeship at Marconi about 16 years ago) and may eventually start to look at finding something in this kind of thing once i have found that there are no openings doing something else, just fancied a change really, for engineering jobs i would probably have to look over in the Rayong (Eastern Seaboard area), but hey, its a much better commute than from the UK ! and cheaper !
As regards to teaching, not really sure if it's me but maybe i would enjoy it, maybe a metal work teacher, lol.
My girlfriends stepdad is an English guy, and he is Headmaster of a very plush International School in Bangkok, Maybe i'll have to start being very nice to him.......
Thanks for your thoughts, and maybe i'll find something before the end of the year......