Hi All
A friend of mine needs a quiestion answered? He went to Penang Malaysia recently and got a two month visitors visa and now needs to go again soon somewhere to get another visa? what country is the cheapest option I.E Loas Cambodia or Burma , He need a visitors visa as I say and money is tight? If he goes to Burma can he get a 2 month visa even if he stays over night?
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The first thing to point out is that neighbouring Embassies and consulates do blow hot and cold regarding the issuance of tourist visas and what, if anything, they like to see at application stage. To the best of my knowledge, I suggest the following if on a tight budget.
Forget Burma. Your friend will only get a 15 day visa exempt stamp if he crosses from Ranong and back. Yangoon is the only place to get a proper visa and I wouldn't rely on them. He'll have to fly there and pay for a Burmese visa.
Veintianne are still issuing either single or double-entry tourist visas. The latter would be useful if the intended stay is more than 90 days (ie 60 days on entry+one extension of 30 days, exit through Ranong to activate the second entry and repeat. Double entry will give up to 6 months - 180 days). The traveling will be longer and more expensive than Malaysia and he'll need a visa for Laos (can be got in Nong Khai).
Phnom Phen seems OK at the moment, but personally, I wouldn't chance it there. They are known for issuing visas to Cambodian nationals only. Again, a visa to Cambodia will be necessary.
Penang again seems the best bet. No visa fee into the country and they seem relaxed about back-to-back tourist visas at the moment.
Remember that the free tourist visa scheme has been extended until March (I think) next year.
Also remember that your friend can extend his tourist visa here in HH for 30 days - cost 1,900 Baht.
Forget Burma. Your friend will only get a 15 day visa exempt stamp if he crosses from Ranong and back. Yangoon is the only place to get a proper visa and I wouldn't rely on them. He'll have to fly there and pay for a Burmese visa.
Veintianne are still issuing either single or double-entry tourist visas. The latter would be useful if the intended stay is more than 90 days (ie 60 days on entry+one extension of 30 days, exit through Ranong to activate the second entry and repeat. Double entry will give up to 6 months - 180 days). The traveling will be longer and more expensive than Malaysia and he'll need a visa for Laos (can be got in Nong Khai).
Phnom Phen seems OK at the moment, but personally, I wouldn't chance it there. They are known for issuing visas to Cambodian nationals only. Again, a visa to Cambodia will be necessary.
Penang again seems the best bet. No visa fee into the country and they seem relaxed about back-to-back tourist visas at the moment.
Remember that the free tourist visa scheme has been extended until March (I think) next year.
Also remember that your friend can extend his tourist visa here in HH for 30 days - cost 1,900 Baht.
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good info Lomumart.
I stupidly enough forgot all about it, when I went to HH this time. Staying 40 days before return to Europe with ThaiAir.
Do you know what happens if I just show up in Suvarnabumi, when I go back ?
And if problems, where in HH can I get whatever permission I need for these 10 more days.
I stupidly enough forgot all about it, when I went to HH this time. Staying 40 days before return to Europe with ThaiAir.
Do you know what happens if I just show up in Suvarnabumi, when I go back ?
And if problems, where in HH can I get whatever permission I need for these 10 more days.
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Only that there's no fee at Thai Embassies or consulates for tourist visas until next March. The "offer" originally ran out this June, I think, but the government extended it until next year.
Some honourary consulates who rely on visa income are charging a "handling fee" for their services, but there's no charge for the visa itself.
Some honourary consulates who rely on visa income are charging a "handling fee" for their services, but there's no charge for the visa itself.
My experience is that you'll be taken before the beak (or whoever he is), read the riot act in Thai (if you're like me you won't understand a word of the bollocking he gives you - just say you're very sorry) and finally, you'll be asked to pay an overstay fine. You'll get a nice stamp in your passport, and the job is done.bircow wrote:I stupidly enough forgot all about it, when I went to HH this time. Staying 40 days before return to Europe with ThaiAir.
Do you know what happens if I just show up in Suvarnabumi, when I go back ?
I'm sure somebody will correct me if the procedure has updated.
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bircow,
I assume you've got a 30 day visa exempt stamp? If that's the case, then there's not much you can do here in Thailand to cover your extra 10 days. Imm will occasionally grant an extension of 7 days (1,900 Baht) as long as you show a flight ticket out of the country within those 7 days. Unfortunately, your return is 10 days later so I don't think they'll give you the extra 7, but it's worth asking about. You'll probably be told to go to Ranong and over to Burma where, on your return, you'll get a 15 day visa exempt stamp which'll cover you.
If you turn up at the airport on a 10 day overstay, I don't think you'll get too much trouble. The fine is 500 Baht a day, so your's will be 5,000. As BB says, you'll get an overstay stamp in your passport, but that won't be a hinderance to any entry in the future. I don't think you'll be taken in front of a court unless you cause a fuss at the airport and they arrest you - just pay the fine.
However, I'm not advocating the overstay route. It's illegal and if you're unlucky enough to have to produce your passport whilst on overstay and before you get to the airport, you will be in trouble. Arrested, imprisoned at the local nick, transferred to Imm Detention Centre in BKK (not a nice place) and deported once your fine is paid and you're on the plane. This will affect your ability to return to Thailand.
You're much better off going to Ranong to stay legal. It's a day out of your holiday, but better than getting locked up.
I assume you've got a 30 day visa exempt stamp? If that's the case, then there's not much you can do here in Thailand to cover your extra 10 days. Imm will occasionally grant an extension of 7 days (1,900 Baht) as long as you show a flight ticket out of the country within those 7 days. Unfortunately, your return is 10 days later so I don't think they'll give you the extra 7, but it's worth asking about. You'll probably be told to go to Ranong and over to Burma where, on your return, you'll get a 15 day visa exempt stamp which'll cover you.
If you turn up at the airport on a 10 day overstay, I don't think you'll get too much trouble. The fine is 500 Baht a day, so your's will be 5,000. As BB says, you'll get an overstay stamp in your passport, but that won't be a hinderance to any entry in the future. I don't think you'll be taken in front of a court unless you cause a fuss at the airport and they arrest you - just pay the fine.
However, I'm not advocating the overstay route. It's illegal and if you're unlucky enough to have to produce your passport whilst on overstay and before you get to the airport, you will be in trouble. Arrested, imprisoned at the local nick, transferred to Imm Detention Centre in BKK (not a nice place) and deported once your fine is paid and you're on the plane. This will affect your ability to return to Thailand.
You're much better off going to Ranong to stay legal. It's a day out of your holiday, but better than getting locked up.
Yeah bircow, as said, it'll be a condesending, sanctimonious lecture and then pay a fee and you'll be on your way. As Lomuamart says though, could be a problem if you're caught out before you get to the airport.
Don't know how many times they let you overstay before it's a problem but best to make an effort not to do it very often as they give you an overstay stamp and as said it's the law.
Don't know how many times they let you overstay before it's a problem but best to make an effort not to do it very often as they give you an overstay stamp and as said it's the law.
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lomuamart wrote:
My fault - bad choice of words.
Sorry guys, when I said "Taken before the beak," I was referring to a senior uniformed officer at the airport. I didn't mean taken in front of a court.I don't think you'll be taken in front of a court unless you cause a fuss at the airport and they arrest you - just pay the fine.
My fault - bad choice of words.
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I'm pretty sure that you'd miss your flight if taken to court and then in even more troubleBig Boy wrote:lomuamart wrote:Sorry guys, when I said "Taken before the beak," I was referring to a senior uniformed officer at the airport. I didn't mean taken in front of a court.I don't think you'll be taken in front of a court unless you cause a fuss at the airport and they arrest you - just pay the fine.
My fault - bad choice of words.
When your friends 60 day tourist visa gets down to the last day, a trip to the nearest immigration office with 1,900 Baht will get another 30 days.
After that, another trip to the nearest immigration office with the magical 1,900 baht will get another 7 days.
Then it's off for another tourist visa run.
I prefer/recommend Poipet, Cambodia or Vientiane, Laos.
Will send you some info shortly.
After that, another trip to the nearest immigration office with the magical 1,900 baht will get another 7 days.
Then it's off for another tourist visa run.
I prefer/recommend Poipet, Cambodia or Vientiane, Laos.
Will send you some info shortly.
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A couple of small things.
Firstly, it's not necessary to go for the 30 day extension on the last day that your permitted to stay stamp expires. You could go a week early and not lose any time. The 30 day extension will be given from the last day of the permitted to stay stamp, not from the date of application. I always reckon it's best to go early in case there's some problem or Imm is closed for one of the many holidays here.
Secondly, a further 7 day extension is not automatic and is generally only given in exceptional circumstances. I wouldn't rely on getting it and you'll almost certainly need a ticket out of Thailand within those 7 days.
Firstly, it's not necessary to go for the 30 day extension on the last day that your permitted to stay stamp expires. You could go a week early and not lose any time. The 30 day extension will be given from the last day of the permitted to stay stamp, not from the date of application. I always reckon it's best to go early in case there's some problem or Imm is closed for one of the many holidays here.
Secondly, a further 7 day extension is not automatic and is generally only given in exceptional circumstances. I wouldn't rely on getting it and you'll almost certainly need a ticket out of Thailand within those 7 days.
Lomuamart, I did not know that you could go anytime and get an extension without forfeiting your remaining days; Thanks, I will check that out.
Also, I have been getting the 7 day extension every 3 months since March 2008 from Hua Hin Immigration with no problems or anything at all mentioned or asked.....and never have had a ticket for departure.
Also, I have been getting the 7 day extension every 3 months since March 2008 from Hua Hin Immigration with no problems or anything at all mentioned or asked.....and never have had a ticket for departure.
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OK, I learn something new every day. That's good info for those on tourist visas in HH.
There was only one time when I was actually too early to extend my TV. Years ago on Samui. I was probably trying for it about 5 weeks before the permitted to stay stamp expired as I was going upcountry at some point and didn't know if I could extend easily up there. Was told to come back in 2 weeks, which I did and got the extension then - dated 30 days from 3 weeks or so in the future. I've always extended TVs about a week early with no loss of time.
There was only one time when I was actually too early to extend my TV. Years ago on Samui. I was probably trying for it about 5 weeks before the permitted to stay stamp expired as I was going upcountry at some point and didn't know if I could extend easily up there. Was told to come back in 2 weeks, which I did and got the extension then - dated 30 days from 3 weeks or so in the future. I've always extended TVs about a week early with no loss of time.