Dog Finds It's Way Home After 15km 3-Day Escapade.

[MrPlum]

I'm not very comfortable with this situation but am undecided as to the best approach. We have a female dog who has made friends with a couple of Soi dogs. They encamped in the garden, which we don't mind. They play well together. Unfortunately the Soi dogs leap the gate and chase motorbikes, a dangerous and worrying habit. It's not possible to raise the height of the gate, we've tried and the landlord wouldn't have it anyway.

A 'friendly' Thai policeman advised us to bring the dogs under control or he would shoot them so rather than risk such a fate we managed to coax the dogs into the car and dropped them 15km away from the house, with some food and water, in the hope they would find another home.

3 days later one returned bedraggled, limping and smelling strongly from foraging in the bins. God knows how many scraps he must have had fighting his way back. I don't have the heart to put the poor dog through it again. He's still getting over his ordeal.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how we can humanely keep the dog away and avoid a possibly sticky end?

Thanks.

[lindosfan1]

mr plum
That is one of the most disgusting stories I have read on this site.
Did you think it was humane to dump 2 dogs 15 k away.You state he is getting over his ordeal, who submitted him to this ordeal. Animals are not toys you play with and discard.
IMO that is a disgusting thing to do to a dog, and it says a lot about the sort of person you are.

[MrPlum]

Your personal issues with me are well known Mr lindosfan1 and entirely predictable. What time are you coming over to take the dog off our hands? Unless you are prepared to do so, piss off with your fake outrage.

Anyone else who wishes to offer condemnation is also welcome to come and take the dog off our hands.

I said it was a difficult decision and we made it reluctantly. We took the dogs in only recently after a bigger dog drove them off their patch and they were clearly hungry. So don't f**king lecture me on compassion. However, we are not a kennel and it's not our house. The options open to us seem limited. Especially after a bag of poisoned meat was tossed into the yard by someone else trying to solve the problem. We had to remove the dogs from the property ASAP or risk losing both them and our own dog. They are obviously better off taking their chances than dead.

Option 1. Leave the dog to carry on and let it upend and injure some passing female with children on their motorcycle.

Option 2. Take it to the local Wat from whence it will be back in 5 minutes.

Option 3. Take it far away from the property where it is unlikely to find it's way back and hopefully it will find itself another home.

Option 4. Chain it up. No chance.

Option 5. Do nothing and wait for it to be shot/poisoned/run over.

Option 6. Take it to a kennel where it can be caged until someone takes pity on it. I don't like that option either.

I'll ask again. Anyone have a practical solution? Thanks.

[nevets]

You say the dog (s) jump the gate , i assume the fence is to high .
If you could put an angled piece pointing in toward the garden at the top or a bit lower down as to not be seen from the street side . The dog has to jump up but can not go over because the fence gate has an overhang to surmount.

[MrPlum]

You say the dog (s) jump the gate , i assume the fence is to high .
If you could put an angled piece pointing in toward the garden at the top or a bit lower down as to not be seen from the street side . The dog has to jump up but can not go over because the fence gate has an overhang to surmount.

Tried it. The gate is a low sliding one that travels through a supporting guide rail. So anything on the top or sides prevents the gate from opening. The dogs can also leap the surrounding wall, which is also low. I can't install anything permanent since the home owners won't allow any fencing or the front of the house to be changed in any material way. Why should they? We took the dogs in without their knowledge and approval and it was never our intention to keep them. We just haven't really known what to do with them since.

Whoever threw the poisoned meat will try again. I've seen it before. The dogs need to be removed for their own protection. The question is, where to?

[lindosfan1]

mrplum
You obviously have got on your high horse yet again.
I worked with Dawn with the headrock dogs. I know about stray dogs I have dealt with stray dogs,
By letting the dogs stay at your house you assumed responsibility for them, they became loyal, it was a feeding place and they felt safe.
So you in your infinite wisdom decided to dump them the worse thing you can possibly do.
By putting them in a rehoming kennels. which there are some I believe, they would be rehomed to a RESPONSIBLE caring person. Which you obviously are not. Telling me to p*** off is one of your typical actions.
I care for animals my actions are proven, you do not, proven by your actions.




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[MrPlum]

mrplum
You abviusly have got on your high horse yet again.
I worked with Dawn with the headrock dogs. I know about stray dogs I have dealt with stray dogs,
By letting the dogs stay at your house you assumed responsibility for them, they became loyal, it was a feeding place and they felt safe.
So you in your infinite wisdom decided to dump them the worse thing you can possibly do.
By putting them in a rehoming kennels. which there are some I believe, they would be rehomed to a RESPONSIBLE caring person. Which you obviously are not. Telling me to p*** off is one of your typical actions.
I care for animals my actions are proven, you do not, proven by your actions.




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Show how much you care by providing actual contact details. That's all that is necessary from you. If you can't do that, spare me your sanctimony.

[Lev]

lindosfan, it appears that you are following certain members around this board in an effort to antagonize them.

This was a reasonable request to a problem that many people may suffer in Hua Hin, please do not turn this thread into a slanging match, answers and solutions to the problem posted could help others.

[lindosfan1]

Sorry i do not have the contact details but one of the vets may be able to advise you of a suitable kennels

[richard]

Put them on a bus to Isaan. They will quickly adapt or get eaten. Sorry tongue in cheek

Seriously I have a friend whos dog suddenly turned and became a threat. No amount of pleading with local authorities seemed to work but somehow he got it kenneled. Took time though. Not with our dearly beloved Dawn by the way

I have seen dogs in Isaan (my own included) taken into the bush and most released to fend for themselves. Others end up in the pot of a noodle vending stall.

Think you really have to shop around for a humane solution and that will take time and patience

Best of luck

ps Personally I have never had any problems with soi or wild dogs. Feed them, give them some affection but Scold them heavy if they disobey. Easy for me to say as I have never been afraid of dogs as I grew up with German shepherds since 3 years old.

Care, comfort and strict scolding is the key

[Vital Spark]

Let's try a sensible reply to a difficult situation shall we?

A friend of mine, who has a couple of dogs, had a similar problem with a soi dog wanting to join his happy family. He took the little fella to the temple at the top of the drag along the Pala U road - near to where Dawn used to have her pound I think. He arranged the drop-off with them, and took along a sack of dog food as a donation. He also said that the other dogs there looked reasonably well looked after. They were happy to take him, and he hasn't seen him since.

I'm sorry I don't know the name or tel. number of the temple, but maybe a Thai friend could help. You never really know how well they're looked after, but it's certainly better than the situation you're in at the moment.

Good luck, and I hope there's a happy ending to your predicament.

VS

[lindosfan1]

Vital Spark
I this case I do not think the a local temple is a viable option.
The dog has already found his way to the home given him once.
Dogs have amazing senses, we put dogs in temples from the centre somtimes, in return we gave basic medical assistance and food. We put one dog in and it found its way to Dawns house although it had never been there before.
Normally I would agree with you, but the homing instinct is strong in some animals.

[BaaBaa.]

As a last resort I would've done the same as Mr P (Maybe an extra 15k)

I don't see why he should interrupt his lifesytle for a scavenging soi dog.

[komfortablynumb]

You could move.
Don't give the soi dogs your forwarding adress.
Maybe move 15k away.
If they find you again then they are too smart for you.
What a sad story.

[PeteC]

However this turns out short of euthanizing him, think about spending a few Baht and getting him neutered before taking him elsewhere. If you decide to keep him, you may find this alone will calm him down and stop him from being so aggressive and jumping walls. Pete