How long can one remain a dog lover

[Aussie Mark]

Mr Lindosfan

At no stage was I criticising the lady mentioned just thought money would be better spent on children than dogs.Surley u would rather c a child get food than a ferel animal if not you r a crazy old dude.As for not living in Hua Hin I actually spend quite a bit of time there as I own a house in Hua Hin

yours in just my opinion as its a free world in Australia

Ps I am a animal lover when my racehorses/greyhounds win

[hhfarang]

Dawn wrote:

Before deriding people, hhf, maybe you should take the time to talk to them and find out what they are doing?

I wasn't deriding them, I applaud what they are doing!

[hhfarang]

D-M wrote:

Then again, maybe Thai feral dogs are just too damn lazy.

[DawnHRD]

Mr Lindosfan

At no stage was I criticising the lady mentioned just thought money would be better spent on children than dogs.Surley u would rather c a child get food than a ferel animal if not you r a crazy old dude.As for not living in Hua Hin I actually spend quite a bit of time there as I own a house in Hua Hin

yours in just my opinion as its a free world in Australia

Ps I am a animal lover when my racehorses/greyhounds win

How do you know that the lady doesn't donate to children's charities?

You're not one of those people who is so blinkered that you think that people who do good in one area cannot do good in another, as well, are you? That people choose one area to help and ignore the rest of the world's problems?

Wow, amazing that someone can be so narrow minded. Sad, but amazing.

[lindosfan1]

Aussie mark
Again you criticise someone you do not know. How do you know this lady does not spend a similar amount on children or other charities.
Certainly I have help with the dogs but I have also helped with childrens charities. I do not hold the bigotted view that you do about not helping with the charity they prefer. Your comment about being an animal lover when your horses and dogs win, what do you do went they do not, kick them.

Feral dogs
A feral dog is a wild dog will not come near humans nor rely on humans for food. They rarely if ever attack.
Soi dogs which some of you describe as feral dogs are different below is a picture of Dawn trying to give injections, at least one of the dogs was born in the street and never been owned, she neutered and injected them against disease, made healthy then placed in a temple. Dawn does not feed them Monks from the temple do. Yes they bark at strangers.
Domesticated owned dogs are more territorial and will protect the property area they are in I have a dog he barks and is fierce to strangers when introduced he becomes friendly, he is not allowed out on his own to roam the street. If someone entered my property I would hope he would attack them because they would have to have climbed over a 6ft fence.
Education is what is needed but I am afraid that is not happening.
It is not necessary to castrate a dog neutering is far better.[/img]

[DawnHRD]

Sorry, Lindosfan, just to correct you - 2 of those dogs were born to abandoned or unowned mothers in the temple, so are 'feral' according to some members' definitions They were nothing to do with me & I'd never met them until I started neutering & vaccinating at that temple. Only one (the brown one on the bench) was an HRD dog, initially.

[robby hh]

OK someone asked me where I came from and where I am now.

I come from New Zealand and from a rural background where I had for most of my life owned farm working dogs, hunting dogs and pets.

I lived over 3 years in HH where I was extremely aware of the stray dog problem as I walked around a lot and saw the horrible things every day, you dont see them the same when you are driving or riding a motorcy.

I am now close to BKK you will find the reason in the cancer specialist post in health.

I see no one has yet been able to give me a reason or purpose for these things.
Feeding them and cutting them then releasing them is no solution as there are still plenty of bitches left uncut and plenty of dogs to serve them and you will never keep up with the breeding rate.

The released ones will quickly pick up parasites and diseases from any that havent been treated and will soon be back to their scabby origional pest status with their disease carrying, nuisance and danger potential intact.

I find it difficult to understand how some people can put the welfare of stray dogs above that of humans by ignoring or minimising the dangers of these animals.

[lindosfan1]

Robbie
The dogs that are neutered and released have had injections and follow up injections.
Every dog that is neutered male and female means less dogs.
Looking after and caring for dogs does not mean you do not care for humans, but you do realise how often humans do not realise the consequences of there actions when kicking out or abandoning dogs in the street.
The answer as I have said before is education including the staff of the tessaban pound who do not have a clue.
Reading your post I presume you are having treatment in BKK and it works out ok for you.

[margaretcarnes]

Just for Dawns' info - the big bruiser of Mags (who certainly didn't take so easily to injections!) is alive and well. Still happily esconced in his 'hotel'. Very well fed, and getting middle aged spread!
No new offspring of Chans have graced the Sois now for 6 years, which I think is a blessing, and all thanks to HHDR.

[Spitfire]

This is such a great topic, every time, love it!

[Spitfire]

Hi Lindosfan, great picture, very conducive to the image of compassion etc etc and those dogs in the picture could almost be passed off as, well, dogs!

What about the 'blood and bullets' end of the deal, the ones that look like they are from the 'Book of Revelations' that prowl around everywhere and are a lot more common than the picture perfect image protrayed in your picture?
How about the 'hairless wonder' with an attitude problem that hasn't eaten for a few days that you stumble across walking home?

C'mon man, you can't fool me will the conducive, "how wonderful they all are", "oh, they're just sweet little things" image. Give us all some credit man!

Yeah! Great! I admire the angle that is taken by yourself and others, I do, but there is a real and practical view/experience/self-preservation attitude to consider aswell.

That picture is almost like an advert on TV for a dogs home, in other words, devoid of reality!

The truth is often disturbing to many, that's why it's seldom heard.

[redzonerocker]

What about the 'blood and bullets' end of the deal, the ones that look like they are from the 'Book of Revelations' that prowl around everywhere and are a lot more common than the picture perfect image . . . . .
How about the 'hairless wonder' with an attitude problem that hasn't eaten for a few days that you stumble across walking home?

are you talking about the dogs or the average farang tourist on the lash?

[Super Joe]

Hi Lindosfan, great picture, very conducive to the image of compassion etc etc and those dogs in the picture could almost be passed off as, well, dogs!
What about the 'blood and bullets' end of the deal, the ones that look like they are from the 'Book of Revelations' that prowl around everywhere and are a lot more common than the picture perfect image protrayed in your picture?
How about the 'hairless wonder' with an attitude problem that hasn't eaten for a few days that you stumble across walking home?
C'mon man, you can't fool me will the conducive, "how wonderful they all are", "oh, they're just sweet little things" image. Give us all some credit man!
Yeah! Great! I admire the angle that is taken by yourself and others, I do, but there is a real and practical view/experience/self-preservation attitude to consider aswell.
That picture is almost like an advert on TV for a dogs home, in other words, devoid of reality!
The truth is often disturbing to many, that's why it's seldom heard.

I guess you found it far easier to criticise Lindosfan's efforts to put a photo up than take one yourself of the other perspective you want to see.

Someone's made an effort, they deserve credit not criticism, well done Lindos.

SJ

[Super Joe]

Sorry off-topic but cute anyway:



SJ

[komfortablynumb]

I don't see your problem with this ferral dog problem,
We had it in the UK about 600 years ago.
we trained non ferral dogs to chase them,
Then we gaily galloped behind on our non ferral horses. Mounted by the non ferral but suspiciously inbred gentry and there followers.
It was a sport. Of course the kings preffered there sport of hunt the ferrel deer down.
The mamby pamby socialist government banned it a few years ago.
The fox (You knew i was talking about them) population has risen dramaticaly and most people are aware that they now live in towns.
living from the filth in our streets.
Of course the UK is free of rabies at the moment. So that is not a fear.
In my humble opinion i think the biggest fear in the UK is ferrel kids with pitbull types. These status symbols are popular. The ones i have met are mostly more pussy cats than bull eaters.
However children have been killed and disfigured by a few.
Bad owners
Rock on to Dawn.
The LOS problem is a whole lot different.
Whilst i am sure it could be made a sport to hunt them down.
You could use the horses from Hui Hin beach.
Stop them breeding seems an easier and long term problem.
In the 70s & 80s Germany had a problem with rabid foxes apart from culling them. They also left them dead chickens.
Laced with birth control.
It made a dramatic effect.
OMG i have just realised what IMHO means.

Humbly signing off.